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crazzyaz7
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by darthbibble:
“That's a great bit in that when locked in a cell the Doctor say's he's going to use the electronic drinks dispenser (or something similar) to get the door open.... cue the next scene where the Doctor is bashing at the door with the machine....”

Oh yes...ofcourse...I remember that bit now!!! Its so Six!!!!

Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“I think that's basically it. Every Doctor has had their detractors and they're generally pretty vocal, they were at the time, but Colin was nowhere near as unpopular as a lot of people seem to believe. If he had been, there wouldn't have been such a huge outcry when the BBC decided to 'rest' the series in 1985, causing them to have to back down on what appears to have been a sneaky attempt at cancelling it (and Colin was very much in the forefront of the campaign to keep it going, which I still believe is partly why they fired him). The one significant group that Doctor Who was deeply unpopular with was BBC management, as it was too popular to drop but really didn't fit in with their overall plans.

It was in early 1985 that they put the show 'on hiatus'. It returned in late '86 after it became obvious they weren't going to be allowed to just not bring it back, so instead they scheduled the 1987 series against the country's most popular soap opera and didn't bother to promote it at all. It still hung on for three more series' though, even with the odds stacked against it.”


Oh 1985! thanks again....It does question the logic that he deserved to be fired when there was so much public support behind him and his campiagn.....

Originally Posted by Listentome:
“That scene is disgusting. It is clearly alluding to the fact that she damaged his willy! That sort of thing does not belong in Doctor Who. Its thanks to scenes like that one that we now get the soft porn stuff like at the end of Flesh and Stone with Amy and Doc11.

I am joking of course. ”

lol

Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“Crazzy, think you had it right first time round!lol!:D

I agree Colin Baker should not have been sacked. I've said previously an another thread that he was treated badly all round. Firstly, as I said in my last post, he was given an awful costume/scripts/debut story by the producer. He seemed to have taken the flack for it's hiatus in 86' and then pushed out of the role by a man who felt the show needed refreshing, but it was his fault the viewing figures fell in Season 23 in the first place. After taking the show of air for 18 months he did a lot of damage to the show's ratings. Colin Baker should not have been blamed for that.

Maybe if JNT had been replaced after Season 22 and the show kept on air, we may have seen Baker in the role for longer. In Season 23, he was such a better, funny and compassionate Doctor. I loved all that stuff about the books with Balazar in The Mysterious Planet. In Mindwarp, aside from what mentioned earlier, I loved all that stuff with Yrcanos and trying to keep him quiet in Episode 4 for that Elder. His reaction to Peri's death was probably the best bit of acting he did in the show. Terror of The Vervoids, the scene where he can't get a word in edgeways as Mel and Lasky talk and then the last two Parts, he finished on a high. His dialogue with both Glitz and Popplewick were really, really funny!

I love the Season 23 Sixth Doctor. If he'd started that way, I'd have had no complaints him following Peter Davison. You'd still have the contrast but not in a negative way. ”

Lol well you would say that!!! But i cannot forgive her covering Peter's face when he was regenerating!!!!

He is definitely a huge contrast to the fifth Doctor, and to an extent I can understand why that may have thrown some people....I mean the first obvious contrast is that one Doctor saves the companions life, and the other tries to strangle her....so it could have been a huge shock for some. I guess it was easier for me watching the show as New Who fan...and delving into different parts of its history without following it in a particular order...so the huge contrasts didn't bug me, it was just part and parcel of that Doctor....its probably similar to the way there is a contrast between Tennant and Smith has been a shock to the system of some (not all)...and yet they are not as different as Davison and Baker were to each other.
tingramretro
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
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Oh 1985! thanks again....It does question the logic that he deserved to be fired when there was so much public support behind him and his campiagn....”

The really disgusting thing is that John Nathan Turner wanted to leave and was told that he'd be allowed to move on but he would have to fire Colin first. JNT reluctantly did as he was told, sacked a man he regarded as a friend, and the BBC then told him he wasn't going to be allowed to move on after all but would have to continue as producer. JNT wasn't treated any more fairly than Colin, and was deeply upset by it all.
tinny
27-05-2010
I hated him as dr who just didnt work for me
bad time for me as a teen anyway , I appreciated Mcgann,Eccleston and Tennant , am appreciating smith but not as much as his stories could be better but Amy rules
Mcgann though would have been a ace dr who if thye just put it back on , ax
Ja88ed
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by tinny:
“Mcgann though would have been a ace dr who”

I agree. I have enjoyed his Radio 7 stories.

I didn't feel Peter Davison or Colin Baker got the stories they deserved.
crazzyaz7
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“The really disgusting thing is that John Nathan Turner wanted to leave and was told that he'd be allowed to move on but he would have to fire Colin first. JNT reluctantly did as he was told, sacked a man he regarded as a friend, and the BBC then told him he wasn't going to be allowed to move on after all but would have to continue as producer. JNT wasn't treated any more fairly than Colin, and was deeply upset by it all.”

