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the rare 60's classics thread
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Barney06
23-01-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“My favourite Cilla record by a mile is the fantastic 'I've Bee Wrong Before' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZK1X-Ll0Q

Randy Newman who wrote the song says it's his all time cover of one of his songs.

Dusty did a nice version too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUAmf...1&feature=fvwp”

Sorry , not for me, thought it was a rather bland record.
JohnnyForget
23-01-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“My favourite Cilla record by a mile is the fantastic 'I've Bee Wrong Before' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZK1X-Ll0Q

Randy Newman who wrote the song says it's his all time cover of one of his songs.

Dusty did a nice version too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUAmf...1&feature=fvwp”

Originally Posted by Barney06:
“Sorry , not for me, thought it was a rather bland record.”

I have to agree with Capablanca and disagree with Barney, that is a fabulous song! And never in a million years did I ever think I'd favour Cilla over Dusty, but for me Cilla's version is the better of the two.
Barney06
23-01-2011
An artist not as well known as Cilla , Maxine Brown with a track from1969 We'll Cry Together, think it is an ignored gem.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGFSOB9z68c
Vabosity
23-01-2011
I’m a huge fan of Dion (with or without the Belmonts), and here are a couple of tracks from him.

I’ve previously been avoiding submitting these tracks as I considered them to be too well known. However, I’ve just checked their chart positions and found that although they were biggish hits they weren’t the massive hits I previously believed them to be.

Also, after regularly contributing to this thread since it began, I’m finally starting to really struggle to find tracks to submit, so you could say that with these two tracks I am now clutching at straws!

Please compare the lyrics of the first song with those of the second song just to see what a hypocrite the singer is!

Dion - Runaround Sue (1961)

Dion - The Wanderer (1962)
mushymanrob
24-01-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“My favourite Cilla record by a mile is the fantastic 'I've Bee Wrong Before' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZK1X-Ll0Q

Randy Newman who wrote the song says it's his all time cover of one of his songs.

Dusty did a nice version too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUAmf...1&feature=fvwp”

Originally Posted by JohnnyForget:
“I have to agree with Capablanca and disagree with Barney, that is a fabulous song! And never in a million years did I ever think I'd favour Cilla over Dusty, but for me Cilla's version is the better of the two.”

LOVE cillas version, i too would never have thought id back cilla over dusty...but in this case i do. the track itself is a beautiful haunting track...

talking of cilla.... heres two more of hers i like

'its for you'... almost james bond style, great 60's sound, thought lennon mccartney wrote it, it could be bacharach/david...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqwUz4RQETg

i think this is great too, the wonderfully ott 'loves just a broken heart'...(1966)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0RhoCplMao
Barney06
24-01-2011
Dusty Springfield's version of probably Cilla Black's most famous song Anyone Who Had A Heart. Think it is a more restrained version than Cilla's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhHfc...eature=related
JohnnyForget
24-01-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“talking of cilla.... heres two more of hers i like

'its for you'... almost james bond style, great 60's sound, thought lennon mccartney wrote it, it could be bacharach/david...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqwUz4RQETg
”

Lennon and McCartney did write it and specifically for Cilla. Terrific song, as were most of those they wrote around that time. I'd go as far as to say that the songs they wrote in the early and mid-sixties were generally superior to the more acclaimed songs they wrote in the late-sixties.


Originally Posted by Barney06:
“Dusty Springfield's version of probably Cilla Black's most famous song Anyone Who Had A Heart. Think it is a more restrained version than Cilla's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhHfc...eature=related”

First time I've heard that version. I really do like it.
Capablanca
24-01-2011
The U.S. psychedelic band H.P.Lovecraft also did a great version of 'I've Been Wrong Before' - unfortunately it's been taken off Youtube by Universal.

Here's a great traditional song they did..
H. P. Lovecraft - Wayfaring Stranger (US 1967)

Here's another trippy number I like...
Ultimate Spinach - Your Head Is Reeling (US 1968)
mushymanrob
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by JohnnyForget:
“Lennon and McCartney did write it and specifically for Cilla. Terrific song, as were most of those they wrote around that time. I'd go as far as to say that the songs they wrote in the early and mid-sixties were generally superior to the more acclaimed songs they wrote in the late-sixties.

