Welcome to the forum, jimmylad.


Are you sure you heard that correctly? It's not something I've heard anyone say on-air and even so I'm not sure how that can be the case - they definitely have two games in their usual slots, but I don't see what a third game could be.

I know there are two Sunday 3pm games (Liverpool v Albion and Sunderland v Manchester City), but I believe the terms of the contracts state that all Sunday games kicking off at 3pm or later come under 5 Live's jurisdiction.

According to the talkSPORT Predictor (which lists all live talkSPORT games as correct predictions on those ones count for double points), their commentary games next weekend will be Manchester United v West Ham (Saturday 5.30pm) and Bolton v Birmingham City (Sunday 1.30pm).


It's been said on-air a few times this evening that Sam Matterface and Stan Collymore will be doing the commentary on this game for talkSPORT.

This opposes what we heard earlier in the week, where Nigel Pearson mentioned in his blog that he'd be doing commentary in the absence of Sam.

Seeing as Sam seems to be working out his notice at Sky Sports News and has been presenting his last few shifts on there over the past few days, I'm guessing what may have happened is that he was initially down to work for them on Sunday morning/lunchtime (as he did last weekend) but has somehow gotten out of this, enabling him to do talkSPORT's first exclusive Sunday 1.30pm Premier League commentary.

BBC Radio Wales

Cardiff City plus Craig Bellamy V Doncaster Rovers - Steffan Garerro (host). Commentary from Rob Phillips and Ian Walsh (SE FM / DigitalTV/Radio). Dave Penney working for BBC Radio Sheffield and was interviewed by Steffan about Craig Bellamy.

Norwich City V Jackland - Ian Hunt and Jeremy Goss (SW FM)
Eastbourne Borough V Wrexham - Phil Steele and Jason Perry (North FM / Online)
Newport County V Histon - James Pontin
Carmarthen Town V Aibus UK - Jeremy Davies
European Tour Golf, Czech Open - Nick Dye

BBC Radio Cymru

Cardiff City V Doncaster Rovers - Eleri Sion (host) commentary from Gareth Blainey and Osian Roberts
Norwich City V Jackland - Iwan Roberts (who now has a Burger Van named after him)
Eastbourne Borough V Wrexham - No one
Newport County V Histon - Idrys Charles
Carmarthen Town V Airbus UK - Owain Llyr
England V Pakistan (Cricket 3rd test) - Gareth Rhys Owen (studio host)
Ospreys V Gloucester (RU friendly) - Alun Jenkins

BBC Bristol /Somerset

Geoff Twentymann host

Bristol City V Barnsley - Richard Hoskin and Adam Baker (1548MW)
Exeter City V Bristol Rovers - Rob Scanlon and Keith Brookman (94.9FM / 104.6FM / 1566MW / DAB - part commentary)
Yeovil Town V Hartlepool United - Chris Spittles and Chris Sweet (Western Gazette) (95.5FM)
Bath City V York City - Pete Simson and Andrew Kerslake (Bath Chronicle) (Online)

Real Radio South Wales

Cardiff City V Doncaster Rovers - Mark Poyser and David Giles
Norwich City V Jackland - Steve Flemming
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Radio Leeds will not do commentary on Leeds United. Instead, they'll provide as much coverage as they can. That consists of four half-minute reports per half (four minutes of coverage over the ninety minutes).

When Leeds United are away, usually the coverage will be from the ground. The team will talk about anything that isn't the match in progress.

When Leeds United are at home, Radio Leeds can only cross to the ground when providing the reports (described above). The studio presenter will talk and play interviews to fill time. This will also be the case if an away ground imposes those restrictions, as Millwall did last season. Build-up and postmatch will come live from the Peacock pub when Leeds United are at home.

When all three local teams are playing, Radio Leeds provides Leeds United coverage on 103.9 FM. The coverage was also online, but Leeds United put a stop to that. Leeds United coverage is on AM and DAB when Bradford City aren't playing, though that may not be the case next week due to the Challenge Cup final.

I'm not sure what will happen on Tuesday night. Leeds United may be on all FM frequencies even though there will only be coverage of their match. I don't think that would be fair, because Radio Leeds can provide commentary on Bradford City. Huddersfield Town play the following night. They play Southend United on Friday night instead of Saturday, because the police will be busy on Saturday containing EDL and UAF demonstrations in Bradford.

As Radio Leeds can broadcast FA Cup matches, should all three West Yorkshire teams play 3rd round matches at the same time, I presume that Leeds United will be on FM, Huddersfield Town will be on AM, and Bradford City will be on DAB (extended commentary), and on AM (reports. It could get complicated if a non league team is thrown into the equasion. All matches should presumably be online because the BBC can broadcast FA Cup matches online.

