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I think its a shame for Luther, its never gonna do well between BGT and Corrie. I hope the BBC takes its slot into consideration when thinking whether to renew it or not. I bet PVR and iplayer views will be higher.
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Let's look at it like this:
- BBC1 goes down to 2/3m when ITV1 has a show which gets 8/9/10m on. - ITV1 goes down to 2/3m when BBC1 has a show which gets 4/5/6m on. |
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Terrific figures for EastEnders considering! I knew it would be higher last night, but I wasn't expecting it to go up that much. Just proves to me really that the BBC could have been onto a winner if they had stripped it across the week at 7:30pm. OK, that would involve moving it out of two of its usual slots, but the Monday was a bank holiday anyway and I think more people would have found it scheduled like that rather than right in the middle of BGT.
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Yesterday's Multichannel figures:
BBC3 20:00 World Cup’s Most Shocking Moments - 860,200 (3.4%) * slot average 394,900 (1.8%) 22:00 Eastenders - 1.73m (8.3%) 22:30 La La Land - 432,200 (2.6%) BBC4 21:00 Rick Stein’s Taste of Italian Opera - 395,500 (1.6%) 22:00 Flight of the Conchords - 205,400 (1.0%) 22:30 Mark Lawson Talks to Vanessa Redgrave - 64,600 (0.5%) Bravo 22:00 Spartacus: Blood and Sand - 355,500 (2.0%) Bravo +1 23:00 Spartacus: Blood and Sand - 41,200 (0.2%) Sky1 22:00 Fringe - 194,500 (1.1%) ITV2 22:00 Britain's Got More Talent 664,400 (3.7%) 00:50 Coronation Street - 111k (3.5%) ITV2 +1 23:00 Britain's Got More Talent - 113,600 (0.5%) E4 [inc +1] 21:00 Smallville - 395,300 (1.6%) 22:00 Smallville - 360,500 (1.9%) Fiver [inc +1] 22:00 Flashforward - 121,900 (0.7%) Five USA [inc +1] 21:00 FILM: Universal Soldier – The Return - 201,200 (0.9%) Virgin 1 [inc +1] 22:00 Brit Cops: Frontline Crime UK - 138,100 (0.7%) Source: Broadcast, Attentional |
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BGT not doing as well as people would have thought but very good ratings still.
Shame for Luther, and EE gets a strong rating, fighting back quite hard it is! BGMT on ITV2, seems a bit low. |
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Eastenders did very well yesterday, I suspect if it hadn't increased its audience then Britains's Got Talent may have been on a par with Monday night as the first half hour must of been around 8million or so. Does anyone have a breakdown for the show?
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BGMT on ITV2, seems a bit low.
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I wonder if ITV will continue with Corrie tonight in light of these shootings in Cumbria.
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I wonder if ITV will continue with Corrie tonight in light of these shootings in Cumbria.
Depending on what happens though (not nice to speculate about this kind of event), we could see some schedule changes this afternoon if it turns into a massacre. |
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Pfffffffffffffttttt!
The sound of air escaping from the massively over-inflated Cowell talent show balloon. ![]() No traction whatsoever. Stuck at a c10m overnight as it has been throughout this entire series. That's a MASSIVE drop year on year when the nightly semi-finals were getting 14-15m - and that during one of the hottest weeks of 2009. If GeorgeS thought SCD was "tanking" after dropping 0.5m or so on certain shows last autumn, then I'd like to know how he describes BGT's performance. If ITV can no longer guarantee its customers a 14-19m audience for its twice-yearly Cowell-fest, then there could be trouble ahead as the Cowell Supertanker heads for the rocks in a fog of over-exposure. |
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This is going to sound insensitive but I don't see why TV channels should ever have to cancel programmes or even consider it in light of what is happening now. I'm sure people can distinguish between real life and fiction.
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I've never seen a soap been pulled within 12 hours of going to air, and I'm not sure what they could do.
Depending on what happens though (not nice to speculate about this kind of event), we could see some schedule changes this afternoon if it turns into a massacre.
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I've never seen a soap been pulled within 12 hours of going to air, and I'm not sure what they could do.
Depending on what happens though (not nice to speculate about this kind of event), we could see some schedule changes this afternoon if it turns into a massacre. ![]() I suspect money will talk and they will go ahead as planned. Few ITV viewers care about serious news anyway, as long as Cheryl Cole's not involved, everything will be fine... |
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wasn't EE pulled the day that Tony Brown stood down and Cameron took over?
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Pfffffffffffffttttt!
The sound of air escaping from the massively over-inflated Cowell talent show balloon. ![]() No traction whatsoever. Stuck at a c10m overnight as it has been throughout this entire series. That's a MASSIVE drop year on year when the nightly semi-finals were getting 14-15m - and that during one of the hottest weeks of 2009. |
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I've never seen a soap been pulled within 12 hours of going to air, and I'm not sure what they could do.
Depending on what happens though (not nice to speculate about this kind of event), we could see some schedule changes this afternoon if it turns into a massacre. These episodes contain characters being held at gun point which is pretty close to the bone with what seems to be happening today. |
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I've been reading over the thread since yesterday and I noticed that the soap averages have increased since last year. In particular, I'm really pleased to see how Emmerdale has increased. With the EastEnders live episode and the hype around Archie's killer storyline, a big increase was expected for it but Emmerdale hasn't really had a massively promoted storyline since the start of the year. To see it have an average of 600,000 extra viewers compared to last year is extremely impressive and I believe it reflects the high quality of Emmerdale at the moment.
