Originally Posted by TD Chesh:
“How long is the deleted scene?? Cant access it here from work.”
“How long is the deleted scene?? Cant access it here from work.”
2 minutes and 6 seconds, and that includes the Blogtor Who ident at the start.
The Hungry Earth - deleted scene
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Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“Thats the reason BUT that still doesn't tell us why WE can't have hour episodes and sell 45 minute versions abroad.
”
“Thats the reason BUT that still doesn't tell us why WE can't have hour episodes and sell 45 minute versions abroad.
”
Is there a reason, budgetary or otherwise, why this couldn't happen?
I'd really like to know, if anyone can tell me.
I think in most episodes an hour would be better than 45 mins.
Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“Thats the reason BUT that still doesn't tell us why WE can't have hour episodes and sell 45 minute versions abroad.”
“Thats the reason BUT that still doesn't tell us why WE can't have hour episodes and sell 45 minute versions abroad.
”
It would require extra editing, because you'd have to ensure that both versions a) made sense and b) were consistent.
Not impossible, but difficult if you do the story arc, because referencing previous events requires them to exist in both versions (it sounds easy but it is the sort of thing that can screw up).
Certainly the BBC has done this with some shows, such as Spooks. Even if done successfully you then end up with annoyed feedback from the overseas audience who missed something. Though of course it does help in that you can then sell uncut DVD's to the same market.
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Is there a reason, budgetary or otherwise, why this couldn't happen?
I'd really like to know, if anyone can tell me.
I think in most episodes an hour would be better than 45 mins.”
“Is there a reason, budgetary or otherwise, why this couldn't happen?
I'd really like to know, if anyone can tell me.
I think in most episodes an hour would be better than 45 mins.”
Well, look at it this way.
In a 45 min you actually get about 42 min of footage, after you take out titles, last week, next week and credits.
Of that usually you get something like
Teaser 5 mins
Setup 25
Resolution 10
End scene 2
If you have 60 then again you will actually have something like 57
say
Teaser 8 mins
Setup 35
Resolution 12
End scene 2
Special effects are expensive, as are stunts and location filming (because of things like weather, lighting, closing roads, etc).
So the most likely expansion is going to be more dialogue, probably on set. We've already had complaints that this or that episode seemed 'slow'.
Personally I would think it a good idea to make longer episodes (or as an alternative, to make more 2 parters) - as someone said elsewhere a 2x45 is similar to the old 4x25 format.
The one off episode is all a little too predictable, and somewhat like Star Trek - if you know the way that US ad breaks are timed you can set your watch by them!
Originally Posted by aardvark85:
“It would require extra editing, because you'd have to ensure that both versions a) made sense and b) were consistent.
Not impossible, but difficult if you do the story arc, because referencing previous events requires them to exist in both versions (it sounds easy but it is the sort of thing that can screw up).
Certainly the BBC has done this with some shows, such as Spooks. Even if done successfully you then end up with annoyed feedback from the overseas audience who missed something. Though of course it does help in that you can then sell uncut DVD's to the same market.”
“It would require extra editing, because you'd have to ensure that both versions a) made sense and b) were consistent.
Not impossible, but difficult if you do the story arc, because referencing previous events requires them to exist in both versions (it sounds easy but it is the sort of thing that can screw up).
Certainly the BBC has done this with some shows, such as Spooks. Even if done successfully you then end up with annoyed feedback from the overseas audience who missed something. Though of course it does help in that you can then sell uncut DVD's to the same market.
”
Thanks for both replies. Yes, that makes sense.
Originally Posted by aardvark85:
“Well, look at it this way.
In a 45 min you actually get about 42 min of footage, after you take out titles, last week, next week and credits.
Of that usually you get something like
Teaser 5 mins
Setup 25
Resolution 10
End scene 2
If you have 60 then again you will actually have something like 57
say
Teaser 8 mins
Setup 35
Resolution 12
End scene 2
Special effects are expensive, as are stunts and location filming (because of things like weather, lighting, closing roads, etc).
So the most likely expansion is going to be more dialogue, probably on set. We've already had complaints that this or that episode seemed 'slow'.
Personally I would think it a good idea to make longer episodes (or as an alternative, to make more 2 parters) - as someone said elsewhere a 2x45 is similar to the old 4x25 format.
The one off episode is all a little too predictable, and somewhat like Star Trek - if you know the way that US ad breaks are timed you can set your watch by them!”
“Well, look at it this way.
In a 45 min you actually get about 42 min of footage, after you take out titles, last week, next week and credits.
Of that usually you get something like
Teaser 5 mins
Setup 25
Resolution 10
End scene 2
If you have 60 then again you will actually have something like 57
say
Teaser 8 mins
Setup 35
Resolution 12
End scene 2
Special effects are expensive, as are stunts and location filming (because of things like weather, lighting, closing roads, etc).
So the most likely expansion is going to be more dialogue, probably on set. We've already had complaints that this or that episode seemed 'slow'.
Personally I would think it a good idea to make longer episodes (or as an alternative, to make more 2 parters) - as someone said elsewhere a 2x45 is similar to the old 4x25 format.
The one off episode is all a little too predictable, and somewhat like Star Trek - if you know the way that US ad breaks are timed you can set your watch by them!”
interestin stuff thanks
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