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Formula 1 Series Link Error
Andrue
29-05-2010
FYI - the F1 series link appears to have gone straight to the race and skipped qualy. Probably not a major issue but it might be worth checking your boxes tomorrow.

I'd guess it's a BBC screw-up. At first I thought maybe my HDR had picked up bad habits from my 9200T but no. The entry is sat in the schedule for tomorrow.

FWIW - I use padding rather than accurate record.

A last question - the HDR doesn't seem to support instant record - is that correct? I had to fire up my Sky HD box and record it on that instead.
gomezz
29-05-2010
If you mean the Humax Foxsat HDR then yes it *does* support instant record. Just press the Record button.
Jepson
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“A last question - the HDR doesn't seem to support instant record - is that correct? I had to fire up my Sky HD box and record it on that instead.”

Yes, of course you can instant record.

You seem to be having a rather unusually difficult time with your Humax with lots of problems, each one of which requires you to revert to you sky HD box and then come here and tell us about it.

Looking at the list of equipment in your services and the time you've been a member of this site (and you've been on the Freesat+ forum at least since I came here), it seems extremely strange that you need to ask how to perform one of the most basic functions the Humax is capable of.
gomezz
29-05-2010
To be fair, I just tried to start an instant record on my Foxsat and it does seem to be more a sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't thing. Took three goes before I could see it was actually recording. The feedback is atrocious, you are never sure it has worked or not until you go into the schedule and have a look for the active recording.
Flyer 10
29-05-2010
It was ok here on BBC London.
germanycalling
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“ The feedback is atrocious, you are never sure it has worked or not until you go into the schedule and have a look for the active recording.”

This might help. Just press the "i" button. You should see the channel(s) recording in the top left corner with a red clock indicating how far the recording has progressed. Then exit to get rid of it.
Andrue
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“If you mean the Humax Foxsat HDR then yes it *does* support instant record. Just press the Record button.”

Strange - it ignored me when I tried that. Pressing [Ok] just took me to the channel of course.
grahamlthompson
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“Strange - it ignored me when I tried that. Pressing [Ok] just took me to the channel of course.”

Instant record works while viewing the channel not while viewing the epg. So from the epg it's OK then the record button. If you press a 2nd time you can change the recording duration from it's default of the end of the existing programme. Same procedure works in non-freesat mode
Andrue
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“Yes, of course you can instant record.

You seem to be having a rather unusually difficult time with your Humax with lots of problems, each one of which requires you to revert to you sky HD box and then come here and tell us about it.”

This is the first time I've had to revert to my Sky HD box for anything.

The handful of issues I've experienced have all been attributable to the broadcaster or else trivial. In fact not being able to instant record is something I'd regard as trivial because I so very, very rarely want to do that.

So get off your soap box and calm down. If there's one thing that might lead me to be critical of the HDR it's fanbois like you jumping down my throat for no reason.
Andrue
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Instant record works while viewing the channel not while viewing the epg. So from the epg it's OK then the record button. If you press a 2nd time you can change the recording duration from it's default of the end of the existing programme. Same procedure works in non-freesat mode”

Cool. Well thanks for the constructive responses anyway. I guess if I'd had time to muck about I might have got it to work but it was quicker and simpler to go the Sky route.

At the risk of getting another flaming from the resident fanboi i might suggest Humax improve that aspect of their UI if/when they release another version of it. With Sky [Record] means do it now - no matter where you press it and you get immediate feedback.

Gosh. An aspect of Sky's EPG that is actually better than the HDRs. Tbh that's a rarity. The only other one I can think of is the blesséd [Opt+] key. In all other respects it's miles ahead of Sky.

As for the series link oddity - I'm on BBC Oxford so I suppose it could be a regional thing. It's still strange though. It's definitely on series link and definitely only created a timer for the race.
grahamlthompson
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“Cool. Well thanks for the constructive responses anyway. I guess if I'd had time to muck about I might have got it to work but it was quicker and simpler to go the Sky route.

At the risk of getting another flaming from the resident fanboi i might suggest Humax improve that aspect of their UI if/when they release another version of it. With Sky [Record] means do it now - no matter where you press it and you get immediate feedback.

Gosh. An aspect of Sky's EPG that is actually better than the HDRs. Tbh that's a rarity. The only other one I can think of is the blesséd [Opt+] key. In all other respects it's miles ahead of Sky.

As for the series link oddity - I'm on BBC Oxford so I suppose it could be a regional thing. It's still strange though. It's definitely on series link and definitely only created a timer for the race.”

It's a fair point, I have seen this one before. Sky users expect the epg to start an instant recording from the epg for any channel that the programme has already started. As you know know the hdr at least will only schedule future recordings from the epg. Not sure but it may be a Freesat+ spec thing rather than a Humax implementation.

Did you know that you can display a programmes series and prog crid codes in prog info by turning on an option in one of the secret menus. Using this you can easily see what will be included in a series recording reservation

Enter the diagnostics menu, then press RED GREEN YELLOW BLUE GREEN YELLOW Blue in succession.

