[Leicester_Hunk]

Originally Posted by 21stCenturyBoy

one or two Prem Footballers.

Go on give us a clue!

[jill1812]

Originally Posted by Demizdeeroolz

Linda Lusardi's husband Sam Kane was very camp when he appeared on Brookside, I was surprised he was straight

I remember his character getting a storyline similar, in that everyone thought he was gay, turned out he was straight.

[RachyPachey21]

Is Louis Walsh out? Although I dont know if he is gay/straight or into anything for that matter

[sorcha_healy27]

Originally Posted by big dan

I am so glad to see some people on this forum are not so ignorant to think that camp traits = gay.

louis spence is as camp as christmas- it annoys me

[:Thomas:]

I think :
Joe McElderry
Simon Cowell
Louis Walsh

Those are the three that spring to mind, especially Joe

[:Thomas:]

Originally Posted by imnotjesus

A close family member of mine was gay, he didnt tell alot of his family until very close to his death, and even at the point of knowing he was dying his mother and brother refused to accept it. Although they said they loved him they would not go to visit him before he died. There are alot of issues involved with "coming out of the closet", and its not something any outsider can understand. Alot of the time its not the shame a person feels for themself, but rather the risk of losing loved ones and friends. I know we seem to live in a modern world now where being homosexual or bisexual is accepted and embraced, but we really dont. Religion and stereotyping still plays a big part in the lack of real acceptance.

Dont forget it takes alot of bottle to tell people something so personal about yourself, and if you're an introverted private type of person, then it must be so so hard. They may even quite rightly believe its none of anyones business.


Whilst there are still threads like this ongoing, whilst people still make an issue out of peoples sexualities then it will continue to raise eyebrows and wont feel normal.

Its not like people need to know for any particular reason at all, its just for the sake of knowing. Its not as if knowing someone is gay is really that interesting at all. And if someone pretends to be straight in the media, then thats their choice, not every gay person wants to be an advocate for gay rights and a role model for other gay people.

Good post

[pussyfoot]

Ronan Keating

[lets go gemma!]

zac efron
chance crawford

lovely beards though

[Fringo]

Out of interest - if you say someone is - and you know they are - but it is unverified - do you get banned? What's the beef with that - do you need to do a HIGNFY thing - allegedly or is it OK?

[dw198]

Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27

I also think Rob Pattinson might be gay

I imagine Tom Sturridge might agree.

[CRM]

A certain Geordie TV presenter who hosts shows with his sidekick. His sports presenter "girlfriend" eats furry pie.

[Fringo]

Originally Posted by imnotjesus

A close family member of mine was gay, he didnt tell alot of his family until very close to his death, and even at the point of knowing he was dying his mother and brother refused to accept it. Although they said they loved him they would not go to visit him before he died. There are alot of issues involved with "coming out of the closet", and its not something any outsider can understand. Alot of the time its not the shame a person feels for themself, but rather the risk of losing loved ones and friends. I know we seem to live in a modern world now where being homosexual or bisexual is accepted and embraced, but we really dont. Religion and stereotyping still plays a big part in the lack of real acceptance.

Dont forget it takes alot of bottle to tell people something so personal about yourself, and if you're an introverted private type of person, then it must be so so hard. They may even quite rightly believe its none of anyones business.


Whilst there are still threads like this ongoing, whilst people still make an issue out of peoples sexualities then it will continue to raise eyebrows and wont feel normal.

Its not like people need to know for any particular reason at all, its just for the sake of knowing. Its not as if knowing someone is gay is really that interesting at all. And if someone pretends to be straight in the media, then thats their choice, not every gay person wants to be an advocate for gay rights and a role model for other gay people.

I absolutely agree with what you're saying but in another vista - when in the entertainment world it is seen as career suicide it can never be seen as OK unless people do come out. The more it's "out" there the easier it is for it to be accepted.

But I agree - it's not up to us it's up the individual but when it's seen as a dirty secret so it will remain and it's not.

