How to make a Bad Dog Good???

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2shy2007

27-05-2010

Originally Posted by wilhemina:
“I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the "exercise, exercise, exercise" bit for the reasons stated in my earlier posts. The idea of physical exercise is to ensure that the young dog's body develops correctly & that it gets the RIGHT amount of APPROPRIATE exercise for its age, breed & physical strength. Running a dog on a treadmill until it is physically exhausted is not good for any dog, let alone a 6 month old puppy!!

This is one of the reasons why I don't like CM's methods. It's not "one size fits all" in canine behaviour. Training & behavioural work should be developed for each individual dogs' needs.

Also the physical arousal associated with physical exercise is not conducive to training a dog in new behaviours. We all know how we feel when highly excited after a great game of competitive football or whatever ~ we chatter, we're hyped up, & it can take a while to calm down & start to think rationally again. Imagine how a dog feels when it is hyped up & excited adfter a great game chasing rabbits, then we expect it to immediately become calm, relaxed & go to sleep in social isolation. It doesn't work like that! And then to expect an adolescent male dog of the hyperactive type to do that it just totally unrealistic.

From what the OP has described in terms of exercise & company, it sounds like the young dog is getting plenty of exercise & company. So in this scenario it would be better to concentrate on mental stimulation for this dog, not yet more exercise & physical stimulation.”

Well we will have to agree to disagree then, a tired dog is a happy dog

Our dog loves her exercise, it keeps her calm in the house. She is off over the fields as we speak, retrieving, she loves it and will spend many happy hours doing the job she was meant to do. Of course mental stimulation comes into it, that is why agility would be perfect for the OPs dog. excersice plus the brain stimulation along with it.Oftern exercise is not enough and has to be combined with mental stimulation for some breeds.

I do think that the OPs dog is getting enough exercise by the way, I just like the mantra as a guide.

By the way, rolly eyes come across as a little rude

molliepops

27-05-2010

Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“Well we will have to agree to disagree then, a tired dog is a happy dog Our dog loves her exercise, it keeps her calm in the house. She is off over the fields as we speak, retrieving, she loves it and will spend many happy hours doing the job she was meant to do. Of course mental stimulation comes into it, that is why agility would be perfect for the OPs dog. excersice plus the brain stimulation along with it.Oftern exercise is not enough and has to be combined with mental stimulation for some breeds.

I do think that the OPs dog is getting enough exercise by the way, I just like the mantra as a guide.

By the way, rolly eyes come across as a little rude ”

Surely a tired dog is a tired dog ? A happy dog can be tired or not but constantly tired will just be subdued.
My dogs are not tired all the time but they are still happy and calm in the flat.

Tass

27-05-2010

Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“Err well the AHA has invited him to be involved in Humane Dog Training Symposium that they are setting up

http://www.americanhumane.org/about-...symposium.html”

It was actually only about a dozen signatory organisations to the internationally signed public letter against him.
These were not a dozen separate, independent organisations.
They are very heavily interconnected in terms of ethos, founders and membership, despite being theoretically based in different areas and statements are issued by the committees, not on a basis of a poll of the membership.
There are a lot of politics in dog training and behaviour and often what is being discussed is no more right or wrong than e.g. right and left wing politics is right or wrong, or e.g.smacking or not smacking children is right or wrong but rather a different school of thought with people with very entrenched opinions on both sides, each side convinced their view is the only right one in all situations.
IMO right and wrong depend on ALL the individual circumstances applying at the time.
Significantly when he toured here there were people attending with the aim of catching him out and trying to prosecute him over something but there was nothing they could prosecute over.
I do not agree with all Milan's views and techniques but when his name is mentioned there can be a knee-jerk reaction to throw the baby, the soap, the wash cloth and even the bath itself out, along with the bath water.
Virtually all methods have some good and some bad points to them and as dogs differ so much, the best and most suitable or most humane methods will not only vary from dog to dog but can also vary as the dog progresses through its development and its training.
That is where there is a "Catch 22" situation whereby one needs sufficient expertise to know when, where and how to use each technique but that expertise cannot be acquired by inexpertly or indiscriminately using any technique

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