Now that Leeds United are in the Championship, they will not play a team from West Yorkshire in the league. However, if they draw a local team in the League or FA cups, they will probably do a neutral commentary, unless Leeds United give them permission to do a biased commentary. The Leeds United commentary will be on FM, and the opposing team's commentary will be on AM and presumably DAB.


I heard it too. Remember they only did one match last week, and there may be other weeks when they only do one match. It'll all balance itself out.

BBC Radio Wales

Cardiff City plus Craig Bellamy V Doncaster Rovers - Steffan Garerro (host). Commentary from Rob Phillips and Ian Walsh (SE FM / DigitalTV/Radio). Dave Penney working for BBC Radio Sheffield and was interviewed by Steffan about Craig Bellamy.

Norwich City V Jackland - Ian Hunt and Jeremy Goss (SW FM)
Eastbourne Borough V Wrexham - Phil Steele and Jason Perry (North FM / Online)
Newport County V Histon - James Pontin
Carmarthen Town V Aibus UK - Jeremy Davies
European Tour Golf, Czech Open - Nick Dye[/quote]

Don't Radio Wales have a frequency for Newport like Real Radio? If so, surely it could be used for the Newport matches?


In this case, the BBC are already doing commentary, so it should be available on the Bath transmitter imo.

Real Radio South Wales

Cardiff City V Doncaster Rovers - Mark Poyser and David Giles[/quote]

Were they doing commentary?

Don't Radio Wales have a frequency for Newport like Real Radio? If so, surely it could be used for the Newport matches?



In this case, the BBC are already doing commentary, so it should be available on the Bath transmitter imo.

Real Radio South Wales

Cardiff City V Doncaster Rovers - Mark Poyser and David Giles[/quote]

Were they doing commentary?[/quote]

Thanks for your detailed reply to my query. I would just like to add that Radio Leeds did do full commentary today for the home game against Millwall (ko 12.30pm). Five live had full commentary too as did Yorkshire Radio. So here in Yorkshire we were spoilt for choice. I will be interested to see if the TV hightlights have radio commentary and from which BBC station.

Yes 103.9, but no opt-out studio (*I think*) or a specific commentator I believe.



I'm guessing it's getting people used to only being able to listen to it online when the Rugby Union season starts again, unless they decide to re use the DAB signal as a separate feed again.




Nope, just updates. I only catch the 2.30pm-ish report on Real Radio, but there's a distinct lack of IRN/Sky News Radio reporters used nowadays as well.

Never understand why BBC Bristol don't use the 1548 frequency for
the away Bristol team,and have the FM frequencies for the Home Bristol team.
The 1548 frequency travels further than the 94:9 frequency.
Regarding the Bath 104:6,I think BBC Bristol could use this transmitter for Bath City games.
Be interesting to see what happens this 28th August weekend
as regards to radio commentary
Cheltenham home to Burton and Forest green home to Bath City

BBC Gloucestershire seem to be inconsistent in Cheltenhams home games for radio commentary and BBC Gloucestershire might pick the Forest green v Bath City game.
BBC Gloucestshire might even have both games broadcast
Cheltenham on 104:7 and Forest green on 1413.
Which could means that Bath City followers could listen to commentary on BBC Gloucestershire while Bath City listen to the commentary on line.
As a by-line the Blue square league will be broadcasting twelve live televised games over the course of this coming season.

I heard a bit of Sam and Stan on talkSPORT last night and I agree with the positive comments they've had on here. They sound like they've been working together along time.

Sam Matterface definitely said that talkSPORT would have commentary next Sunday on Bolton v Birmingham immediately followed by Liverpool v WBA.

According to the Press Office site, next Sunday 5 Live will have full commentary on Sunderland v Man City at 3pm followed by the second half of Aston Villa v Everton.

If all that is correct then the stations will be going head-to-head with live commentary.

Cheers


Very interesting, their website lists two games next weekend, but I swear they said they'd have two live games on the Sunday (one of which I just assumed would be the 16.00 kick-off) plus a Saturday evening game.


I've only ever known local radio stations put the home team on MW when they are covering two teams. Radio Newcastle always do it and when Metro Radio used to do commentaries they'd also put the home team on Magic 1152 if both teams were playing.

Obviously Real Radio took over from Metro (who'd been dong it for longer than I care to remember, yet suddenly decided they were no longer interested), and they have two FM frequencies one for the North: 101.8 (Newcastle games), and one for the South: 100.7 (Sunderland games). At my parents house I can get both frequencies very clear, but interestingly where I live now I get nothing on 100.7, which would be a shame for Sunderland fans, although there aren't many in this area.

Sunderland games, yet never United ones, are also always on DAB for both local stations if the two teams clash. This is interesting as when Metro stopped doing games, there was such a huge outcry that they got a last minute deal and brought back commentaries from the second game of the season onwards, but for Magic 1152 only, with United games always on DAB both teams clashed. I assumed this was to give Sunderland fans a commercial analogue alternative to Radio Newcastle, as Real Radio had picked up Newcastle rights.