As for last night, really good for ITV1. 10m for BGT is still impressive and Corrie is doing well also. I think anyone predicting that Corrie will grow to over 13m+ viewers by Friday is overestimating considerably, probably so they can point out how disappointing Corrie did compared to their expectations by the end of the week. I can see it maybe edging 11m viewers by Friday, but certainly nothing more. Well done to EastEnders for holding up strongly against BGT. |
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Pfffffffffffffttttt!
The sound of air escaping from the massively over-inflated Cowell talent show balloon. ![]() No traction whatsoever. Stuck at a c10m overnight as it has been throughout this entire series. That's a MASSIVE drop year on year when the nightly semi-finals were getting 14-15m - and that during one of the hottest weeks of 2009. If GeorgeS thought SCD was "tanking" after dropping 0.5m or so on certain shows last autumn, then I'd like to know how he describes BGT's performance. If ITV can no longer guarantee its customers a 14-19m audience for its twice-yearly Cowell-fest, then there could be trouble ahead as the Cowell Supertanker heads for the rocks in a fog of over-exposure. Looking further into the year, X Factor always rates slightly lower than the preceding BGT so its looking like X Factor may be getting its lowest ratings this year for quite some time. I suggested this yesterday, ITV need to consider whether they want these shows long term or short term. If its long term, they need to make big decisions about the future of the shows and they will have to sacrifice a lot of money. IMO X Factor and BGT should alternate each year in the autumn, running BGT alongside The Royal Variety Show when its ITVs turn to air it. To replace BGT in the spring, there are quite a few cheap options. They could move I'm a Celebrity, they could buy Celebrity Big Brother or with Andrew Lloyd Webber rumoured to be moving to ITV, they could literally do a like for like replacement with a West End search show. |
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Consistent for BGT and Corrie - if not spectacular. That would very much be the theme of the series to be honest. ITV might be feeling a touch underwhelmed by it, but they'll surely have prepared themselves for lower numbers than last year. It hasn't recaptured the hype - partly thats the show but I do think its struggling to generate newspaper attention because of the preoccupation with the World Cup too. EastEnders held up superbly when starting in line with BGT at 7.30pm. As others have said, it would have made sense to have yesterdays extra half hour before the normal slot rather than after it. Holby City was more badly damaged and Luther was mauled - mind you, its numbers have been going down all series. Though its overall average will be alright, I think the trend will count against another series. Quote:
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20:00 World Cup’s Most Shocking Moments - 860,200 (3.4%) * slot average 394,900 (1.8%) 22:00 Eastenders - 1.73m (8.3%) Quote:
I've been reading over the thread since yesterday and I noticed that the soap averages have increased since last year. In particular, I'm really pleased to see how Emmerdale has increased. With the EastEnders live episode and the hype around Archie's killer storyline, a big increase was expected for it but Emmerdale hasn't really had a massively promoted storyline since the start of the year. To see it have an average of nearly a million extra viewers compared to last year is extremely impressive and I believe it reflects the high quality of Emmerdale at the moment.
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EastEnders did very well last night.
BGT is down and I'm sure ITV will be somewhat underwhelmed. Nevertheless it's doing far better than their usual output ever does so not much room for complaint really. |
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I suggested this yesterday, ITV need to consider whether they want these shows long term or short term. If its long term, they need to make big decisions about the future of the shows and they will have to sacrifice a lot of money. IMO X Factor and BGT should alternate each year in the autumn, running BGT alongside The Royal Variety Show when its ITVs turn to air it. To replace BGT in the spring, there are quite a few cheap options. They could move I'm a Celebrity, they could buy Celebrity Big Brother or with Andrew Lloyd Webber rumoured to be moving to ITV, they could literally do a like for like replacement with a West End search show.
And it's not the case that XF rates lower than BGT in the autumn. It was last year but not in 2008. Depending on how this series goes, I could see this one doing better than BGT (unless ITV start scheduling it at 6.30pm, spread over 4 hours on one night with a new hour long episode of Emmerdale in between). Vs the last Tuesday show, it's down a pretty hefty 20% and up 17% from the last pre-Boyle Tuesday. Taking into account the impact of the scheduling and considering the series has been down 10% pretty much since the start, I don't see that the long term outlook has really changed a whole lot from last week. |
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BBC News so far ahead of Sky News with their coverage of the Cumbrian shootings it is incredible.
You can tell $ky are cutting costs when the best coverage they can provide is one correspondent, a simple graphic showing a map of the area and locations involved, one low-res capture and just repeating what is being written on all the wires. Shocking story though. Wouldn't be surprised if Corrie is pulled tonight if it contains characters being held at gunpoint as described earlier. |
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No traction whatsoever. Stuck at a c10m overnight as it has been throughout this entire series. That's a MASSIVE drop year on year when the nightly semi-finals were getting 14-15m - and that during one of the hottest weeks of 2009.
. Anyway, decent enough for BGT and Corrie last night to hold 10m. Once again, BGT was down about 20% compared to the equivalent semi last year and it looks like it'll continue that way for the remainder of the week. The performance of the night was EastEnders - 6.2m against BGT is very respectable and a new record for the BBC3 repeat as well. Holby and Luther both suffered but I guess that was inevitable. With its audience dropping every single week, Luther looks like a dead cert to be cancelled. Disappointing rating for ITV News at Ten. It was bound to be down from last year, but even the bulletins after I'm a Celebrity which rated worse than BGT were rating better IIRC. |
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BBC1 Schedule Change
- a BBC News Special is on from 14:15 (now) until 15:00. |
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