I see with the I pad that apple are using Micro sims for the I pad, and no doubt with the new I phone coming out that will be as well.

Now has anyone thought that this is going to cause problems, as I brought my I phone outright and put my contract sim into it, which I know a lot of people do this. But if anyone buys a new I phone coming out soon,you wont be able to put your contract sim into it, as the new I phone will be micro sims. So that means you will only be able to use the sim that comes with the phone ?

Or maybe you can just walk into your networks shop and tell them you need a micro sim with your number and they will give it you? I don't see what the problem is to be honest, the networks will make sure you can use new phones. The alternative is they won't let you transfer your number to the new sim and lose money from people when they start leaving :P which option do you think their going to choose?

And its easy to cut down your SIM to Micro size. So a bit of a non-problem really.

As KIIS102 said you will be able to walk into a network shop or phone them up and ask them, and then they will give you a mico sim.

you can order a free o2 microsim here

orange and vodafone also sell the iPad so will also have stocks of the sims.

If the next generation iPhone also uses a microsim then i guess you would be limited to these three networks until the others catch up and also offer them

Why are apple going for a non standard sim anyway? Even if it is possible to cut yours down or request one

Maybe to try and stop people unlocking the iPad?

So even thou I have a contract sim registed to a satio, and I have put that in my I phone, Orange will let me have a micro sim card, and transer my sim that registed to my satio and transfer it to a micro sim for the new I phone ????

In theory, yes. They will not move you to a sim only deal if you are still in contract with them though. I also know Orange have special iPad plans, so they may try and force you to change your tarrif.

You can cut your SIM card down to fit, I've done to my standard Orange SIM to work with my phone that only accept micro SIM cards.

Instructions here

http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...cro-sim-681020

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EiEkbQyVEY

What current phones take the micro sim ?

Like people have said - all the major networks are going to have them or you could simply cut a regular SIM. Nothing to do with trying to prevent unlocking - more to do with not needing as much space for the sim slot etc. Not a deal breaker for the iPad but more worthwhile for smaller devices (iPhone).

I think it's got nothing to do with size and EVERYTHING to do with Apple and its network providers wanting to force you to take out a new 3G contract.

Nonsence, this isn't an Apple format it's a replacement for the current Mini SIM which in turn was a replacement for the SIM. I bet it won't be long before we see companies like HTC using this simply because it's smaller.

It might not be developed by them, but they are the only manufacturer to use them so far. This fits in with their ethos of using proprietary or little used connectors in order to cream off the profit of making you buy expensive adapters to make the ports usable.

Apple are always quick to use new connecters, iMacs done away with PS/2 connectors years ago in favor of USB way before anyone else did. Also it's very cheap and easy to convert a Mini SIM to a Micro SIM and vice verse using adapters and cutters from third party vendors, there is no conspiracy here...

This is nothing to do with Apple's profit. I imagine MicroSIMs will become the de facto standard before long. The fact that you can cut an ordinary SIM with a pair of scissors and make it into a MicroSIM just highlights how wasteful they are of mostly plastic. Let's not forget the earliest SIM's were credit card size.

Did Apple ever use PS/2? I thought they used their highly proprietary ADB. Along with ADC for displays. Something replicated today with the use of mini Displayport, not exactly common on anything outside of Apple. They also use weird and wonderful (patented) power connectors, presumably so you have to buy their power supply with their markup, and what's the deal with doing away with line-in on their laptops in favour of a single jack for headphones+mic?

The difference between going to USB and using microSIMs is staggering. One is a standard that was going to become more established whether Apple liked it or not, the other will probably remain a niche for years to come.

MicroSIM is a standard just like MiniSIM and wont take long to overtake it IMO just like what happened with the standard SIM.

The difference between the standard SIM and a miniSIM is staggering. The difference between mini and micro, not so much.

Don't be so sure. HTC and others aren't quite as obsessed as Apple are with looks and how thin it is. My Desire is marginally thicker than the iPhone 4 yet manages to have both a miniSIM slot and microSD.

When it comes to portable tech it's always a good thing to save space where you can. It might not seem a lot of room that you save but considering the entire SIM assembly within the phone, it's enough to make room for other components to be re-arranged allowing for things like a much bigger battery.

The Desire is physically much larger phone which gives it an advantage yet battery life seems to be a big problem.

Other manufacturers would be silly not to take advantage of potential extra space.