The following season Magic stopped all commentaries and Real Radio picked up the Sunderland rights after ditching Middlesbrough commentaries (who BBC Tees now cover exclusively) for whom they'd been their original radio partner I think.

Thanks for clearing that up, it's interesting and good news. I didn't get the chance to listen to talkSPORT much yesterday so evidently that passed me by.

Positively, it seems as if the Premier League are happy to be flexible and to allow talkSPORT to do presumably the second choice of the Sunday 3pm kick-offs which have been rescheduled due to the Europa League.

We know these games technically come under 5 Live's jurisdiction, but with 5 Live and Sports Extra doing Sunderland v Manchester City (3pm) and Aston Villa v Everton (4pm), Liverpool v Albion would have otherwise been left without national radio coverage.

Clearly, the Premier League feel that it is better to have this game covered nationally with a commentary somewhere rather than none at all, and so have allowed talkSPORT to do this game - possibly as one of their 32 live 1.30pm commentaries, or maybe as a bonus game.

On the subject of talkSPORT doing two games in a Sunday, positive news about their coverage of the Second City Derby on October 31st.

Earlier in the week, talkSPORT's OB Manager Matt Smith Tweeted:


A few of us on here had wondered if they'd be doing commentary on this 12noon Sunday kick-off rather than/as well as the 1.30pm TV game between Liverpool v Bolton on that day, and despite the talkSPORT website saying otherwise, now both Stan Collymore and Villa Matt have Tweeted that they'll be doing this game.

Given what'll be happening next Sunday, what I can see happening on October 31st is that it'll be full commentary on Villa v Blues with Nigel Pearson/Ian Danter and Stan, with them then joining Liverpool v Bolton with Sam Matterface and Alvin Martin about 15/20 minutes in, followed by Call Collymore at 4pm.

Going back to today, well it looks like Adrian Durham's information from yesterday was wrong - it's Nigel Pearson and Stan Collymore on commentary duty at St James' Park for talkSPORT.

Sunday 22nd August - talkSPORT

Alan Brazil presenting Sunday Exclusive alongside Neil Warnock, followed by Call Collymore from St James' Park

Premier League
Newcastle United v Aston Villa - Nigel Pearson and Stan Collymore (commentary), with Graham Courtney at pitchside
Fulham v Manchester United - Andy Clarke

Championship
Middlesbrough v Sheffield United - John Temple

Scottish Premier League
Hibernian v Rangers - Mark Donaldson


BBC WM

Daz Hale presenting WM Sport from St James' Park

Premier League
Newcastle United v Aston Villa - Mike Taylor and Daz Hale (commentary)


BRMB

Tom Ross presenting The Goalzone from St James' Park

Premier League
Newcastle United v Aston Villa - Tom Ross and Pat Heard (commentary)

BBC Radio Scotland, 22/8/10

Hibernian v Rangers (12.15) - David Begg, Craig Paterson and Billy Dodds (810MW commentary), with Chick Young pitchside
Celtic v St Mirren - John Barnes and Murdo MacLeod (810MW commentary) with Chris McLaughlin pitchside
Dundee Utd v Inverness CT - Jim Spence and Steve Cowan (online commentary)
Kilmarnock v Motherwell - Alisdair Lamont and Des McKeown (online commentary)

Cowdenbeath v Queen of the South - Sandra Brown

5 Live

With Colin Murray

Middlesbrough v Sheff Utd - John Murray & Michael Gray (commentary)

Newcastle v Aston Villa - Ian Brown & Kevin Gallacher
Fulham v Man Utd - Nigel Adderley, Graham Taylor & Mike Ingham (commentary)

Hibernian v Rangers - Roddy Forsyth
Celtic v St Mirren - Iain Turner

Strange given the number of commentators that 5 Live have that John Murray is on his own today. (Unless someone pulled out late of course)

Despite not having commentary rights to Newcastle v Villa they were able to crossover for commentary on Villa's penalty and had commentary on Newcastle's third because they happened to be there for an update.

I had heard John Temple would be reporting from the Riverside for talkSPORT this afternoon, but there have been no updates from there at all.

It's not as if they're ignoring the game, as Nigel and Alan had been giving regular updates on the match, but unusually there have been no reports from an individual match reporter at the game.

I'm guessing their lack of reports might be due to a technical issue at the Riverside or because of something else at John's end, and they haven't decided to/been able to sort out someone to cover the game off-tube at short notice.

For the record, Alan Brazil has chipped in to offer his thoughts from the studio very occasionally during the commentary today, which is similar to what 5 Live do during England internationals but with far less frequency.

I've really enjoyed listening to Nigel and Stan this afternoon - great to hear Nige back commentating on football.

