Are we expecting ratings to come in later or on Monday?
The Ratings Thread (Part 9)
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Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Are we expecting ratings to come in later or on Monday?”
“Are we expecting ratings to come in later or on Monday?”
Hopefully later.
I wonder what the odds are that Doctor Who will start as billed at 6.05 on BBC1 tonight. I think I will eat 5 hats if this does happen.
Murray is due on court about 5.30-ish I think!
Murray is due on court about 5.30-ish I think!
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Far from it. During CBB7, it had four 8pm starts - Wednesday of week 1 which was the lowest rated show of the week (apart from Saturday), Sundays of week 3 and 4 which rated badly particularly the latter which had just 2.9m (worst rated non-Saturday show of series), Monday of week 3 which was the 2nd lowest rated show of the series.
In BB10, 8pm Sunday week 6 episode was the lowest rated Sunday show of the series. There were 8pm Tuesday episodes in the last week of BB9 and BB10 which were in line with their Tuesday series average, but that was because they were pre-eviction shows. Would've rated badly if they were just normal HL shows and facing the soaps (like the upcoming episodes).
Two 8pm shows of CBB6 - final Wednesday of series which was one of the worst rated weeknight shows of the series. The final started at 8pm which was the lowest rated 8/9pm Friday show of the series. The 8pm Wednesday episode in BB8 was the 3rd worst rated Wednesday episode of the series. Basically 8pm starts and BB don't go well together!”
“Far from it. During CBB7, it had four 8pm starts - Wednesday of week 1 which was the lowest rated show of the week (apart from Saturday), Sundays of week 3 and 4 which rated badly particularly the latter which had just 2.9m (worst rated non-Saturday show of series), Monday of week 3 which was the 2nd lowest rated show of the series.
In BB10, 8pm Sunday week 6 episode was the lowest rated Sunday show of the series. There were 8pm Tuesday episodes in the last week of BB9 and BB10 which were in line with their Tuesday series average, but that was because they were pre-eviction shows. Would've rated badly if they were just normal HL shows and facing the soaps (like the upcoming episodes).
Two 8pm shows of CBB6 - final Wednesday of series which was one of the worst rated weeknight shows of the series. The final started at 8pm which was the lowest rated 8/9pm Friday show of the series. The 8pm Wednesday episode in BB8 was the 3rd worst rated Wednesday episode of the series. Basically 8pm starts and BB don't go well together!”
But they're never significantly down which is what I'm getting at. Knocking 0.3m off the average isn't going to put them into crisis talks for a show thats been axed anyway.
BB8 and 9 are somewhat irrelevant- the new ratings climate for BB comes after CBB6 where its been knocked down to its core audience (CBB7 aside).
Originally Posted by Desert Rat:
“But they're never significantly down which is what I'm getting at. Knocking 0.3m off the average isn't going to put them into crisis talks for a show thats been axed anyway.”
“But they're never significantly down which is what I'm getting at. Knocking 0.3m off the average isn't going to put them into crisis talks for a show thats been axed anyway.”
No one's talking about "crisis talks" due to 8pm starts. But one of your points in your previous post was "traditionally BB rates just as well at 8pm as it does at 9pm" which isn't the case from past figures.
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“BB8 and 9 are somewhat irrelevant- the new ratings climate for BB comes after CBB6 where its been knocked down to its core audience (CBB7 aside).”
“BB8 and 9 are somewhat irrelevant- the new ratings climate for BB comes after CBB6 where its been knocked down to its core audience (CBB7 aside).”
I only brought up the BB8/BB9 figures because you said "traditionally", so I thought you were also referring to older series like BB8 and BB9.
Looking at CBB6, the 8pm Wednesday episode was down 18% from the previous two Wednesday episodes which aired at 9pm. That's a big week-on-week fall - probably only 2nd to the fall seen between launch and following week.
In BB10, the Week 7 Sunday episode at 9pm was up 28% from the previous Sunday episode which aired at 8pm. Once again, the change in timeslot contributed to a major difference of about a quarter of the audience size. The 8pm Tuesday show in the final week of BB10 held up better, but that ought to be expected as it was a pre-eviction show just a few days before the final which didn't air against any soaps (unlike the upcoming few episodes).
