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so i was right that Christine would be off to ITV.
As soon as the 1st statement was released i knew she was. |
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ITV's Friday nights would see an improvement if they did: 16 episodes each of Paul O'Grady and Jonathan Ross (in blocks of 8), Life Stories x 12 (in blocks of 6), and Benidorm over the year. They'd certainly get better numbers than shows like Dining Stars, Kitchen Burnout, Al Murray and Moving Wallpaper.
Getting Friday nights sorted won't help ITV on Tuesday or Thursday nights. |
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I cant believe how much discussion is being made over Christine Bleakley and ITV's Breakfast show. Christine is a decent enough presenter but shes definately not irreplacable and not worth the huge amount of money she is going to be paid.
Whatever people say about total reach, a breakast show where you have to be up at 5am each morning is a step down from a 7pm show each night. |
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I cant believe how much discussion is being made over Christine Bleakley and ITV's Breakfast show. Christine is a decent enough presenter but shes definately not irreplacable and not worth the huge amount of money she is going to be paid.
Whatever people say about total reach, a breakast show where you have to be up at 5am each morning is a step down from a 7pm show each night. The BBC can have nobody to blame but themselves though with this situation. They tinkered with a succesful formula by bringing in Chris Evans, that's when it all unravelled. WIthout that, I doubt Adrian would be presenting now for ITV in South Africa, and Christine wouldn't have had this dilemma to follow him. |
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What NEW ZEALAND Watched
Friday 18th June TVONE 0700 Breakfast 195,550 1200 ONE News 145,060 1230 Emmerdale 139,510 1400 Dickinsons Real Deal 99,550 1600 Te Karere 77,060 1800 ONE News 652,990 1900 Close Up 437,220 1930 Coronation Street 427,600 2030 Dancing on Ice 287,970 TV2 1700 The Nanny 89,670 1830 My Wife & Kids 140,460 1900 Shortland Street 513,400 1930 Two & A Half Men 385,860 2000 Gary Unmarried 312,690 2030 What a Girl Wants 391,010 2235 Chuck 188,620 TV3 1610 Sticky TV 102,050 1630 Entertainment Tonight 104,090 1730 Home & Away 303,600 1800 3 News 363,870 1930 Americas Next Top Model 259,820 2030 Glee 310,150 2130 Radiradirah 223,610 C4 1900 Family Guy 63,600 1930 Ninja Warrior 61,220 2000 Pimp My Ride 57,900 2030 24 54,370 2130 Americas Want Wanted 61,520 PRIME 1700 Deal or No Deal 142,250 1730 Prime NEWS 188,220 1930 WW2 in Colour 123,960 2035 Father Ted 139,880 2110 Black Books 99,460 Maori 2200 Hakinakina 82,630 SKYSPORT1 1830 Rugby 164,240 SKY Network: 26.6% TV ONE: 25.9% TV2: 17.5% TV3: 14.6% PRIME: 5.8% Other TV Channels: 3.9% C4: 2.8% Maori TV: 2.7% |
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They are a couple of big names for a Breakfast show, clearly ITV have a lot of ambition for the project. And just like the deal with Adrian who has the football to fall back on, the deal includes prime time entertainment shows.
I keep hearing about these primetime shows, Ill wait to see what she gets lumbered with first. |
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Yeah, but at the same time what a waste. Investing all that money in two big names and only benefiting on one night of the week.
Getting Friday nights sorted won't help ITV on Tuesday or Thursday nights. "Christine will also become a familiar face to ITV peak-time audiences. We can't wait to get started." You'd assume all the names above will do other stuff with ITV. And theoretically, audiences increase on Friday's, ad revenue increases, bigger money = better programmes. Quote:
1230 Emmerdale 139,510
1930 Coronation Street 427,600 1730 Home & Away 303,600 |
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They are a couple of big names for a Breakfast show, clearly ITV have a lot of ambition for the project. And just like the deal with Adrian who has the football to fall back on, the deal includes prime time entertainment shows.
The BBC can have nobody to blame but themselves though with this situation. They tinkered with a succesful formula by bringing in Chris Evans, that's when it all unravelled. WIthout that, I doubt Adrian would be presenting now for ITV in South Africa, and Christine wouldn't have had this dilemma to follow him. Not that i dislike him at all!
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Thanks Gary.
Dancing on Ice doesn't seem to be doing too well over there. |
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Yeah, but at the same time what a waste. Investing all that money in two big names and only benefiting on one night of the week.
The £2m reported deal for Jonathan Ross could include production costs. If that's the case, then it wouldn't be an expensive show - cheaper than most 9pm entertainment shows these days. Quote:
Getting Friday nights sorted won't help ITV on Tuesday or Thursday nights.
I know, but it's a step forward in the right direction. What's the alternative? Try and persuade Jonathan Ross to do a weeknight show at 10:35pm? I doubt he'd want to do that.
