^ Exactly. If it's about the principle, then the amount of viewers it's likely to get should be irrelevant.
The Ratings Thread (Part 9)
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im glad ITV pulled Corrie, it does seem like it would be inapporaite, to air the episode.
Not on the same level as I feel for the familys of those dead, but you could almost feel bad for ITV, spent all that money, put together what should be a winning week, and have to postpone an episode.
TV Burp seems to fill the gap well enough, the question is, will people want to watch BGT tonight?
Not on the same level as I feel for the familys of those dead, but you could almost feel bad for ITV, spent all that money, put together what should be a winning week, and have to postpone an episode.
TV Burp seems to fill the gap well enough, the question is, will people want to watch BGT tonight?
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“What's the difference if it's a 'mark of respect'?
This is where the argument falls down.
It's very sad news but if everytime someone was killed a TV programme was postponed nothing would ever be broadcast. And that doesn't make me insensitive. And doesn't mean I'm fixated on ratings. And I'm certainly not bothered about missing my 'daily fix of Corrie' either.”
“What's the difference if it's a 'mark of respect'?
This is where the argument falls down.
It's very sad news but if everytime someone was killed a TV programme was postponed nothing would ever be broadcast. And that doesn't make me insensitive. And doesn't mean I'm fixated on ratings. And I'm certainly not bothered about missing my 'daily fix of Corrie' either.”
Well you could argue that ITV are being more respectful than Sky in that case.
Regardless, my point in that post was because ITV have stopped a major show to show respect. Sky not showing a movie would make little impact as it's not as widely viewed.
Yes, I get your point if everytime someone was killed, but this was something quite extraordinary for the UK, 12 people being randomly shot, 25 injured and villages being locked up for 4 hours.
I think this post sums it up. (Quoted below).
Quote:
“Remember Dunblane over ten years ago? It was on TV forever, maybe because it was children, may be because when we first heard it, we assumed in was in the States because things like that just don't happen over here. But now, these events are not altogether commonplace, but things happen so often we almost lose sight of just how tragic and horrific this is. A mum kills her two children to stop social services getting them, two fathers kill their wives and daughters because they face financial ruin. Sad, sad, sad.
Do I feel it justified a News special? Yes. Suddenly the fact that the sun hasn't shined much during this half term holiday isn't problem, my hubby and my two sons are at home and I have so much to be thankful for.”
“Remember Dunblane over ten years ago? It was on TV forever, maybe because it was children, may be because when we first heard it, we assumed in was in the States because things like that just don't happen over here. But now, these events are not altogether commonplace, but things happen so often we almost lose sight of just how tragic and horrific this is. A mum kills her two children to stop social services getting them, two fathers kill their wives and daughters because they face financial ruin. Sad, sad, sad.
Do I feel it justified a News special? Yes. Suddenly the fact that the sun hasn't shined much during this half term holiday isn't problem, my hubby and my two sons are at home and I have so much to be thankful for.”
Originally Posted by MrBing:
“Stupid decision. I don't watch Coronation Street, but it's still an illogical decision to postpone shows just because some storylines reflect things that have happened in real life.
There's a film on Sky Movies later tonight where someone gets shot dead, you don't see them changing anything.”
“Stupid decision. I don't watch Coronation Street, but it's still an illogical decision to postpone shows just because some storylines reflect things that have happened in real life.
There's a film on Sky Movies later tonight where someone gets shot dead, you don't see them changing anything.”
What makes you so confident that Sky Movies will air the movie? Knowing Sky they probably will, but there is every chance that they won't.
I remember in July 2005 the small digital channel abc1 took both General Hospital (U.S. soap opera) and Scrubs (U.S. sitcom) off air for a few days following the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London, out of respect.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“What makes you so confident that Sky Movies will air the movie? Knowing Sky they probably will, but there is every chance that they won't.
I remember in July 2005 the small digital channel abc1 took both General Hospital (U.S. soap opera) and Scrubs (U.S. sitcom) off air for a few days following the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London, out of respect.”
“What makes you so confident that Sky Movies will air the movie? Knowing Sky they probably will, but there is every chance that they won't.
I remember in July 2005 the small digital channel abc1 took both General Hospital (U.S. soap opera) and Scrubs (U.S. sitcom) off air for a few days following the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London, out of respect.”
But ironically replaced Scrubs with an episode of Hope and Faith in which one of the characters did a really awful Cockney accent!
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Why wouldn't they?”
“Why wouldn't they?”
Family entertainment should prove more popular tonight. You dont want kids watching this rolling news coverage.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Family entertainment should prove more popular tonight. You dont want kids watching this rolling news coverage.”