Originally Posted by Desert Rat:
“But they're never significantly down which is what I'm getting at. Knocking 0.3m off the average isn't going to put them into crisis talks for a show thats been axed anyway.
BB8 and 9 are somewhat irrelevant- the new ratings climate for BB comes after CBB6 where its been knocked down to its core audience (CBB7 aside).”
“But they're never significantly down which is what I'm getting at. Knocking 0.3m off the average isn't going to put them into crisis talks for a show thats been axed anyway.
BB8 and 9 are somewhat irrelevant- the new ratings climate for BB comes after CBB6 where its been knocked down to its core audience (CBB7 aside).”
We can tell that BB as a whole series is not completely tired yet as CBB7 proved, it was rating very well even under bad circmstances, when we relate to thinks now, everyone always say (except CBB7)... we all know that it can still be a success, it was defenitley down to the celebrities in January, and I think Vinnie Jones being in there was a big ratings puller... average was 3.7m (best since BB8), and the final acchieved 4.7m. That week (Indian Summer?) didnt affect CBB7 much BUT BB11 will be afgfected i think by the 8pm slots.
Friday 25th June 2010
BBC One
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 4.5m (30.1%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)
ITV1 + HD
19:00 - World Cup Live: 5.4m (28.7%)
* exc HD: 5.0m (26.6%)
Everything else under 3.9m. Only 20m watching in primetime last night based on the EastEnders number.
BBC One
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 4.5m (30.1%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)
ITV1 + HD
19:00 - World Cup Live: 5.4m (28.7%)
* exc HD: 5.0m (26.6%)
Everything else under 3.9m. Only 20m watching in primetime last night based on the EastEnders number.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wonder what the odds are that Doctor Who will start as billed at 6.05 on BBC1 tonight. I think I will eat 5 hats if this does happen.
Murray is due on court about 5.30-ish I think!”
“I wonder what the odds are that Doctor Who will start as billed at 6.05 on BBC1 tonight. I think I will eat 5 hats if this does happen.
Murray is due on court about 5.30-ish I think!”
I do think Doctor Who is one show they wouldn't move for Murray due to the fallout it would cause (especially on a day like today when many record it, and EPG's are a bit hit and miss whether they handle the schedule change), but watch me proved wrong tonight.
I take it this is the first time Doctor Who has run into Wimbledon fortnight since it's return.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“No one's talking about "crisis talks" due to 8pm starts. But one of your points in your previous post was "traditionally BB rates just as well at 8pm as it does at 9pm" which isn't the case from past figures.
I only brought up the BB8/BB9 figures because you said "traditionally", so I thought you were also referring to older series like BB8 and BB9.
Looking at CBB6, the 8pm Wednesday episode was down 18% from the previous two Wednesday episodes which aired at 9pm. That's a big week-on-week fall - probably only 2nd to the fall seen between launch and following week.
In BB10, the Week 7 Sunday episode at 9pm was up 28% from the previous Sunday episode which aired at 8pm. Once again, the change in timeslot contributed to a major difference of about a quarter of the audience size. The 8pm Tuesday show in the final week of BB10 held up better, but that ought to be expected as it was a pre-eviction show just a few days before the final which didn't air against any soaps (unlike the upcoming few episodes).”
“No one's talking about "crisis talks" due to 8pm starts. But one of your points in your previous post was "traditionally BB rates just as well at 8pm as it does at 9pm" which isn't the case from past figures.
I only brought up the BB8/BB9 figures because you said "traditionally", so I thought you were also referring to older series like BB8 and BB9.
Looking at CBB6, the 8pm Wednesday episode was down 18% from the previous two Wednesday episodes which aired at 9pm. That's a big week-on-week fall - probably only 2nd to the fall seen between launch and following week.