Regardless of your background being open and honest, even if it means losing your family (though normally they actually do come around) to a certain degree, is better for the individual surely. Living a lie is no walk in the park but the more it's hidden the more it's seen as a bad thing. My friend killed himself because he lived this lie - absolutely tragic and I begged him to tell the truth - the fear outweighs the reality sometimes but that's not easy to realise when you're living it.

Having said all that - I can't bear it when out and proud gays (ahem you Boy George) revel in "outing" people because they had the ability to do so and it's the individual's prerogative.

My uncle's gay and I've grown up with the knowledge so have never known it not a "normal" thing. I'm lucky maybe for that because it just was never an issue but in the world of celebrity until it's viewed as a viable and workable way of life it will continue to be of interest.

All of this is easy for me to say - I'm not so haven't actually dealt with it myself. I don't believe because you're gay you have to be some bloody poster boy/girl either and spend your life fighting for rights - you can just be and let the ones that want to do just that. But don't guilt people (ahem BG that's to you again).

[Paper Doll]

It's just a guess but I would say the majority of male leading men in Hollywood are either gay or bisexual and this has always been the case, it's only years later, usually when they die that we find out.

Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, James Dean, Steve McQueen all bisexual for example.

[Fringo]

Originally Posted by Paper Doll

It's just a guess but I would say the majority of male leading men in Hollywood are either gay or bisexual and this has always been the case, it's only years later, usually when they die that we find out.

Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, James Dean, Steve McQueen all bisexual for example.

Paul Newman! Really? I've never heard that before!

[imnotjesus]

Originally Posted by Fringo

I absolutely agree with what you're saying but in another vista - when in the entertainment world it is seen as career suicide it can never be seen as OK unless people do come out. The more it's "out" there the easier it is for it to be accepted.

But I agree - it's not up to us it's up the individual but when it's seen as a dirty secret so it will remain and it's not.

Regardless of your background being open and honest, even if it means losing your family (though normally they actually do come around) to a certain degree, is better for the individual surely. Living a lie is no walk in the park but the more it's hidden the more it's seen as a bad thing. My friend killed himself because he lived this lie - absolutely tragic and I begged him to tell the truth - the fear outweighs the reality sometimes but that's not easy to realise when you're living it.

Having said all that - I can't bear it when out and proud gays (ahem you Boy George) revel in "outing" people because they had the ability to do so and it's the individual's prerogative.

My uncle's gay and I've grown up with the knowledge so have never known it not a "normal" thing. I'm lucky maybe for that because it just was never an issue but in the world of celebrity until it's viewed as a viable and workable way of life it will continue to be of interest.

All of this is easy for me to say - I'm not so haven't actually dealt with it myself. I don't believe because you're gay you have to be some bloody poster boy/girl either and spend your life fighting for rights - you can just be and let the ones that want to do just that. But don't guilt people (ahem BG that's to you again).

Dont you think though that the very "requirement" to announce your sexuality as though its some sort of condition is the bigger part of the problem? If sexual orientation is not important then why do the general public make such a massive issue out having to know?

Personally I think this whole " having to tell everyone your entire personal life for the sake of reducing stigma" is just an excuse for a ton of nosy people to pry into celebrities lives.

Im very sorry for your friend who died. Generally speaking, individuals that suffer from such a severe level of depression in this regard also have severe self-image disorders. I dont think that keeping the secret would have been the sole cause, but rather a symptom of a much deeper issue.

[RussellIan]

It's worth being 'in the closet' these days because at the first molecular whiff of 'fame' that brushes past you, you get the Heat and co toilet paper rags queuing up to pay you thousands for the slightest hints of ambiguity and you can thus make a killing by skilfully imparting a couple of hints at a time.

[DavyBoy60]

From reading the bits of Matthew Horne's interview, I got the impression that he wasn't having a go at those who were closeted (perhaps because they believed that family and friends may reject them if they came out - thankfully mostly an unfounded but understandable fear) or who hadn't accepted their homosexuality but those celebrities who, away from the cameras, were persuing an active gay lifestyle but then wheeled out their 'beards' into the gossip columns and celebrity mags whenever there was a hint that their lifestyle may become public knowledge.