“Family entertainment should prove more popular tonight. You dont want kids watching this rolling news coverage.”
The day after 9/11 the new David Attenborough documentary pulled in a big audience because, it was said, people were looking for an escape from the real-life horror.
I feel a bit guilty about asking this at this time, but as they say, life goes on, so - does anyone know the ratings for last night's Springwatch?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“The day after 9/11 the new David Attenborough documentary pulled in a big audience because, it was said, people were looking for an escape from the real-life horror.
I feel a bit guilty about asking this at this time, but as they say, life goes on, so - does anyone know the ratings for last night's Springwatch?”
“The day after 9/11 the new David Attenborough documentary pulled in a big audience because, it was said, people were looking for an escape from the real-life horror.
I feel a bit guilty about asking this at this time, but as they say, life goes on, so - does anyone know the ratings for last night's Springwatch?”
2.52m with 98k on HD I think
It's a very tricky and sensitive issue. I don't believe it is insensitive to think Corrie should still air as planned tonight, but I also am not sure it's quite right to do so given such a terrible thing happened today.
Not sure what ITV should do now though. The best bet would be for Corrie to run as follows:
Thu - 9pm
Fri - 9pm
Sat - 10pm after BGT
Bumping Emmerdale tomorrow or Thursday would be a silly idea for ITV and Corrie especially given the expense they went to with these eps.
10pm on Saturday would be a bit weird but given the BGT lead-in it should do fine, I think?
TBH though the BGT finale is too long anyway so they could always cut it and go:
7.30pm Britain's Got Talent
9.00pm Coronation Street
9.30pm Britain's Got Talent - The Result
They could even move the first ep back to 7pm on Saturday, advertising it heavily on Thur/Fri's shows, allowing for a 9pm or 9.30pm Corrie ep?
Such short notice though!
Not sure what ITV should do now though. The best bet would be for Corrie to run as follows:
Thu - 9pm
Fri - 9pm
Sat - 10pm after BGT
Bumping Emmerdale tomorrow or Thursday would be a silly idea for ITV and Corrie especially given the expense they went to with these eps.
10pm on Saturday would be a bit weird but given the BGT lead-in it should do fine, I think?
TBH though the BGT finale is too long anyway so they could always cut it and go:
7.30pm Britain's Got Talent
9.00pm Coronation Street
9.30pm Britain's Got Talent - The Result
They could even move the first ep back to 7pm on Saturday, advertising it heavily on Thur/Fri's shows, allowing for a 9pm or 9.30pm Corrie ep?
Such short notice though!
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Family entertainment should prove more popular tonight. You dont want kids watching this rolling news coverage.”
“Family entertainment should prove more popular tonight. You dont want kids watching this rolling news coverage.”
I should think so.
Wonder if the results will take a knock tonight though - I can imagine quite a few switching over to The Apprentice at 9pm.
I think the possible options for Corrie are:
1. Thursday at 7pm (meaning Emmerdale would be out of sync and as not many viewers would realise Corrie was on it would fall to sub 7m, not good for such a high profile ep)
2. Thursday or Friday at 10pm (not a bad option-all the Corrie viewers would realise it was there if it was advertised during the first episode, although I don't think ITV would think this logically)
3. Saturday at 10pm (Again don't think ITV would think to schedule Corrie on a Saturday, but it could do well with an ~16m lead in)
4. Monday at 7.30pm (Worst possible scenario imo-start of the week to the climax of a huge storyline and everything else following out of sync, but this is ITV so I'd expect this to be the most likely option)
5. Drop/merge episodes (Also a strong possibility, but if they did this I would hope the full episodes are put on ITV.com)
Can't see any other feasible options tbh..
1. Thursday at 7pm (meaning Emmerdale would be out of sync and as not many viewers would realise Corrie was on it would fall to sub 7m, not good for such a high profile ep)
2. Thursday or Friday at 10pm (not a bad option-all the Corrie viewers would realise it was there if it was advertised during the first episode, although I don't think ITV would think this logically)
3. Saturday at 10pm (Again don't think ITV would think to schedule Corrie on a Saturday, but it could do well with an ~16m lead in)
4. Monday at 7.30pm (Worst possible scenario imo-start of the week to the climax of a huge storyline and everything else following out of sync, but this is ITV so I'd expect this to be the most likely option)
5. Drop/merge episodes (Also a strong possibility, but if they did this I would hope the full episodes are put on ITV.com)
Can't see any other feasible options tbh..
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“*Spoilers* ITV made the right decision here, I don't care what anybody on here says. Especially in light of Corrie's strong northern audience, it would be grossly insensitive to go ahead with an episode tonight depicting a character being shot dead. Yes, it's only fiction, but that's not the point.
