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Old 21-05-2010, 22:33
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What is it about BBC HD and last episodes?
Recording stopped before the end credits. I'm assured elsewhere I missed nothing, i.e. recording stopped at the very moment the credits were about to roll but it didn't half ruin the moment.
I've got recording end time set to the maximum of 5 minutes so in future I'm just going to have to extend the time manually for finales.
So annoying.
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:03
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What is it about BBC HD and last episodes?
Recording stopped before the end credits. I'm assured elsewhere I missed nothing, i.e. recording stopped at the very moment the credits were about to roll but it didn't half ruin the moment.
I've got recording end time set to the maximum of 5 minutes so in future I'm just going to have to extend the time manually for finales.
So annoying.
Don't know why you had a problem,but I have just checked my recording of this episode and all the closing credits have been recorded.I don't have the recording time set manually.I record from the epg and have never had a problem,with this method.
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:07
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What is it about BBC HD and last episodes?
Recording stopped before the end credits. I'm assured elsewhere I missed nothing, i.e. recording stopped at the very moment the credits were about to roll but it didn't half ruin the moment.
I've got recording end time set to the maximum of 5 minutes so in future I'm just going to have to extend the time manually for finales.
So annoying.
You missed a scene featuring Dixon of Dock Green. There was also a cast listing with pictures just before the credits rolled, due to the omission of the title sequence.
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:15
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Same on my Sky+HD box - stopped just after the noughties copper complained about his iPhone.
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:28
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You missed a scene featuring Dixon of Dock Green. There was also a cast listing with pictures just before the credits rolled, due to the omission of the title sequence.
did you record it or watch live?
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:28
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Don't know why you had a problem,but I have just checked my recording of this episode and all the closing credits have been recorded.I don't have the recording time set manually.I record from the epg and have never had a problem,with this method.
I recorded from the EPG as well (set for the first episode, left to sort itself out thereafter).
You missed a scene featuring Dixon of Dock Green. There was also a cast listing with pictures just before the credits rolled, due to the omission of the title sequence.
I did wonder what people were on about when they were talking about Dixon of Dock Green! But shhh - spoilers!
Same on my Sky+HD box - stopped just after the noughties copper complained about his iPhone.
Exactly where mine ended. BBC HD rather than Humax then.
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Old 21-05-2010, 23:34
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Old 22-05-2010, 06:39
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I recorded from the EPG as well (set for the first episode, left to sort itself out thereafter).
I did wonder what people were on about when they were talking about Dixon of Dock Green! But shhh - spoilers!
Exactly where mine ended. BBC HD rather than Humax then.
If it is BBC HD then it must be a regional problem because the missed parts others have not got have recorded on my Foxsat HDR with no problem.
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Old 22-05-2010, 09:15
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Recorded perfectly on mine from the EPG. London postcode.
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Old 22-05-2010, 10:41
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Recorded no problem BBC-HD on series record. Just deleted series record reservation
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Old 22-05-2010, 11:37
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For those who it recorded ok for, what did you have your recording end time set to? Mine was 5 minutes, maybe Auto came up trumps this time?
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Old 22-05-2010, 11:39
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For those who it recorded ok for, what did you have your recording end time set to? Mine was 5 minutes, maybe Auto came up trumps this time?
Mine was Auto. (BBC HD, London postcode, EPG-obv)
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Old 22-05-2010, 13:19
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Auto absolutely fine here too. Recording shows as 61 min long.
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Old 22-05-2010, 16:08
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used series link (recording time 61 minutes).
I never use manual settings on the 5 main channels as they use the accurate recording facility which doesn't start the recording until the selected programme actually starts and it ends automatically when the programme does.
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Old 22-05-2010, 16:12
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For those who it recorded ok for, what did you have your recording end time set to? Mine was 5 minutes, maybe Auto came up trumps this time?
Set to Auto and no problems with the recording time , just the content of the episode
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Old 22-05-2010, 16:38
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Yes coopermanyorks, it has gone all serious and pretentious in the last three episodes. I was hoping for something funny or witty but this whole (spoilers, spoilers spoilers)





