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The Ratings Thread (Part 9)
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sstripling
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“I thought ITV HD only started before the WorldCup? ”

ITV1 HD has only been avaliable since April ( i.e a simicast of all day) but ITV HD has been avaliable for over a year on Fresat before it went full time on all platforms.
D.M.N.
24-06-2010
As a FYI, if we beat Germany we will be facing Argentina or Mexico in the Quarter Finals.
derek500
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by sstripling:
“ITV1 HD has only been avaliable since April ( i.e a simicast of all day) but ITV HD has been avaliable for over a year on Fresat before it went full time on all platforms.”

Two years in fact. Euro 2008 was on ITV HD, and from March 2009, Sky HD boxes were able to view it through 'other channels'
PJMillar
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“ at the 15.1m and 80% peak!

At 4.30pm on a Wednesday!

I thought a 14m peak was sensational - now we learn it was 15.1m! Plus all the millions who watched at work or in pubs - the "outside home" viewing yesterday would have surely surpassed that for a prime time event!

Looks like yesterday's could have been the most-watched game so far in terms of total viewers.

I haven't got the shares for the first two games to hand - how does the 78% match average compare with what ITV1/HD got for their matches? About the same, I assume...? ”

I think if ITV had had the game in the afternoon, we would've seen an 80% peak too.

It's England remember, and people will tune in whatever channel it is on, apart from you presumably - probably the only England fan in the country to be watching BBC Two's highlights show with Colin Murray for England's first two group games.
Brekkie
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Jake Humphrey is confirming via Twitter than the entire F1 race from 12:10 to 15:20 will be on BBC Two.”

Typical BBC - why publish an alternative schedule they were never going to stick too.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The Tennis peaked with 4.2m (17.2%) - below is a breakdown from 17:00 - before that coverage was below 1m...

17:00 - 1.3m (8.6%)
17:15 - 1.5m (10.3%)
17:30 - 1.7m (12.1%)
17:45 - 1.9m (12.7%)
18:00 - 2.0m (12.4%)
18:15 - 1.9m (11.6%)
18:30 - 2.1m (12.5%)
18:45 - 2.3m (13.3%)
19:00 - 2.3m (12.6%)
19:15 - 2.3m (11.7%)
19:30 - 2.2m (10.7%)
19:45 - 2.5m (12.1%)
20:00 - 3.0m (14.1%)
20:15 - 3.6m (16.8%)
20:30 - 3.7m (16.4%)
20:45 - 3.8m (16.4%)
21:00 - 4.2m (17.2%)
21:15 - 2.8m (11.9%)

Very good (and well deserved) peak in my view.”

Absolutely agree - can't wait for the return today (though expecting an anti-climax and it to be over very quickly!)

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Thats great for BB considering Wimbledon went over the time intended and clashed with BB as well as TWC Germany game clashed with BB, it managed to increase its rating from its previous few days.”

I was thinking BB might go sub-2m last night with Wimbledon especially, but I guess they got lucky with that finishing at 9.10pm.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“ at the 15.1m and 80% peak!

At 4.30pm on a Wednesday!

I thought a 14m peak was sensational - now we learn it was 15.1m! Plus all the millions who watched at work or in pubs - the "outside home" viewing yesterday would have surely surpassed that for a prime time event!”

Was there an extra tense game of Deal or No Deal on or something?
Brekkie
24-06-2010
OK, normal service is resumed with C4 and Big Brother scheduling in a couple of weeks - but they've really surpassed themselves this time, putting the show at 8pm on Monday (against EE/Corrie), Wednesday (against a World Cup semi) and Thursday (against half of Eastenders/Emmerdale/Corrie). All to make way for The Sex Education Show at 9pm and Underage and Having Sex at 10pm. Can definately see BB going sub-2m that week then.

Also Friday's second show is extended by 15 minutes, running 10.35pm-11.25pm. Almost certainly new HMs - though rare for them to actually put extended shows in the schedules. In the past they've usually been extended at the last minute.
Leeah
24-06-2010
If England are too do well then it needs top be shown on good old BBC. ITV is a curse.
D.M.N.
24-06-2010
BBC's online schedule has updated - this is now the revised schedule for Sunday.

12:10 - EastEnders Omnibus
14:00 - World Cup Live
17:10 - Antiques Roadshow (R)
17:40 - BBC News
18:00 - Countryfile
19:00 - World Cup Live
22:00 - BBC News
22:25 - Impressions Show (R)

Repeats straight after footy in case of Extra Time and Penalties.
open_ended
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“I think if ITV had had the game in the afternoon, we would've seen an 80% peak too.

It's England remember, and people will tune in whatever channel it is on, apart from you presumably - probably the only England fan in the country to be watching BBC Two's highlights show with Colin Murray for England's first two group games. ”

Events will always reach a bigger audience on the bbc than on itv1 it's a well known fact. BBC1 is the bastion as far as TV in this country goes.
open_ended
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“OK, normal service is resumed with C4 and Big Brother scheduling in a couple of weeks - but they've really surpassed themselves this time, putting the show at 8pm on Monday (against EE/Corrie), Wednesday (against a World Cup semi) and Thursday (against half of Eastenders/Emmerdale/Corrie). All to make way for The Sex Education Show at 9pm and Underage and Having Sex at 10pm. Can definately see BB going sub-2m that week then.