And who knows, Harry Hill might work quite well there. Obviously not as well as Corrie, but I doubt it will be a disaster.
So I commend ITV for showing respect to the people of Cumbria and the many people affected by this dreadful tragedy by postponing tonight's episode. There are more important things than ratings, you know, people.”
“*Spoilers* ITV made the right decision here, I don't care what anybody on here says. Especially in light of Corrie's strong northern audience, it would be grossly insensitive to go ahead with an episode tonight depicting a character being shot dead. Yes, it's only fiction, but that's not the point.
And who knows, Harry Hill might work quite well there. Obviously not as well as Corrie, but I doubt it will be a disaster.
So I commend ITV for showing respect to the people of Cumbria and the many people affected by this dreadful tragedy by postponing tonight's episode. There are more important things than ratings, you know, people.”
Well said - I can't believe some of the comments made on the last couple of pages.
Although it will be the first episode pulled in many years due to current events (possibly the first ever), it was the right call - and ITV have the 7.30pm slot free next Wednesday to catch up.
Why couldn't they just make BGT 2 hours straight tonight?
Do the same tomorrow or Friday and run Corrie as an hour-long from 9.30pm.
Do the same tomorrow or Friday and run Corrie as an hour-long from 9.30pm.
EastEnders is on next Wednesday at 7.30pm!
Plus I imagine Gail's verdict will start to be announced at 7.59pm Monday with the Guilty/Not Guilty coming at 8.30pm Monday, so it'd be best if they were back on track by then.
Plus I imagine Gail's verdict will start to be announced at 7.59pm Monday with the Guilty/Not Guilty coming at 8.30pm Monday, so it'd be best if they were back on track by then.
I'm thinking, some people may not be in the mood for watching BGT or other entertainment shows tonight because of what happened, but i dont think it will affect ratings at all though!
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I'm thinking, some people may not be in the mood for watching BGT or other entertainment shows tonight because of what happened, but i dont think it will affect ratings at all though!”
“I'm thinking, some people may not be in the mood for watching BGT or other entertainment shows tonight because of what happened, but i dont think it will affect ratings at all though!”
I'd say the opposite myself, people would want something to cheer them up in my view.
And it was the best of the 3 semi finals so far for me tonight. And I won't be surprised if people choose to stick with ITV, nothing serious in content on, BGT had good comedy in it, OK this edition of TV Burp is out of date, but I can still see it getting good numbers.
As for Coronation Street, I'm not sure what will happen. It's a rock and a hard place for ITV, unfortunately...
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“I think the possible options for Corrie are:
1. Thursday at 7pm (meaning Emmerdale would be out of sync and as not many viewers would realise Corrie was on it would fall to sub 7m, not good for such a high profile ep)
2. Thursday or Friday at 10pm (not a bad option-all the Corrie viewers would realise it was there if it was advertised during the first episode, although I don't think ITV would think this logically)
3. Saturday at 10pm (Again don't think ITV would think to schedule Corrie on a Saturday, but it could do well with an ~16m lead in)
4. Monday at 7.30pm (Worst possible scenario imo-start of the week to the climax of a huge storyline and everything else following out of sync, but this is ITV so I'd expect this to be the most likely option)
5. Drop/merge episodes (Also a strong possibility, but if they did this I would hope the full episodes are put on ITV.com)
Can't see any other feasible options tbh..”
“I think the possible options for Corrie are:
1. Thursday at 7pm (meaning Emmerdale would be out of sync and as not many viewers would realise Corrie was on it would fall to sub 7m, not good for such a high profile ep)
2. Thursday or Friday at 10pm (not a bad option-all the Corrie viewers would realise it was there if it was advertised during the first episode, although I don't think ITV would think this logically)
3. Saturday at 10pm (Again don't think ITV would think to schedule Corrie on a Saturday, but it could do well with an ~16m lead in)
4. Monday at 7.30pm (Worst possible scenario imo-start of the week to the climax of a huge storyline and everything else following out of sync, but this is ITV so I'd expect this to be the most likely option)
5. Drop/merge episodes (Also a strong possibility, but if they did this I would hope the full episodes are put on ITV.com)
Can't see any other feasible options tbh..”
They could easily get back ahead by Monday by ditching Countrywise. Tomorrow at 7pm probably isn't the best idea. Perhaps the best idea would be to have BGT starting at 7pm on Friday and 2 episodes of Corrie back to back inbetween the performance and results show. Then just air 2 eps of Emmerdale on Monday.