.”

i agree...imho they went 'off the boil' after sgt pepper.

i thought they wrote it, but became uncertain as it has that bacharach feel about it...i have the singe on vinyl, but couldnt be bothered to seek it out! lol.
Barney06
26-01-2011
Another Dusty track, this time from her TV show.

Think she really enjoyed singing this song, you can tell by how happy she looks and what fun she seems to be having.

Gonna Build A Mountain - Dusty Springfield


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LssoT...eature=related
Vabosity
26-01-2011
Originally Posted by Vabosity:
“One song that always reminds me of the the Steptoe Theme is the Burt Bacharach / Hal David composition My Little Red Book. The version of this song by the band Love was the first track I ever submitted to this thread. However, if you go back to Page 1 and click on that original link you won't hear any music, instead you'll just see a message saying "This video has been removed by the user.Sorry about that".

So here's another link:-

Love - My Little Red Book (1966)

Yes, I definitely think it's reminiscent of the Steptoe Theme . Does anyone else?”


As I previously pointed out, if you click on the original link to the first ever track I submitted to this thread you'll see a message saying "This video has been removed by the user.Sorry about that".

I have just spent a fair amount of time going through every single post I ever made to this thread just to see how many other tracks are likewise no longer available, and was staggered to discover that there was a grand total of 34 of them!

I have decided that in my next six or seven posts I will provide alternative clips of all those 34 tracks, commencing with the relevant tracks that previously featured in my posts on Page 3 of this thread:-

The Jaynetts - Sally Go Round The Roses (1963)

Jay and the Americans - Living Above Your Head (1966)

Tommy James and the Shondells - Hanky Panky (1966)

Love - She Comes In Colors (1967)


I have only found the time to go through my own posts. I would urge other posters (if they can find the time) to go through their posts and provide alternative clips for any tracks where the original clips are no longer available. It would be a great pity if some of those brilliant tracks that have previously featured are now lost to the thread.
mushymanrob
27-01-2011
i wonder why this is... its not as if its breaking any copywright, surely after nearly 50 years!
JohnnyForget
27-01-2011
It is a bit peculiar. You'd think if publishing companies or whoever wanted to be stroppy they'd remove all the Youtube clips for a particular track, but they just remove one or some of them, in which case Vabosity was able to provide alternative clips in his previous post.
Barney06
27-01-2011
A couple of Mary Wells tracks.

Bye Bye Baby, Have to agree with one of the comments who mentions that Mary's raspy voice is majestic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD4EZOmYRh0

The One Who Really Loves You, just a feel good song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ZSaebUhoE

It's a shame that Mary Wells never had much success after leaving Motown
Capablanca
27-01-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“i wonder why this is... its not as if its breaking any copywright, surely after nearly 50 years!”

Copyright is 50 years (75 years US) so 60's stuff falls into the public domain over this decade.
Flying Dagger
27-01-2011
Originally Posted by JohnnyForget:
“I can't agree with you or Ginger Baker. IMO the worst things Cream ever recorded were overlong blues tracks like "Spoonful" and "Born Under A Bad Sign".

While "Wrapping Paper" is very untypical of the Cream sound and while it certainly is not in the same league as classics like "Sunshine Of Your Love and "White Room", it does have a certain unique charm of its own and I like it for that reason.”

I hope we aren't going to fall out here. Creams version of Spoonful is one of the best blues tracks produced by a British band and is one of their most popular songs. How can you class Born Under a Bad Sign as overlong? On the original Wheels onFire album it's just over 3 minutes long.
mushymanrob
27-01-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“Copyright is 50 years (75 years US) so 60's stuff falls into the public domain over this decade.”

ok thanks.... does that mean loads of cover versions can be released without the artists agreement?...
JohnnyForget
27-01-2011
Originally Posted by Flying Dagger:
“I hope we aren't going to fall out here. Creams version of Spoonful is one of the best blues tracks produced by a British band and is one of their most popular songs. How can you class Born Under a Bad Sign as overlong? On the original Wheels onFire album it's just over 3 minutes long.”