Oh yes I had read about that too...shame on the BBC for that! Considering the love and attention they give the show now, and literally worship the ground RTD and Moff walk on...it really is so hard to imagine them putting a producer of Doctor through such a thing!
Ja88ed
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“Oh yes I had read about that too...shame on the BBC for that! Considering the love and attention they give the show now, and literally worship the ground RTD and Moff walk on...it really is so hard to imagine them putting a producer of Doctor through such a thing!”

The difference is that now we have very different management at the BBC. It seems that the new lot brought back Doctor Who just as soon as they could

*waves fist at Michael Grade*
crazzyaz7
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“The difference is that now we have very different management at the BBC. It seems that the new lot brought back Doctor Who just as soon as they could

*waves fist at Michael Grade*”

Do you think most of the new guys/gals management were viewing fans during those not so nice eras? and by not so nice I mean the way the BBC were not so nice....
daveyboy7472
27-05-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“

Lol well you would say that!!! But i cannot forgive her covering Peter's face when he was regenerating!!!!

He is definitely a huge contrast to the fifth Doctor, and to an extent I can understand why that may have thrown some people....I mean the first obvious contrast is that one Doctor saves the companions life, and the other tries to strangle her....so it could have been a huge shock for some. I guess it was easier for me watching the show as New Who fan...and delving into different parts of its history without following it in a particular order...so the huge contrasts didn't bug me, it was just part and parcel of that Doctor....its probably similar to the way there is a contrast between Tennant and Smith has been a shock to the system of some (not all)...and yet they are not as different as Davison and Baker were to each other.”

Was that when he regenerated? Wondered why I missed it!

Seriously, though, it was a real shock for me when he took over. Davison was the first proper Doctor I watched and I was gutted he left after only three years at the time, though now it seems the right decision. When Colin Baker took over, I detested him with a vengeance and similar to what a small minority are now saying about Matt Smith, I wanted him to go after his first Season. I sort of felt this way after his second too but it had mellowed by then. (and it did actually happen!)

Looking back and watching him now, without all that resentment to cloud my judgement, I can clearly see all the good qualities that his Doctor posseses. i still wince everytime I force myself to watch The Twin Dilmemma, but then I think forward when I realise all the good performances are to come and am glad his first story was his worst one in hindsight but it should never have been allowed to stand as his debut story in the first place.
Evil Genius
28-05-2010
Don't forget, Michael Grade & Colin Baker had some negative history outside of the show. That was why he got the axe. Grade made it personal.
crazzyaz7
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“Was that when he regenerated? Wondered why I missed it!

Seriously, though, it was a real shock for me when he took over. Davison was the first proper Doctor I watched and I was gutted he left after only three years at the time, though now it seems the right decision. When Colin Baker took over, I detested him with a vengeance and similar to what a small minority are now saying about Matt Smith, I wanted him to go after his first Season. I sort of felt this way after his second too but it had mellowed by then. (and it did actually happen!)

Looking back and watching him now, without all that resentment to cloud my judgement, I can clearly see all the good qualities that his Doctor posseses. i still wince everytime I force myself to watch The Twin Dilmemma, but then I think forward when I realise all the good performances are to come and am glad his first story was his worst one in hindsight but it should never have been allowed to stand as his debut story in the first place. ”


I'm glad you were eventually able to look at his good points....i guess hindsight is a brilliant thing...

Originally Posted by Evil Genius:
“Don't forget, Michael Grade & Colin Baker had some negative history outside of the show. That was why he got the axe. Grade made it personal.”

Yes I have heard of the controversy behind the scenes too....and if it did really play a big part in Colin's sacking....then seriously it really is such a shame that the likes of Grade are unable to act like a professional...
darthbibble
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by Evil Genius:
“Don't forget, Michael Grade & Colin Baker had some negative history outside of the show. That was why he got the axe. Grade made it personal.”

Was Grade supposedly banging Colin's missus or something?
tingramretro
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by darthbibble:
“Was Grade supposedly banging Colin's missus or something?”

Eloquently put. He was actually involved with Colin's ex-wife Liza Goddard at the time. He had an intesnse personal dislike of Colin. But then, he seems to have had an intense personal dislike of a lot of people.
darthbibble
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Eloquently put”


Privilege of both being dyslexic and having a massive IQ
Ja88ed
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“ But then, he seems to have had an intense personal dislike of a lot of people.”

Well clearly anyone that dislikes Doctor Who is a wrong'un!

tingramretro
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“Well clearly anyone that dislikes Doctor Who is a wrong'un!

”

It wasn't just Doctor Who, he basically hated TV sci-fi of any kind. It was Grade who stopped the third series of The Tripods being produced (the third part of a trilogy!) despite the fact that the first two were very successful in ratings terms. Grade wanted the BBC to produce shows he wanted to watch, and as Controller, he could.
Dai13371
28-05-2010
Colin Baker was a fantastic doctor and I enjoyed his portrayal very much. I also thought he was well within his rights to stick two fingers up at the producers come regeneration and he proved how great a sport he is by appearing in 6th Doctor mode in Top Gear.