IMO, I really enjoyed Harry Hill being on tonight. Despite the Corrie storyline being very gripping; as well as me missing an episode yesterday (due to work) and still haven't caught up so was looking forward to tonights, today's events have been quite serious and the news has been all negative and talking about death which of course is understandable so to have a light humorous show such as HH was a nice filler.
Originally Posted by Desert Rat:
“They could easily get back ahead by Monday by ditching Countrywise.”
“They could easily get back ahead by Monday by ditching Countrywise.”
a) you'd then have 3 episodes back to back
b) it'd clash with EastEnders
You can't just have a burning factory, go to an advert break then come back on a brand new day with the factory mess cleared a little bit and stuff.
It's got to be on separate days in my view for continuity purposes.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“8pm:
NBC - America's Got Talent - 11.18m (3.1)
ABC - Wipeout - 8.11m (2.9)
FOX - Hells Kitchen - 6.16m (2.9)
9pm:
NBC - America's Got Talent - 13.40m (4.1)
FOX - Glee - 8.99m (3.8)
ABC - Wipeout - 8.51m (3.1)
10pm:
NBC - Losing It With Jillian - 6.67m (2.7)
ABC - 20/20 - 7.45m (2.3)
America's Got Talent was up 13% from last summers premiere to an average of 3.6 in the demo. At 8pm it topped Hells Kitchen among adults 18-49 and even more impressively, it beat Glee at 9pm. Expect NBC to rave about that in any press release that follows today.
Like BGT, it's also a victim of an early start to prop up another show. This time however, it's just for a week and Losing It With Jillian is 8pm bound, with AGT moving back to its usual 9pm-11pm. It had a very slow start (just 2.8 in the first half hour) but in the final half-hour it was up to a 4.2, which I'm pretty sure is a new peak for the series.
Glee was down 21% from last week without an Idol lead-in but 15% higher than the average for the first 13 episodes and a new series high for an episode without an Idol lead-in.
Hells Kitchen was up 4% from last seasons premiere, Wipeout was down 9%.
Losing it with Jillian, a spin-off of The Biggest Loser, went from a 2.8 in the first half hour to a 2.5 in the second. Considering its lead-in and the impending move to 8pm, I'm not sure that's as good as tvbythenumbers are suggesting.
In one of the peculiar anomalies of US ratings, FOX beat NBC on the night despite losing every half hour in which they went head-to-head (NBC averaged over 8-11pm whereas FOX is just averaged from 8-10pm).
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/02...x-on-top/52900”
“8pm:
NBC - America's Got Talent - 11.18m (3.1)
ABC - Wipeout - 8.11m (2.9)
FOX - Hells Kitchen - 6.16m (2.9)
9pm:
NBC - America's Got Talent - 13.40m (4.1)
FOX - Glee - 8.99m (3.8)
ABC - Wipeout - 8.51m (3.1)
10pm:
NBC - Losing It With Jillian - 6.67m (2.7)
ABC - 20/20 - 7.45m (2.3)
America's Got Talent was up 13% from last summers premiere to an average of 3.6 in the demo. At 8pm it topped Hells Kitchen among adults 18-49 and even more impressively, it beat Glee at 9pm. Expect NBC to rave about that in any press release that follows today.
Like BGT, it's also a victim of an early start to prop up another show. This time however, it's just for a week and Losing It With Jillian is 8pm bound, with AGT moving back to its usual 9pm-11pm. It had a very slow start (just 2.8 in the first half hour) but in the final half-hour it was up to a 4.2, which I'm pretty sure is a new peak for the series.
Glee was down 21% from last week without an Idol lead-in but 15% higher than the average for the first 13 episodes and a new series high for an episode without an Idol lead-in.
Hells Kitchen was up 4% from last seasons premiere, Wipeout was down 9%.
Losing it with Jillian, a spin-off of The Biggest Loser, went from a 2.8 in the first half hour to a 2.5 in the second. Considering its lead-in and the impending move to 8pm, I'm not sure that's as good as tvbythenumbers are suggesting.
In one of the peculiar anomalies of US ratings, FOX beat NBC on the night despite losing every half hour in which they went head-to-head (NBC averaged over 8-11pm whereas FOX is just averaged from 8-10pm).
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/02...x-on-top/52900”
I wonder when CBS will debut their summer shows. Great seeing summer shows improving from last year, unlike autumn shows. 20/20 is also higher than most autumn Friday editions. I think 2.7 is quite good, but considering it got AGT lead-in, I'm not too sure. I would say it could have done a bit better. Other than that, 9pm/10pm broadcast shows (especially 10pm shows, I think) may need to brace themselves as summer cable shows (such as Burn Notice, The Closer, Psych, True Blood) will come charging in a few weeks time.
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