I didn't word my post very well. When I said overlong I was specifically referring to "Spoonful", which I think I would like if it were only about 3 minutes long. You're correct, of course, "Born Under A Bad Sign" is not even remotely overlong, but it just happens to be one of my least favourite Cream tracks.

Oh, and falling out because we have different views about Cream would be silly!
Capablanca
27-01-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“ok thanks.... does that mean loads of cover versions can be released without the artists agreement?...”

Cover versions are to do with music publishing (the songs themselves) which I think has no limit on it.

It's the copyright on the actual recordings themselves that runs for 50 years. You could quite legally make a transfer of records released in 1960 and issue it yourself.

The idea is that big labels usually only reissue recordings that will sell in significant quantities, meaning more obscure recordings could sit in the vaults forever. Smaller labels run by enthusiasts are then given the opportunity to issue old recordings without having to hand over vast amounts of cash to the original label.
mushymanrob
28-01-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“Cover versions are to do with music publishing (the songs themselves) which I think has no limit on it.

It's the copyright on the actual recordings themselves that runs for 50 years. You could quite legally make a transfer of records released in 1960 and issue it yourself.

The idea is that big labels usually only reissue recordings that will sell in significant quantities, meaning more obscure recordings could sit in the vaults forever. Smaller labels run by enthusiasts are then given the opportunity to issue old recordings without having to hand over vast amounts of cash to the original label.”

thanks
mushymanrob
28-01-2011
got this played at last nights pop quiz... (didnt get the artist)

classics iv 'spooky'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUf4F9VXo_s

and this, i recognised the distinctive vocals of eric burdon, but didnt get the track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_VJoDOdJH0

(still won the quiz though! lol)
Capablanca
28-01-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“got this played at last nights pop quiz... (didnt get the artist)

classics iv 'spooky'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUf4F9VXo_s
”

Great track. I always loved their other big US hit called 'Stormy'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Sua_QTDs0

Getting distinctly MOR but 'Traces' is another good song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxpQ...eature=related
Vabosity
28-01-2011
The following tracks first featured in posts that I made to Pages 4 and 5 of this thread. However, the original clips have now been removed from Youtube, so here are some alternative clips.

Petula Clark - Ya Ya Twist (1962)

Pat Boone - Speedy Gonzalez (1962)

Sam Cooke - Little Red Rooster (1963)

Little Anthony and the Imperials - Going Out Of My Head (1964)

Paul Revere and the Raiders - Kicks (1966)
JohnnyForget
28-01-2011
Originally Posted by Vabosity:
“The following tracks first featured in posts that I made to Pages 4 and 5 of this thread. However, the original clips have now been removed from Youtube, so here are some alternative clips.

Petula Clark - Ya Ya Twist (1962)

Pat Boone - Speedy Gonzalez (1962)

Sam Cooke - Little Red Rooster (1963)

Little Anthony and the Imperials - Going Out Of My Head (1964)

Paul Revere and the Raiders - Kicks (1966)”

Oh my! A young Petula Clark singing in French and doing the Twist in a flared dress is so damned sexy!

I love the Stones' version of "Little Red Rooster", but I gotta say that for me Sam's version definitely has the edge. What a fantastic track! What an artist!
Mike_1101
30-01-2011
Originally Posted by JohnnyForget:
“Oh my! A young Petula Clark singing in French and doing the Twist in a flared dress is so damned sexy!

I love the Stones' version of "Little Red Rooster", but I gotta say that for me Sam's version definitely has the edge. What a fantastic track! What an artist!”

You may have missed this one I put on before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxdWJQ7t2k
Petula Clark - "Les Gens Diront"
I have this on a Pye single from 1961 - arranged & conducted by Peter Knight who later helped the Moody Blues with "Days of Future Past". I think he also did some BBC shows.

Another song from 1961, in my collection but not on YouTube
The Dale Sisters "My Sunday Baby" released on the small Ember label. The label states "An Iver Recording", whichever production company that was (?). It only reached no. 36.

According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dale_Sisters they really were three sisters who had some success between 1961-63.
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