I think his "change my dear and it seems..." as being plainly cool. i also think it is a damn crying shame that he never wore the black velvet jacket he wanted and had to make do with Joseph's reject.
crazzyaz7
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by Dai13371:
“Colin Baker was a fantastic doctor and I enjoyed his portrayal very much. I also thought he was well within his rights to stick two fingers up at the producers come regeneration and he proved how great a sport he is by appearing in 6th Doctor mode in Top Gear.

I think his "change my dear and it seems..." as being plainly cool. i also think it is a damn crying shame that he never wore the black velvet jacket he wanted and had to make do with Joseph's reject.”

Oh yeah a black velvet jacket would have suited his darker personality well....although i have to admit that despite being an eyesore and a crime against Time Lord fashion....the multi-coloured coat did kind of suit his absolute mad personlity at the same time....
daveyboy7472
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“Oh yeah a black velvet jacket would have suited his darker personality well....although i have to admit that despite being an eyesore and a crime against Time Lord fashion....the multi-coloured coat did kind of suit his absolute mad personlity at the same time....”

I think if Colin Baker had a more consistent portayal from the off, that coat might well have worked. As I said previously, because of his potrayal in The Twin Dilemma, a lot of people see and think that he was like that the whole way through his time on the show and unfortunately the coat didn't help. Black would have been a cool colour for him I think, though practically anything would have been better than what he ended up with!!!
tinny
28-05-2010
I seen about 6 drs (non medical)

Peter davison-snooty when I mentioned it then reappered later in time crash getting in the role wholely and baldly -good dr

Colin Baker-big man but good mannered and happy to speak to his fans -didnt like him as

Eccleston-good actor but v intense but signed my card -ace dr but too aggressive at times but funny too

Mcoy-nice person very eccntric
-good dr for the horrid scripts , I still hate the one with the house , he got some naff ones


D Tennant-yes I met him and didnt know who he was , early days of his acting career , , it was 1994 and he was friendly -ace dr I think

T Baker- meet him shopping , v eccentric but did the dr well
ax
daveyboy7472
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by tinny:
“I seen about 6 drs (non medical)

Peter davison-snooty when I mentioned it then reappered later in time crash getting in the role wholely and baldly -good dr

Colin Baker-big man but good mannered and happy to speak to his fans -didnt like him as

Eccleston-good actor but v intense but signed my card -ace dr but too aggressive at times but funny too

Mcoy-nice person very eccntric
-good dr for the horrid scripts , I still hate the one with the house , he got some naff ones


D Tennant-yes I met him and didnt know who he was , early days of his acting career , , it was 1994 and he was friendly -ace dr I think

T Baker- meet him shopping , v eccentric but did the dr well
ax”

Don't know if you read the thread on Nicola Bryant a while back but it was mentioned by myself and several others that Colin Baker was good with fans. If you didn't, he got several Who stars out of a room signing autographs once and met us all in the queue that were waiting to get in and signed some autographs there! Top fella!
tingramretro
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by tinny:
“I seen about 6 drs (non medical)

Peter davison-snooty when I mentioned it then reappered later in time crash getting in the role wholely and baldly -good dr

Colin Baker-big man but good mannered and happy to speak to his fans -didnt like him as

Eccleston-good actor but v intense but signed my card -ace dr but too aggressive at times but funny too

Mcoy-nice person very eccntric
-good dr for the horrid scripts , I still hate the one with the house , he got some naff ones


D Tennant-yes I met him and didnt know who he was , early days of his acting career , , it was 1994 and he was friendly -ace dr I think

T Baker- meet him shopping , v eccentric but did the dr well
ax”

You met Tom Baker while shopping? Where does he shop?
capt.shoegazer
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“You met Tom Baker while shopping? Where does he shop?”

I'm guessing it was Threshers
tingramretro
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by capt.shoegazer:
“I'm guessing it was Threshers”

Our Amy is far too virtuous to shop in such an establishment.

Possibly, Tom was following in the footsteps of former Doctor Who Peter Cushing, and buying vegetables in Whitstable.
Face Of Jack
28-05-2010
Back in those grim days of '85, I think it was a combination of two things. By they way, I enjoyed Colin's tenure as the Doctor (apart from that costume!).
1]: Michael Grade certainly hated it - he's admitted it, and he definitely did not like Colin and unprofessionally did what he did, even though it was a personal affair!
2]: BBC were spending all their money in the drama dept. on a new serial called E20 (aka EastEnders) and needed to save money by ousting something. [Think I read that in a DWM at some point]
tingramretro
28-05-2010
Originally Posted by Face Of Jack:
“Back in those grim days of '85, I think it was a combination of two things. By they way, I enjoyed Colin's tenure as the Doctor (apart from that costume!).
1]: Michael Grade certainly hated it - he's admitted it, and he definitely did not like Colin and unprofessionally did what he did, even though it was a personal affair!
2]: BBC were spending all their money in the drama dept. on a new serial called E20 (aka EastEnders) and needed to save money by ousting something. [Think I read that in a DWM at some point]”

Also true. Doctor Who just didn't fit with the direction they were going in. But Grade's influence can't be underestimated.
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