I've seen a few so-called 'straight' celebs gaying it up in some pubs and clubs around Soho only to see so-called 'papped' and spontaneous pictures of them and their 'girlfriends' in the pages of Heat magazine or some-such which were actually very carefully staged, so I can understand where he is coming from.

[Fringo]

Originally Posted by imnotjesus

Dont you think though that the very "requirement" to announce your sexuality as though its some sort of condition is the bigger part of the problem? If sexual orientation is not important then why do the general public make such a massive issue out having to know?

Personally I think this whole " having to tell everyone your entire personal life for the sake of reducing stigma" is just an excuse for a ton of nosy people to pry into celebrities lives.

Im very sorry for your friend who died. Generally speaking, individuals that suffer from such a severe level of depression in this regard also have severe self-image disorders. I dont think that keeping the secret would have been the sole cause, but rather a symptom of a much deeper issue.

You are right of course - it's absolutely of no business of anyones and I totally agree with your arguement but I also think that, at the same time, if it was a more open thing then the bigots could have a new school of thought if it was irrelevant and accepted and seen as virtually "meh". A gay movie star not being able to take his boyfriend to a screening and then paying a woman to go in their place is only doing that for validation of their sexuality and courting publicity.

I know I'm seeing it in a very simple way and it's not a simple debate but the longer people live with beards the longer unacceptance of a community stands.

I repeat it's easy for me to say but I do think it's rather self-perpetuating. The tragedy is that the industries absolutely encourage the cloak and dagger stuff so essentially it's changing them not the people involved.

[Demizdeeroolz]

Originally Posted by jill1812

I remember his character getting a storyline similar, in that everyone thought he was gay, turned out he was straight.

I'd kind of forgotten about that, and also that his character got married

[ellenpagerocks]

Mika for sure, umm I wouldn't be surprised if Ellen Page was gay don't think she's in the closet though more that she's not a fan of labels

[dan44762000]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

I'd say Simon Cowell, but now that he's dating The One, I am not that sure anymore

thats exactlly what he wants you to think..
one born every minute

[xAries_1990x]

Apparently Will I am is.

[Makson]

That guy who is the dj on The Ellen Show. I think his name is Tony..he speaks in a cliched "upper-class" english accent as so many Brits do when they appear on American tv - see Sean Maguire.

[discodolly25]

personally i dont care if people are gay/straight/bi in or out the closet, thats their business as long as its consensual who cares? but i can see where other people come from when they find out or think that someone they're a fan of hides in the closet and has a beard etc, even though its none of anyones business, you couldnt help but feel a bit let down and lied to! i dunno anyone who likes that! whatever anyones reason for not admitting their sexual preference is their business it shouldnt matter who they love/like/are sleeping with!!

i just like guessing who is or who isnt!! its not meant in a malicious way its only a bit of fun!!

[Tulip19]

Originally Posted by DavyBoy60

From reading the bits of Matthew Horne's interview, I got the impression that he wasn't having a go at those who were closeted (perhaps because they believed that family and friends may reject them if they came out - thankfully mostly an unfounded but understandable fear) or who hadn't accepted their homosexuality but those celebrities who, away from the cameras, were persuing an active gay lifestyle but then wheeled out their 'beards' into the gossip columns and celebrity mags whenever there was a hint that their lifestyle may become public knowledge.

I've seen a few so-called 'straight' celebs gaying it up in some pubs and clubs around Soho only to see so-called 'papped' and spontaneous pictures of them and their 'girlfriends' in the pages of Heat magazine or some-such which were actually very carefully staged, so I can understand where he is coming from.

I think I agree with Mat Horne in that case. Any clues to who you've seen?

(Yes, I know I'm just proving the point of the poster who said it was sheer nosiness driving a lot of these discussions )