This is not a new problem - there were posters who's posts were worded as if they were speaking for the majority all through RTDs time with Who, too. The majority of Poppycod's threads spring to mind It's annoying, especially if you disagree with what they are saying, but just take them as the nonsense they are is.

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Personally, there are aspects lacking in this series, but then sometimes series 1-4 didn't hit the spot. Nothing is perfect. I think the majority of this thread has been pretty good at reasonable discussion so far, and I've been reading it with interest. Not seeing a lot of 'moaners' for the sake of moaning in here.

I agree. But what I don't like is posters telling you you aren't a true fan and to stop watching if you don't like it etc.

Isn't it obvious that if that were the case people would just stop watching and never be heard from again, whereas in fact a lot of people posting on this thread feel very sad that they have lost the love they once had for Doctor Who and keep watching in the hope that they will get it back.

For myself, there's more than enough to keep me watching, even though I don't think series 5 is the best thing since sliced bread.

What is lacking.....

Wilf

Or a character of similar depth. I loved his character, it was a great counterbalance to Ten and Donna, he brought a richness and pathos to the episodes he was in

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Moffatt's reign seems small-scale compared to the grand(iose) vision of RTD, with universes and the whole of exostence at stake.

I know! It's great, isn't it?

No, it's actually.. a little dull. I found myself drifting off and bored waiting for it to all happen in the final 5 minutes!
It was a little unlucky that the mining story coincided with the bp oil rig disaster, left me a bit uneasy.

In all fairness , we only got Wilf appearing in 9 episodes out of the whole 50 odd of the new series....thereofre that means that moat of the last five years were alos lacking that same thing that the new series is....




I don't think this new vision is great or rubbish... its just different....


And all fairness the current arc seems quite grand to me....I mean Time itself seems to be the biggest enemy of the Doctor here....and you can't get more grand than Time running out of your hands......

Yes, that did get very dull after awhile. Give me small scale and actually believable any day.


60 episodes in all before Moffat took over. And as you say, wilf was in nine.

I know I wasn't getting drawn in to this thread again, but...

The new vision is undeniably different. It is also great. The previous vision, from which it is undeniably different, was also great. I am not enjoying this series at the expense of the previous 4. Or, for that matter, the 26 that preceded those.

This is what interests me about this season. Perhaps time may never actual begin if the final title is to believed. Time must have started with the Big Bang, before there was nothing. I'm hoping for the Big payoff in the final episodes.

I don't think anything is lacking but the editing may have been a little off at times. Early on Amy seemed to know far to much about the Doctor. In the latest episode there's the odd appearance of the future Amy and Rory. We know from Confidential that this episode had to be shortened considerably. It may turn out to be something to do with the Pandorica opening and the wibbly wobbly timey wimey but it didn't sit well.

I appreciate its your view, but I don't see much justification for the immature comment. This series for me has been much more story based and that is much more mature than things we have had in the past such as flying buses.

Thing is, flying buses appeal to a younger audience. It's all part of the magic of the show. I mean, a Police Box that flies through time and space? Wasn't that just as a bizarre a concept when the show started(and still is i imagine!)

And Rainbow Daleks....they definitely can be seen as something to apeal to kids...colourful collectables...and a great excuse for a PC game

Well I said I would come back on here and say if I'd watched a cracking good episode. Tonight was that episode. It wasn't perfect by any means but a lot of the stuff I thought was lacking from previous episodes were there to see. It was much better paced, the music was right, and more importantly it had me gripped from start to finish.

My only concern now is that after the last good episode I watched, Flesh and Blood, the next episode went downhill again. I really really hope next week's episode is as good as this one and we get some consistency in this series at last.

If it is, then my big humble pie is waiting. I've taken a small slice but the rest of the series needs to be at the standard of this episode if I'm to finish of the pie in style!

What is missing in this season ? Well the superficiality and lack of plotting of the RTD era coupled with the gormless gurning lead role, poorly acted companions, cardboard cut out guest characters and needless repetition.

S5 and Matt Smith have been a breath of fresh air.

Tennant's attempt to crack America, so far, is down the pan as is old fathead RTD.

LOL.

Classy post.....

Well you know how it is Nige...can't make a decent criticism? Lets just go straight to the pointless bashing to prove what kind of person you are rather than the one your are making fun off.

Oh dear. Someone's going to be in the height of trouble from the Tennant fangirls .....

Or people with at least the knowledge to know that its possible to make a criticism about the last five years and praise this series without needed to make nasty comments about someone's appearance, and a bad attampt at poking fun at something which isn't even true...

Moffatt, Smith, Gillan = Doctor Who Lite, compared to RTD's time. Mind you, RTD was a bit heavy.

What are you on about?

I absolutely agree with this. At last, for me, tonight was edge of seat stuff. Nothing lacking AT ALL.

Ha ha, nice joke.

Did you actually watch any RTD episodes?