Was I the only one absolutely horrified by that?

Of course if time travel were actually possible, and I'm well aware that it isn't and never will be, for very good reasons, any time traveller could do exactly what Amy and Rory apparently did.

Not one of the Doctor's past companions has ever been seen to do that before though, because it throws up so many paradoxes, anomalies and inconsistencies that my head hurts just trying to think about it!

Unless this is explored further and/or explained later in the series, I feel this is a bad error of judgement by the writers.

It was probably intended just to be a throwaway joke, like the library card and the notice on the TARDIS locker, but this nonsense really is going too far! I know it's only fantasy anyway, but it was quite unnecessary.

Well , Rose saw her young self in Fathers day, and we all know what happened there

I'm fairly certain it will be further explored in this story never mind this series.

And horrified? Really? I find kids starving on the streets of London horrifying not a scene in a tv show that may not work for me!

Well, as I do expect some "history rewriting" coming up with the finale, I guess it is just one part of that overall arc.

After all, there is still the notion that th Doctor will be back to visit Amelia, or Amy in the Byzantium forrest, so there might be a clue involved here too.

Fair point, bad choice of word.

As I said, I'm still hoping it will be revisited and explained.
I mean, what happened to the "other" Amy and Rory?
Did they just disappear before things all kicked off, and they weren't caught in the force field?
And wouldn't they have known exactly what was going to happen anyway?!

My brain hurts..........

I put the wrong smilie by mistake, had intened to use as it was a bit tongue in cheek!

Yeah but how come everyone has missed the obvious; They will get stuck inside the force field, so they would meet up with current Amy/Rory.

No offence taken!

Nope, that Force Field was VERY local, pretty much covered drill to church. Future Amy and Rory were a fair distance away and would have known what was to come so they'd only get stuck inside if they wanted to be.

As for the scene itself... it could easily be a throwaway moment but I don't believe that. Confidential talks about how they needed to chop 15 minutes out of the episode and that's, what, 30 seconds or more right there which set up a shot that was cut? Nah, you only keep that if it's going somewhere and notice that both us viewers and the happy couple themselves never see.. uh, themselves, only the Doctor did, so for all we know it's Amy with a Rory/Dalek hybrid on her arm.

Me too. I'm sure that bit has to be significant to the plot.

or a couple of etheric beam locators?

Given that the Doctor in the next time trailer and in the deleted scene seen in DWC says this event is not a fixed point in time it's possible that things turn out in such a way that Amy and Rory are not together in 10 years time.

So we might see the two figures disapear at some point when something changes.

I also think the DS teaser below has something to do with future Amy/Rory.*


*If they really are from 10 years in the future, someone said they were wearing the same clothes current Amy and Rory were wearing. They could be from a few minutes/hours in the future and travelled back for a reason.

I've just looked at the scene on iplayer - I don't think they are wearing the same clothes. Future Rory is wearing a blue jacket and white shirt. Present Rory is wearing a black bomber jacket and a checked shirt. Future Amy appears to be wearing a white blouse and red jacket. Present Amy is in a red jacket and shirt.

Oops!
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I can't believe Moffatt would write such a 'non sequitur' scene and not have it be seen to be eventually relevant....maybe it's keyed into the idea of some events being fixed points which have to happen and he uses it as an example when one of them is lost to show that they must be eventually found...or something....I'll keep my homburg on a low heat just in case I'm wrong.

There was to be more screenplay on the waving bit, however it was inside a cut scene (details found http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1265180 ).

Maybe the bit we saw should have also got cut. I guess we have to wait for part 2 to find out

What, exist in the same time and place as their past self? It happened in Day of the Daleks, Mawdryn Undead and Father's Day.

did seem a totally pointless sene to me.

Possibly because we haven't yet been shown what the point of it was.

Maybe it wasn't a wave of hello, but a wave of be careful/help?

Exactly. I suspect we will see a scene in the finale from the perspective of the 'other' Amy and Rory. Perhaps they weren't waving, but trying to warn The Doctor of something.

It may not be relevant to this story, I'd say it was ordered by Moff himself. Maybe instead of Amy's crack we got its consequence. Although judging by the length of Amy's shorts/skirt we might still get both

Well I think it was quite a clever idea. You have to bear in mind that the scene where amy is swallowed up by the ground could be a bit distressing for younger viewers... So by showing them waving at themselves 10 years in the future then you are basically being told Amy will be okay

It made sense to me as it was the only future time zone thus far that Rory and Amy COULD check up on their past selves, it being 2020 Wales. They're hardly likely to rock up on the Starship UK or the Byzantium are they? I'm sure Rose would have gone to the 2012 Olympics, were she still in our universe.

My memory of the first two is hazy, but I think all of them are very different scenarios to what we've just seen, as are different incarnations of the Doctor meeting each other.
My issue is with companions waiting in "real time" to revisit scenarios that they've already experienced just on a whim, and presumably watching them happen again, which is what we seemed to be seeing here.
I'm sorry but you just don't do that sort of thing in time travel stories. Suspension of disbelief becomes impossible if you do.


Just because it's the only time so far that they could have done it doesn't make it make sense.
Rose waiting in "real time" to see herself and the Doctor saving the 2012 Olympics would be exactly the same, and just as silly.


If it's all rationally explained later I will be delighted.
Perhaps I'm taking this all too seriously, I need a lie down........