BBC Radio Sheffield
host: Paul Walker
commentators: Seph Bennett and Paul Walker
summariser: Keith Edwards

A pattern seems to be forming with talkSPORT's live Premier League commentaries!

Game 1: Chelsea 6-0 West Brom
Game 2: Wigan 0-6 Chelsea
Game 3: Newcastle 6-0 Aston Villa

Next weekend, Manchester United v West Ham (Saturday 17:30), Bolton v Birmingham (Sunday 13:30) and Liverpool v West Brom (Sunday 15:00).

Another 18 goals?

I imagine it'll be Matterface and Collymore on the game at Anfield which allows Stan to present his phone-in between 17:00-18:00.

BBC London 94.9
Fulham v Man Utd Nick Godwin and Clive Walker (commentary)


Newstalk 106
Newcastle v Aston Villa Dave McFarlane and Paddy Mulligan (commentary)
Fulham v Man Utd Des Curran and Johnny McDonald (commentary)


IRN
Newcastle v Villa Dave Donaldson
Fulham v Man Utd Russell Hargreaves
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Absolute Radio will broadcast commentary of Chelsea v Stoke next Saturday at 15:00.

Ian Brown was meant to be at 'Boro today so something happened to the guy who was meant to be doing the Newcastle game

Radio Leeds should be doing full commentary on Leeds v Leicester on Tuesday night (KO 7.45). This is a Carling Cup game so BBC are allowed full commentary rights.

Colin Murray finished at 4pm so Nigel Adderley presented at half time of Fulham and Man Utd and at the end of the game he threw it over to 606 with Adil Ray and Steve Claridge tonight.

I notice Tom Ross did the Villa commentary, I'm lead to believe he's a Birmingham City fan and I know he did the the commentary on Saturday (just heard the podcast), does he often do Villa commentaries, don't they have a usual commentator to cover then week in week out?

Newcastle won 6-0, just got back from the town, probably had too much to drink after the match!

Back in the days before Ken Bates and Yorkshire Radio, it used to be Leeds United on all FM frequencies and either Huddersfield or Bradford on AM with frequent reports from the other match.

However since Radio Leeds moved to its new studios they've gained the facility to opt out DAB and online separately and also opt out the Beecroft Hill 103.9 transmitter, so it might be different now. Hopefully they would take account of the fact that reception of 774AM is crap in most of Huddersfield

Tom is indeed a Bluenose, but as he is the long-time lynchpin of BRMB's football coverage he also has strong ties with the Villa.

As it happens, he said on the Friday Football Phone-In that this weekend marked the 30th anniversary of the first game he ever reported on for BRMB.

As such he is the dominant figure over their football broadcasts. He presents coverage of virtually every live game they air and will commentate on every stand-alone match he can make, be it for BRMB, Beacon, Mercia or Gold now that the Orion Media group's football coverage is networked.

On afternoons when most (or at least more than one) of Orion's five clubs are playing, he'll most probably be commentating on whichever one of Villa or Blues are being covered live on BRMB. If neither are playing, but the other three teams are, then he'll most likely be doing commentary on West Bromwich Albion.

For Wolves, it's usually Bill Hatton and Robbie Dennison on the commentary - unless Villa, Blues and Albion are not playing, then it'll be Tom and Robbie.

With Coventry, it's generally Joe Holt and Dave Bennett - unless none of the other four Orion clubs are playing, then it'll be Tom and Dave.

On Albion matches, it'll usually be either Mikey Burrows or Nathan Alleyne with Tony 'Bomber' Brown - unless neither of the Birmingham clubs are playing, then it'll be Tom and Bomber.

If Tom is doing Aston Villa (usually with Pat Heard), then Mikey or Nathan will most probably commentate on Birmingham (generally with Jon McCarthy) if they are playing on the same day, and vice versa.

I hope that clearly things up Jimmy.

That does indeed clear things up, in the North East, both stations use the same commentators for one each team week in week out. I think some Newcastle fans would officially complain if a Sunderland fan commentated on one of their games or vice versa, but if it works for the West Midlands then so be it.

Do you think Newcastle fans would complain if Chris Cooper commentated on their matches? He's not a Sunderland fan. When he worked for the Pulse, though he usually commentated on Bradford City, he would also do Huddersfield Town matches, particularly in 1996-1997, and 2000-2001.

Paul Ogden has commentated on Leeds United matches for Radio Leeds before when they were in the Premier League.

Also, Paul Walker and Seph Bennett are (I'm sure) both Sheffield Wednesday fans. Keith Edwards said the latter was an Owl when Sheffield United played Leeds United or Liverpool in the Carling Cup (2002-2003). I know Wednesday and United fans have accused the two of being biased against their clubs before, an accusation which really winds up Seph Bennett.