In BB10, the Week 7 Sunday episode at 9pm was up 28% from the previous Sunday episode which aired at 8pm. Once again, the change in timeslot contributed to a major difference of about a quarter of the audience size. The 8pm Tuesday show in the final week of BB10 held up better, but that ought to be expected as it was a pre-eviction show just a few days before the final which didn't air against any soaps (unlike the upcoming few episodes).”
But also in BB10, the week prior to the 8pm Sunday episode was only 0.3m up, and going back another week just 0.1m up on the 8pm episode. Week 7 is the week after the ex housemates returning and where the new people went in, and as a result the audience grew anyway, nothing to do with the 8pm/9pm slots.
Originally Posted by Desert Rat:
“But also in BB10, the week prior to the 8pm Sunday episode was only 0.3m up, and going back another week just 0.1m up on the 8pm episode. Week 7 is the week after the ex housemates returning and where the new people went in, and as a result the audience grew anyway, nothing to do with the 8pm/9pm slots.”
“But also in BB10, the week prior to the 8pm Sunday episode was only 0.3m up, and going back another week just 0.1m up on the 8pm episode. Week 7 is the week after the ex housemates returning and where the new people went in, and as a result the audience grew anyway, nothing to do with the 8pm/9pm slots.”
At those low levels, a 0.3m difference is 15% of the audience, which is quite a lot imo. But also you have to factor in the fact that particular 8pm episode didn't face any soaps on BBC1 and ITV1, which will be happening on Monday and Thursday of the week after next.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I do think Doctor Who is one show they wouldn't move for Murray due to the fallout it would cause (especially on a day like today when many record it, and EPG's are a bit hit and miss whether they handle the schedule change), but watch me proved wrong tonight.”
“I do think Doctor Who is one show they wouldn't move for Murray due to the fallout it would cause (especially on a day like today when many record it, and EPG's are a bit hit and miss whether they handle the schedule change), but watch me proved wrong tonight.”
The BBC are quite good when it comes to keeping the EPG up to date - they were on the ball the night David Cameron became PM pushing EastEnders out of its usual timeslot. Hopefully they'll be the same again tonight as I'm one of those who will be recording Doctor Who.
BB10 didn't rate well full stop though, and in the past though I think it's been on Mondays once or twice generally if it's been at 8pm it's been in less competitive slots usually on a Sunday or Wednesday.
If - and it is still a big if - England end up in that semi-final on the Wednesday Big Brother will almost certainly record it's lowest audience ever.
If - and it is still a big if - England end up in that semi-final on the Wednesday Big Brother will almost certainly record it's lowest audience ever.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I do think Doctor Who is one show they wouldn't move for Murray due to the fallout it would cause (especially on a day like today when many record it, and EPG's are a bit hit and miss whether they handle the schedule change), but watch me proved wrong tonight.
I take it this is the first time Doctor Who has run into Wimbledon fortnight since it's return.”
“I do think Doctor Who is one show they wouldn't move for Murray due to the fallout it would cause (especially on a day like today when many record it, and EPG's are a bit hit and miss whether they handle the schedule change), but watch me proved wrong tonight.
I take it this is the first time Doctor Who has run into Wimbledon fortnight since it's return.”
DR Who Series 2,3 and 4 all ran into Wimbledon fortnight, although I don't think they clashed with Murray games.
Originally Posted by dave01:
“DR Who Series 2,3 and 4 all ran into Wimbledon fortnight, although I don't think they clashed with Murray games.”
“DR Who Series 2,3 and 4 all ran into Wimbledon fortnight, although I don't think they clashed with Murray games.”
In 2006, Doctor Who got 7.7m (overnights) against a Murray v Roddick match on BBC2 which had 3.2m at the same time (19:00-19:45).
That was the evening when Doctor Who followed on from England v Portugal.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 25th June 2010
BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)”
“Friday 25th June 2010
BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)”
On the soaps thread, we thought it was a bit weird that EE was starting at 8pm as all other episodes during the World Cup have begun at 7pm. It could've got a million more an hour earlier.