Any programme carrying the same series crid and a different prog crid should be treated as a seperate episode
richard_g_uk
29-05-2010
My F1 series link was fine and recorded the qualifying (BBC 1 W Mids).
Andrue
29-05-2010
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Enter the diagnostics menu, then press RED GREEN YELLOW BLUE GREEN YELLOW Blue in succession.

Any programme carrying the same series crid and a different prog crid should be treated as a seperate episode”

Interesting. I've made a note of that one.
alan1302
30-05-2010
I actually wish on my Sky + the race and qualifying were seperate as I only want to record the race on series link and not record the qualifying.
Andrue
30-05-2010
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“I actually wish on my Sky + the race and qualifying were seperate as I only want to record the race on series link and not record the qualifying.”

Heh - Tbh I think the qualy will be more exciting than the race. Mind you that's true at too many circuits these days
tellyman55
30-05-2010
Mine missed qualy as well in London!
germanycalling
25-06-2010
F1 Race (European) has changed channels from BBC1 to BBC2 on Sunday. This seems to be because BBC have suddenly acquired the rights to show a certain World Cup match on Sunday. I wonder why? I checked my scheduled recording and have discovered I would have recorded Eastenders which is not quite what I wanted. Please check your schedules too!
stanandjan
25-06-2010
BUT why check schedules at all
I did so on Budget Day and found that Jan's Soap was changed to 'Review of Budget' in the Series Record..
I thought .."That's nice.. I'll watch that later to get up to date"..Silly ME
Later that night.. I switched on the 'REVIEW' and saw..[And there had been no power cuts]
'Rcording Failed Unknown Reason'..
How can i trust anything/anyone again that LIES to me ..so blatantly?

Stan
richard_g_uk
25-06-2010
Its very annoying that the BBC don't set it up a series linked event when they move the race or qualifying to BBC2. As far as I am aware the same SERIES CRID can be used across different channels.
richard_g_uk
25-06-2010
Originally Posted by germanycalling:
“F1 Race (European) has changed channels from BBC1 to BBC2 on Sunday. This seems to be because BBC have suddenly acquired the rights to show a certain World Cup match on Sunday. I wonder why? I checked my scheduled recording and have discovered I would have recorded Eastenders which is not quite what I wanted. Please check your schedules too!”

I think this is linked to the problem I noticed in this thread http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1283538

Have you successfully managed to set a recording for the race? As you can see from my thread I appear to still have a clash even though I have only one recording scheduled during the F1 race
germanycalling
25-06-2010
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“Have you successfully managed to set a recording for the race? As you can see from my thread I appear to still have a clash even though I have only one recording scheduled during the F1 race ”

Yes, i re-requested it. However I am using a London postcode. That might make a difference. From the depths of my memory I think Graham posted some tip about this a few weeks ago. I can't check as I'm at work but I think the fix was to request the recording on 977 or whatever the channel number is rather than 101 or 102.
REPASSAC
25-06-2010
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“It's a fair point, I have seen this one before. Sky users expect the epg to start an instant recording from the epg for any channel that the programme has already started. As you know know the hdr at least will only schedule future recordings from the epg. Not sure but it may be a Freesat+ spec thing rather than a Humax implementation.

Did you know that you can display a programmes series and prog crid codes in prog info by turning on an option in one of the secret menus. Using this you can easily see what will be included in a series recording reservation

Enter the diagnostics menu, then press RED GREEN YELLOW BLUE GREEN YELLOW Blue in succession.

Any programme carrying the same series crid and a different prog crid should be treated as a seperate episode”

My wife has been having problems with "Food Network" It records both the "Food Network" and the "Food Network+1"
every day.

It has a Series CRID by no program CRID which I surpose is as specified - [Same Series Crid - Different Program Crid] I don't surpose the free sat specs say what to do in this situation but I would suggest to limit recodings to the same channel.
GaseousClay
25-06-2010
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“It has a Series CRID by no program CRID which I surpose is as specified - [Same Series Crid - Different Program Crid] I don't surpose the free sat specs say what to do in this situation but I would suggest to limit recodings to the same channel.”

Before a recent firmware update programmes with just a series CRID wouldn't record at all. Humax modified the boxes to overcome the problem of broadcasters failing to include all crid data and it appears that this is the compromise we have to put up with.

Note to Broadcasters:- transmit both crids
tellyman55
28-06-2010
Originally Posted by germanycalling:
“F1 Race (European) has changed channels from BBC1 to BBC2 on Sunday. This seems to be because BBC have suddenly acquired the rights to show a certain World Cup match on Sunday. I wonder why? I checked my scheduled recording and have discovered I would have recorded Eastenders which is not quite what I wanted. Please check your schedules too!”

Guess who didn't check because I hadn't been on the forums for a few days! Annoyed or what...caught the last 10 Laps.

Graham
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