[simon_adams]

Derren Brown was until a few years ago, and he came out on his own terms and almost nobody noticed (I only found out last year by chance)

[geminivirgo]

I found the "Afraid To Be Gay" programme interesting to watch.
In particular the hidden camera footage of people reacting to the guys holding hands.

I thought to myself - they may react that way with just one couple but add more guys (or girls) holding hands and see how that reaction would change.

I wanted to mention girls holding hands to keep things more equal but I get the impression no-one minds girls holding hands. Presumably because many girls do it out of friendship.

Surely everyone is entitled to hold hands with whoever they want. It's a mutual act of love between two people. There really is nothing more special than that.

Anyone who sees the gender of the people in love needs to wake up and realise that love goes beyond gender (it always did).

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by geminivirgo

I found the "Afraid To Be Gay" programme interesting to watch.
In particular the hidden camera footage of people reacting to the guys holding hands.

I thought to myself - they may react that way with just one couple but add more guys (or girls) holding hands and see how that reaction would change.

I wanted to mention girls holding hands to keep things more equal but I get the impression no-one minds girls holding hands. Presumably because many girls do it out of friendship.

Surely everyone is entitled to hold hands with whoever they want. It's a mutual act of love between two people. There really is nothing more special than that.

Anyone who sees the gender of the people in love needs to wake up and realise that love goes beyond gender (it always did).

I agree with you I think people should be able to hold hands with each other whatever sexual orientation they are. I hold hands with my boyfriend while we are walking down the street and I live in Belfast.

I unfortunately missed the programme that was on as I would love to have seen it.

[lucyloverlou]

Matt Horne must be some kind of simpleton if he thinks life is as black and white as that. He has no idea what is involved in some people's reasons for staying in the closet.
I agree that if it's purely a case of worrying they won't get offered the roles they want in films or if women will go off them, than yes that seems pretty poor and does nothing for gay people in the industry, only serving to keep perpetuating the inequality. But, I would say that is rarely just the case. Most often, people are in the closet to their families too, which must cause emotional distress and anguish. Perhaps their families won't accept it or they have an issue with accepting their sexualities themselves? Either way, it is no-one else's place to pass judgement on others. Just because someone happens to be in the public eye, it does not mean that every detail of the personal life should be made public property.

[lucyloverlou]

Originally Posted by simon_adams

Derren Brown was until a few years ago, and he came out on his own terms and almost nobody noticed (I only found out last year by chance)

Derren Brown was never in the closet, it was just never an issue. He wasn't pretending to be anything else it was just a question nobody asked and he is a pretty private guy anyway.

[Blamhappy2]

Originally Posted by Mrs Pickles

Yes the model is a bveard for sure

I thought that, but then they got married, and I wouldn't have thought marriage was necessary. so maybe he's straight and camp. Who knows?

Dan said Dermott O'Leary. What on Earth makes you think that? He'd be the last person I'd think of.

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by Blamhappy2

I thought that, but then they got married, and I wouldn't have thought marriage was necessary. so maybe he's straight and camp. Who knows?

Dan said Dermott O'Leary. What on Earth makes you think that? He'd be the last person I'd think of.

Dermot O'Leary is very gay friendly so that must make him gay.

[OneTreeHillFan]

Is John Barrowman actually gay? (seriously)

[Blamhappy2]

Originally Posted by methodyguy

Dermot O'Leary is very gay friendly so that must make him gay.

lol Get your drift. He's just a lovely bloke, really, and lovely people generally aren't homophobic.

[Fringo]

Originally Posted by Blamhappy2

I thought that, but then they got married, and I wouldn't have thought marriage was necessary. so maybe he's straight and camp. Who knows?

Dan said Dermott O'Leary. What on Earth makes you think that? He'd be the last person I'd think of.

DW isn't gay - I absolutely know this.

[Blamhappy2]

Originally Posted by Fringo

DW isn't gay - I absolutely know this.

Really? Cool. I think it's a shame that men tend to feel that they have to act butch to affirm their heterosexuality. Well done, DW. Are you a former girlfriend then?

[sorcha_healy27]

I think Robbie Williams is gay but is in total denial about it hence flaunting relationships with all these women

I also think Rob Pattinson might be gay

[Tulip19]

Originally Posted by OneTreeHillFan

Is John Barrowman actually gay? (seriously)

Yes! He's civil-partnershipped. His partner is an architect as far as I know.

[M. Tourette]

Originally Posted by methodyguy

When one sees all the hatred and homophobia that gay people face in their every day lives especially in the 21st century I do not blame people for not wanting to "come out".

We are not talking about everyday folk though, we are talking about the media.
The reason that certain Celebs do not come out of the closet is the fear that doing so will affect their career.
Many producers while not being homophobic are very very blinkered when it comes to casting and if you have that gay tag then that is where you'll stay unless your old enough not to pose any sexual threat.

[dd68]

Originally Posted by f1d

Sean from Coronation Street... aka Antony Cotton?

I don't think he's in the closet... the doors were flung open ages ago...

Oh, come on, surely he never got as far as the closet, probably too busy looking in the mirror

[21stCenturyBoy]

Ryan Seacrest, one or two Prem Footballers and Dale Winton.

[conchie]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

I'd say Simon Cowell, but now that he's dating The One, I am not that sure anymore

Not sure any more !!!!! Its the photos with THE ONE that do nothing BUT confirm the size of Cowell's closet.

[Tulip19]

Originally Posted by 21stCenturyBoy

Ryan Seacrest, one or two Prem Footballers and Dale Winton.

lol

[Demizdeeroolz]

Linda Lusardi's husband Sam Kane was very camp when he appeared on Brookside, I was surprised he was straight

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by Demizdeeroolz

Linda Lusardi's husband Sam Kane was very camp when he appeared on Brookside, I was surprised he was straight

I think straight camp men do exsist,

[donna255]

David Walliams, I doubt it.

No reason for him not to come out if he was for a start.

He is just camp, straight but true there are straight camp men.

[wallster]

Originally Posted by donna255

David Walliams, I doubt it.

No reason for him not to come out if he was for a start.

He is just camp, straight but true there are straight camp men.

Very true. There are lots of gay men who haven't a bit of camp in their bodies, but quite a few straight guys who are very camp - but totally heterosexual.

[imnotjesus]

Originally Posted by M. Tourette

We are not talking about everyday folk though, we are talking about the media.
The reason that certain Celebs do not come out of the closet is the fear that doing so will affect their career.
Many producers while not being homophobic are very very blinkered when it comes to casting and if you have that gay tag then that is where you'll stay unless your old enough not to pose any sexual threat.

That may be the case for some, but they are actually real people too, that are under the same day to day pressures as other people with regards to family, friends and privacy issues etc.

[Mister Maganese]

Robert 'allergic to vagina' Pattinson

[big dan]

I am so glad to see some people on this forum are not so ignorant to think that camp traits = gay.