Centre court at Wimbledon scheduled to start at 1pm, but it's middle Saturday so first Sue Barker has to introduce the crowd.(
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Looks like a Murray/Doctor clash is evitable even if all the matches are straight set victories. Perhaps Murray will move to BBC2 at Dr Who time but swap channels with the Total Wipeout repeat if the match is still on at 7pm.
)Looks like a Murray/Doctor clash is evitable even if all the matches are straight set victories. Perhaps Murray will move to BBC2 at Dr Who time but swap channels with the Total Wipeout repeat if the match is still on at 7pm.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Wonder if C4 had a good night... with BB and The IT Crowd (which was getting a lot of promotion).”
“Wonder if C4 had a good night... with BB and The IT Crowd (which was getting a lot of promotion).”
Big Brother probably around 2.6m, The IT Crowd most likely 1.5m.
Originally Posted by dave01:
“DR Who Series 2,3 and 4 all ran into Wimbledon fortnight, although I don't think they clashed with Murray games.”
“DR Who Series 2,3 and 4 all ran into Wimbledon fortnight, although I don't think they clashed with Murray games.”
In 2008, Murray was left on BBC One but it finished by 18:15 (the news was moved to BBC Two and a comedy repeat dropped), well clear of Doctor Who's 19:10 start time. It'll be very interesting to see what they do later today...
On Monday I'm sure they have an eye on a Murray match replacing the early part of the peak schedule given its all repeats...
Originally Posted by rzt:
“On the soaps thread, we thought it was a bit weird that EE was starting at 8pm as all other episodes during the World Cup have begun at 7pm. It could've got a million more an hour earlier.”
“On the soaps thread, we thought it was a bit weird that EE was starting at 8pm as all other episodes during the World Cup have begun at 7pm. It could've got a million more an hour earlier.”
Don't quote this as fact as i am not 100% sure but I have Eastenders set to record on Sky+ at home and I though the recording started straight after Hollyoaks first look at 7:30pm. That was BBC1 Scotland so don't know if it would differ in other regions.
EDIT: I've just checked at EE was on at 7:30pm in Scotland as River City got the 8pm slot.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“BB10 didn't rate well full stop though, and in the past though I think it's been on Mondays once or twice generally if it's been at 8pm it's been in less competitive slots usually on a Sunday or Wednesday.
If - and it is still a big if - England end up in that semi-final on the Wednesday Big Brother will almost certainly record it's lowest audience ever.”
“BB10 didn't rate well full stop though, and in the past though I think it's been on Mondays once or twice generally if it's been at 8pm it's been in less competitive slots usually on a Sunday or Wednesday.
If - and it is still a big if - England end up in that semi-final on the Wednesday Big Brother will almost certainly record it's lowest audience ever.”
This year isn't rating that well either, its only hovering above the BB10 average atm, especially the latter half.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“In 2006, Doctor Who got 7.7m (overnights) against a Murray v Roddick match on BBC2 which had 3.2m at the same time (19:00-19:45).
That was the evening when Doctor Who followed on from England v Portugal.”
“In 2006, Doctor Who got 7.7m (overnights) against a Murray v Roddick match on BBC2 which had 3.2m at the same time (19:00-19:45).
That was the evening when Doctor Who followed on from England v Portugal.”
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“In 2008, Murray was left on BBC One but it finished by 18:15 (the news was moved to BBC Two and a comedy repeat dropped), well clear of Doctor Who's 19:10 start time. It'll be very interesting to see what they do later today...
On Monday I'm sure they have an eye on a Murray match replacing the early part of the peak schedule given its all repeats...”
“In 2008, Murray was left on BBC One but it finished by 18:15 (the news was moved to BBC Two and a comedy repeat dropped), well clear of Doctor Who's 19:10 start time. It'll be very interesting to see what they do later today...
On Monday I'm sure they have an eye on a Murray match replacing the early part of the peak schedule given its all repeats...”
Thanks, That's interesting. DR Who held up well in 2006 but I guess Murray is a bigger name now.
I reckon this afternoon Murray will head over to BBC2 at 5:15pm as billed in the tv-guides. It's just too much effort to have to reschedule BBC1, and then have to fit repeats onto BBC HD before DR Who and then BBC3 before Dr Who Confidential starts. Also DR Who's 2 million fans that record the show will be screwed if they have older recording devices without fast updating EPGs.