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Saturday June 19 TVONE 1550 ANZ Netball 119,110 1730 World Cup Highlights 249,410 1800 One News 650,220 1900 National Bank Country Calendar 631,860 1930 The F W orld 212,400 TV2 0920 Cool Kids Cooking 146,760 1200 Shock Treatment 111,180 1600 Jones 107,070 1635 Americas Funniest HV 160,310 1707 The Bill Engvall Show 182,660 1735 According to Jim 222,660 1800 Fresh Prince 177,490 1930 Toy Story 359,090 TV3 1700 Ooutsoors 217,060 1730 Fishing Show 303,890 1800 3 NEWS 354,810 1900 The Simpsons 179,430 1930 Grand Dsigns 267,540 2030 Independence Day 197,730 C4 1800 NZ Top 40 33,310 1900 Simple Life 31,760 PRIME 1600 Bondi Rescue 66,530 1730 Prime News 118,850 1930 Perfect Disaster 78,460 2035 Rugby Pre Game 228,950 2100 Rugby 347,970 2250 Rugby Post Game 255,130 SKYSPORT1 1830 Rugby Pre 93,020 1935 Rugby 442,950 2115 Rugby Post 250,520 2155 Rugby Pre 116,220 2205 Rugby 93,970 SKYSPORT 2 0630 World Cup Live 72,850 0820 WorldCup Post 87,860 0835 World of Athletics 29,960 2130 NRL 38,320 2330 World Cup Live 3,260 SKY Network: 34.7% TV ONE: 19.5% TV2: 18% TV3: 12.8% PRIME: 8.4% Other TV Channels: 3.6% C4: 1.9% Maori TV: 0.6% |
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The BBC can have nobody to blame but themselves though with this situation.
They tinkered with a succesful formula by bringing in Chris Evans, that's when it all unravelled. WIthout that, I doubt Adrian would be presenting now for ITV in South Africa, and Christine wouldn't have had this dilemma to follow him. |
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Breakfast Television is virtually identical throughout the world, in America you have Today, The Early Show and Good Morning America and in Australia you have Sunrise and Today. When I was in Sydney a few weeks ago, I watched both and I preferred Sunrise to Today due to the presenters who could present serious topics like the Cumbria shooting but also have fun.
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You're right, it won't - but:
Interesting - don't they get EastEnders? Corrie seems to be consistently top 10. Neighbours struggling between 90,000-125,000 |
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With Paul O'Grady's health problems, I don't think he'd want to do 4-5 nights per week anyway.
The £2m reported deal for Jonathan Ross could include production costs. If that's the case, then it wouldn't be an expensive show - cheaper than most 9pm entertainment shows these days. I know, but it's a step forward in the right direction. What's the alternative? Try and persuade Jonathan Ross to do a weeknight show at 10:35pm? I doubt he'd want to do that. So if 71 Degrees North takes off in the Summer they'll have that, The Biggest Loser and Benidorm on another night, so that's 22 weeks covered. A weekly version of Hell's Kitchen makes sense but I don't know if they'd want that. Then they'd have 30 weeks covered, so with 4 weeks of IAC/BGT, 2 weeks for Christmas/New Year and that awkward 2 weeks between IAC and Christmas where they can't launch anything, they'll only have 14 weeks left. Comedy Rocks may well take up some of them, so they'd only need one more show (maybe none if that Davina thing does decently) and another night will be covered. So progress is being made. |
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you seem to be under the illusion that the BBC were in desperate way to keep him and are now in crisis. Its blatantly obvious they wanted rid of him, he had threatened for months he would move if Chris Evans got friday, did they care? No! and has the ratings have shown neither have the viewers.
They now have to rebuild a succesful formula around 3 new presenters. In my view, the BBC should have waited to get Christine's contract sorted out before hiring Jason Manford, as he was appointed clearly with working alongside her in mind. |
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Update: EastEnders was on PRIME which is the NZ version of FIVE during 2008. It not listed anymore
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Alright calm down. It is my belief that the BBC would rather have both Adrian & Christine on board than not. When the Chris Evans thing was first rumoured, they were offering Adrian lots to keep him sweet. He was highly regarded at the BBC.
. Their not stupid they knew damn well what they were doing, when they released the press release about Evans while Chiles was on holiday |
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Breakfast Television is virtually identical throughout the world, in America you have Today, The Early Show and Good Morning America and in Australia you have Sunrise and Today. When I was in Sydney a few weeks ago, I watched both and I preferred Sunrise to Today due to the presenters who could present serious topics like the Cumbria shooting but also have fun.
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It was blatantly obvious from the tone of his media dealingsthat the one show was his priority and that he would leave the BBC and that any sweetners would change that.
Their not stupid they knew damn well what they were doing, when they released the press release about Evans while Chiles was on holiday Having lost Adrian, they started to do all they could to keep Christine, and build the show around her, increasing the contract, primetime, the olympics etc. They had a really succesful partnership, no way have they ended up with a situation that they actually wanted. |
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They now have to rebuild a succesful formula around 3 new presenters.
Yeah a succesfull formula it took a weekend to get right after Chiles departure.
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Nope, keep trying. I don't accept that the BBC cleverly engineered this turn of events. Why would they risk letting him go, knowing the connection that he had with Christine ?
. I said they obviously weren't really fussed. If they really valued him, they wouldnt have dropped him from part of a show he was in from its inception. After numerous threats he would leave if it was done. Quote:
They had a really succesful format,
Im glad that the success of the one show is now being acknowledged by the ITV fans
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Im glad that the success of the one show is now being acknowledged by the ITV fans ![]() Unfortunate then that you, (I'm guessing as a BBC fan boy), seek then to rubbish the previous presenters on the basis that they have now left the broadcaster of your preference, and pretend the situation was of the BBC's own creation.
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Unfortunate then that you, (I'm guessing as a BBC fan boy), seek then to rubbish the previous presenters on the basis that they have now left the broadcaster of your preference, and pretend the situation was of the BBC's own creation.
![]() Christine is ten a penny imho. What I keeping trying to say to you is that it really doesnt matter who hosts it as long as they have an ok relationship then it wont harm the show. Chiles departure was supposed to see a ratings fall to the one show, it never materialised. Their great chemistry was supposed to be the lifeblood of the show. It wasn't. The vast majority of the one shows audience is inherited from its big regional news lead in, while the BBC continues to get stronger in the regions at ITVs expense then I dont see how the one show will get weaker as long as the core of the One show remains the same. |
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