Also Friday's second show is extended by 15 minutes, running 10.35pm-11.25pm. Almost certainly new HMs - though rare for them to actually put extended shows in the schedules. In the past they've usually been extended at the last minute.”

That's ridiculous putting it on against Corrie and EE.
derek500
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by open_ended:
“Events will always reach a bigger audience on the bbc than on itv1 it's a well known fact. BBC1 is the bastion as far as TV in this country goes.”

That theory can't be proved.
open_ended
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by derek500:
“That theory can't be proved.”

About the events reaching a higher audience? If so you might have a point. But if you're debating whether BBC1 is considered the top channel in this country I think that's conclusive.

There's evidence that supports the events theory but I will admit most of that evidence isn't world cup/football related.
newkid30
24-06-2010
I don't even watch BB, but it seems silly to schedule some youth sex week during the World Cup and to make BB suffer as a result.
BB seems to be stabilising at a decent rate where it could even grow after World Cup etc, this will dent it's average hugely and possibly loose viewers altogether.
That's not really giving the show a chance at maintaining an audience.
D.M.N.
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by derek500:
“That theory can't be proved.”

- Look at World Cup finals. Simulcast on BBC and ITV. BBC won.
- Diana's Funeral. Same ratings result.

Other national importance events have exactly the same result.
Desert Rat
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“I don't even watch BB, but it seems silly to schedule some youth sex week during the World Cup and to make BB suffer as a result.
BB seems to be stabilising at a decent rate where it could even grow after World Cup etc, this will dent it's average hugely and possibly loose viewers altogether.
That's not really giving the show a chance at maintaining an audience.”

Aside from the fact the best part of BBs audience follows it around the schedules and when it does move about, the following week always bounces back.
Pizzatheaction
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It's quite likely a lot of it will be on BBC2 as I'm sure they won't just have 15 mins build up for the football.”

Why on earth would there need to be any more than five minutes of build-up for the football?!

Anthems and a look at the teams is all we need. Obviously, we're used to lots of bulid-up these days because broadcasters usually want to fill as much airtime as possible, in order to make the most of the cash they've paid for the rights, but in a situation like next Sunday, it won't be needed.
D.M.N.
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Why on earth would there need to be any more than five minutes of build-up for the football?!

Anthems and a look at the teams is all we need. Obviously, we're used to lots of bulid-up these days because broadcasters usually want to fill as much airtime as possible, in order to make the most of the cash they've paid for the rights, but in a situation like next Sunday, it won't be needed.”

Well they've got an hour buildup on BBC1, with the F1 on BBC2.
derek500
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“- Look at World Cup finals. Simulcast on BBC and ITV. BBC won.
- Diana's Funeral. Same ratings result.

Other national importance events have exactly the same result.”

That's if they're shown on both channels simultaneously.

Unless you can turn back the clock and put yesterday's match on ITV, there is no way you can say if it would have got more or less viewers.
Pizzatheaction
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Colin Murray confirmed on the highlights show that the coverage of England v Germany begins at 2pm on BBC1.”

Oh dear! Overkill.
newkid30
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Desert Rat:
“Aside from the fact the best part of BBs audience follows it around the schedules and when it does move about, the following week always bounces back.”

You're just being obtuse, if the fans followed it around there would be no bouncing back to do.
Desert Rat
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“- Look at World Cup finals. Simulcast on BBC and ITV. BBC won.
- Diana's Funeral. Same ratings result.

Other national importance events have exactly the same result.”

BBC is seen as the serious channel thats why. If, for example, Eurovision or X Factor Final was simulcast on BBC and ITV, I think ITV would win hands down. Could also be lack of adverts.

Originally Posted by newkid30:
“You're just being obtuse, if the fans followed it around there would be no bouncing back to do. ”

Which is why I said "the best part".
Brekkie
24-06-2010
Extreme Wimbledon: Endurance Edition set to resume on BBC1 in about 15 minutes.
Pizzatheaction
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Jake Humphrey is confirming via Twitter than the entire F1 race from 12:10 to 15:20 will be on BBC Two.”

It gets worse!
newkid30
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“It gets worse! ”

Good God they can't win, if they change channels half way through coverage there will be war.
sn_22
24-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“It gets worse! ”

There's no way they were ever going to run an England World Cup match with just 15 minutes build-up. A discussion of team selection, some statistical analysis and a couple of atmospheric VT's takes half an hour, and the players tend to leave the tunnel way before the hour anyway. The build-up also helps to strap in the viewers somewhat and build an audience before the game begins.

They've done the right thing moving the F1 to BBC Two in its entirity. Both events can now take up as much space as they like without impinging on eachother. Simple solution.
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