Originally Posted by jonnyblack:
“Don't quote this as fact as i am not 100% sure but I have Eastenders set to record on Sky+ at home and I though the recording started straight after Hollyoaks first look at 7:30pm. That was BBC1 Scotland so don't know if it would differ in other regions.
EDIT: I've just checked at EE was on at 7:30pm in Scotland as River City got the 8pm slot.”
“Don't quote this as fact as i am not 100% sure but I have Eastenders set to record on Sky+ at home and I though the recording started straight after Hollyoaks first look at 7:30pm. That was BBC1 Scotland so don't know if it would differ in other regions.
EDIT: I've just checked at EE was on at 7:30pm in Scotland as River City got the 8pm slot.”
Guess that means Eastenders could of got 6 million then if Scottish viewers were included.
Still anticipating the C4 ratings.... 
And tonight BB is on at 10-11:10pm, the ratings will be awful, they are already low on Saturdays but moving it to 10pm and then add an extra 10 mins on? Wow.
And tonight BB is on at 10-11:10pm, the ratings will be awful, they are already low on Saturdays but moving it to 10pm and then add an extra 10 mins on? Wow.
DS has updated, ratings included in below post...
Friday 25th June 2010
BBC One
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 4.5m (30.1%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)
20:30 - Inspector George Gently: 3.08m (14.5%)
22:35 - Friday Night with Jonathan Ross: 3.16m (21.3%)
BBC Two
20:00 - Today at Wimbledon: 880,000 (4.4%)
21:00 - Are You Having A Laugh? TV and Disability: 1.27m (6.1%)
22:00 - Glastonbury 2010: 940,000 (4.8%)
ITV1 + HD
19:00 - World Cup Live: 5.4m (28.7%)
* exc HD: 4.96m (26.6%)
* peak: 6.4m (31.5%) @ 20:45 [exc HD]
21:30 - James Corden's World Cup Live: 2.36m (11.3%)
Channel 4
21:00 - Big Brother: 2.16m (10.3%)
22:35 - Big Brother: 2.02m (12.1%)
Five
20:00 - Extraordinary People: 570,000 (2.9%)
21:00 - The Mentalist: 1.55m (7.4%)
22:00 - CSI: NY: 871,000 (4.7%)
ITV3
19:00 - Agatha Christie's Marple: 726,000 (4%)
21:00 - Lewis: 917,000 (4.6%)
ITV4
22:00 - James Corden's World Cup Live: 415,000 (2.1%)
Poor for Big Brother, C4 really should have kept it as one entire show.
Friday 25th June 2010
BBC One
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 4.5m (30.1%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 5.7m (28.4%)
20:30 - Inspector George Gently: 3.08m (14.5%)
22:35 - Friday Night with Jonathan Ross: 3.16m (21.3%)
BBC Two
20:00 - Today at Wimbledon: 880,000 (4.4%)
21:00 - Are You Having A Laugh? TV and Disability: 1.27m (6.1%)
22:00 - Glastonbury 2010: 940,000 (4.8%)
ITV1 + HD
19:00 - World Cup Live: 5.4m (28.7%)
* exc HD: 4.96m (26.6%)
* peak: 6.4m (31.5%) @ 20:45 [exc HD]
21:30 - James Corden's World Cup Live: 2.36m (11.3%)
Channel 4
21:00 - Big Brother: 2.16m (10.3%)
22:35 - Big Brother: 2.02m (12.1%)
Five
20:00 - Extraordinary People: 570,000 (2.9%)
21:00 - The Mentalist: 1.55m (7.4%)
22:00 - CSI: NY: 871,000 (4.7%)
ITV3
19:00 - Agatha Christie's Marple: 726,000 (4%)
21:00 - Lewis: 917,000 (4.6%)
ITV4
22:00 - James Corden's World Cup Live: 415,000 (2.1%)
Poor for Big Brother, C4 really should have kept it as one entire show.
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