pergatory, cop heaven, cop hell, who is the devil, etc. was just tedious and dragged out. I am dreading the end of Lost too. Both series are a bit like a Jasper Carrot joke; the punchline is weak but the story up to it is hilarious.
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Old 22-05-2010, 16:40
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Heh - so that's another reason to give up on 'accurate record'. Mine was series linked but HDR is set to give a minute's padding before/after and I got almost everything. Recording cut off during the green teletype credits after the voice over.
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Old 22-05-2010, 17:31
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Heh - so that's another reason to give up on 'accurate record'. Mine was series linked but HDR is set to give a minute's padding before/after and I got almost everything. Recording cut off during the green teletype credits after the voice over.
The only problem with accurate record is that a number of channels don't use it,and that is when a recording is likely to stop short.
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Old 22-05-2010, 19:08
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If it is BBC HD then it must be a regional problem because the missed parts others have not got have recorded on my Foxsat HDR with no problem.
There are no BBC-HD regions everyone gets the same transmission on satellite be it using a Sky box, A Freesat box or a generic free to air satellite HD box.. The only difference between a Aky box and a freesat box is that the channel is acccessed from a different epg.
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Old 22-05-2010, 22:06
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The only problem with accurate record is that a number of channels don't use it,and that is when a recording is likely to stop short.
Tell that to the dozens of people who have lost one or more episodes of Lewis and The Prisoner on ITV HD recently.

There is clear evidence that the recordings failed because ITV failed to transmit the correct start/stop signal. In my case when The Prisoner failed it appeared to prevent a recording of CSI:NY at the same time. Presumably that was a box issue resulting from the screw-up but having disabled A/R I've had no further problems when other people still using A/R have done.

I've been running my Sky boxes with no padding for several years because of a bug with those PVRs. I almost never lose anything off the front or end. Certainly never anything of any import.

I'd far rather risk losing credits or the pointless 'in last week's episode' drivel than an entire episode. YMMV but in my experience the number of times when A/R would be beneficial are far, far fewer than the number of times it has screwed up someone's recording.
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Old 22-05-2010, 23:16
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Tell that to the dozens of people who have lost one or more episodes of Lewis and The Prisoner on ITV HD recently.

There is clear evidence that the recordings failed because ITV failed to transmit the correct start/stop signal. In my case when The Prisoner failed it appeared to prevent a recording of CSI:NY at the same time. Presumably that was a box issue resulting from the screw-up but having disabled A/R I've had no further problems when other people still using A/R have done.

I've been running my Sky boxes with no padding for several years because of a bug with those PVRs. I almost never lose anything off the front or end. Certainly never anything of any import.

I'd far rather risk losing credits or the pointless 'in last week's episode' drivel than an entire episode. YMMV but in my experience the number of times when A/R would be beneficial are far, far fewer than the number of times it has screwed up someone's recording.
I am sorry that A/R has caused you problems but I have not had a problem myself.All of my recordings of Lewis recorded successfully as have other programmes that OP's seem to have had problems with.
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Old 23-05-2010, 18:16
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I'd far rather risk losing credits or the pointless 'in last week's episode' drivel than an entire episode. YMMV but in my experience the number of times when A/R would be beneficial are far, far fewer than the number of times it has screwed up someone's recording.
I've had a Humax for around 18 months and I think something like 6-8 recordings have failed (and two of those were episodes of Lewis this month).

I can't say how much of a problem I would have had if I'd just used padding but let's keep some sense of proportion here.

ITV may have screwed one series up but overall AR works extremely well.
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Old 23-05-2010, 18:44
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I've had a Humax for around 18 months and I think something like 6-8 recordings have failed (and two of those were episodes of Lewis this month).

I can't say how much of a problem I would have had if I'd just used padding but let's keep some sense of proportion here.

ITV may have screwed one series up but overall AR works extremely well.
Well said.
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Old 23-05-2010, 19:31
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I can't say how much of a problem I would have had if I'd just used padding but let's keep some sense of proportion here.

ITV may have screwed one series up but overall AR works extremely well.
I'm glad to hear it. However my point remains. The only PVRs I've owned (and I've owned a few) where recordings have failed due to a timing issue have been when they were configured to use A/R or equivalent.

I do like the idea of A/R much as I liked it's predecessor, PDC, but that had its moments as well. For me the percentages just don't add up. Every time a programme is transmitted it puts you at the mercy of the broadcasters. Conversely it is very unusual for a programme to be rescheduled. Even then the Sky PVRs at least will track EPG changes and I hope that the HDR does as well.

This isn't a dig at Freesat or Humax. It's a criticism of broadcasters. They seem incapable of getting their act together. The Freesat platform seems to be very well designed and capable. It's just a shame that the broadcasters fail to use it properly.

Until/unless they can be relied upon to send the right information I will continue to minimise my dependence on them.
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Old 24-05-2010, 08:39
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I have padding of +2m at the beginning and +5m at the end. No issues with Ashes to Ashes or Lewis, only with non updated EPG for programme changes (Heroes on HD due to the snooker, and the BBC 2 repeats, never did get the second half of the last episode).
The only issue is with consecutive programmes on the same channel. the second programme starts at the end of the first recording (Saturdays; CSI followed by Law and Order) though sometimes I'm lucky and it works OK.
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