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Radio Football Commentators and Reporters 2010/11
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The Difference
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by RobinCarmody:
“Didn't Century Radio (as was) do Boro commentaries on its relevant frequency regularly a few years back, before leaving them to the Beeb?”

I believe Century had commentary rights to Middlesborough matches from either 1994 or 1995 until 2007.

According to Wiki, they started off by holding exclusive Middlesbrough radio rights with their initial team including Dave Roberts (now ESPN USA), Ali Brownlee and Malcolm Allison. Roberts left for Talk Radio in 1997 and Allison was replaced by Bernie Slaven by the end of the 90s.

Brownlee and Slaven continued as Century's Boro commentary duo right the way through until the point they lost the rights - winning a New York Radio Award for their commentaries on Boro's run to the UEFA Cup Final in 2005/06.

I think it was just before the 2007/08 season started that Century lost Boro rights, with Brownlee moving directly to BBC Tees (where he started his career as a reporter in the 1980s) and replacing Paul Addison as their Boro commentator. Slaven stayed with Century and to this day remains as Real Radio's Middlesbrough pundit on their Three Legends Phone-In.

Originally Posted by jimmylad:
“Maybe someone else has more details on TFM's coverage over the years.”

Not that I would have ever been in the position to listen to TFM's football coverage back then, but I'm sure it must have been very strong in the early 1990s.

At one point TFM boasted both John Murray and Jim Proudfoot - now the two regular football commentators for Saturday afternoon 3pm kick-offs on national radio - working on their sports coverage.

In 1994, Murray left TFM to join BBC Radio Cleveland (as was) and Proudfoot joined Capital Gold in London. That same year Dave Roberts was appointed Century Radio's sports editor, so I guess that must have been when Middlesbrough's commercial radio rights switched from TFM to Century.
RobinCarmody
08-11-2010
Indeed. Century launched at the start of the 1994/95 football season (part of that first wave of regional stations that also included the birth of Heart in the West Midlands), so I dare say they wanted Boro commentary rights to get off to a strong start and instantly establish their name, just as they got Man Utd rights when they launched in the north-west four years later, and hopefully get fans tuning over for the football and staying for the music. Also, it would have been about then that many heritage commercial stations, such as TFM, were moving towards a straight Top 40 format and becoming less interested in football, at least outside the very strongest football areas.
The Difference
08-11-2010
Thanks for the dating that Robin. I'm not sure if Century North-East started doing Middlesbrough commentaries from the off as Century 105.4FM did with Manchester United or if they landed the rights from the following season onwards.

Dave Roberts' amazingly detailed Wikipedia entry says he spent five months working in Malta after agreeing to join Century before returning to the station as sports editor and bringing in Ali Brownlee from BBC Radio Cleveland.

That could have been in either 1994 or 1995, unfortunately it doesn't date his return to the North-East.

Seeing as John Murray's BBC biography says that he left TFM for BBC Radio Cleveland in 1994 and then left Cleveland for 5 Live the following year, this suggests that TFM ended their coverage at the end of the 1993/94 season, Radio Cleveland either had Boro exclusivity or shared coverage with Century (as BBC GMR did with Century in their first season of covering Manchester United games) in 94/95 and then Century brought exclusive rights to Boro games for 95/96 onwards - hence why Murray moved on so quickly.

By 1998, both Murray and Jim Proudfoot had gone from covering Middlesbrough to commentating on France 98 for the BBC and Capital Gold respectively - clearly TFM's bosses at the time were good at recognising talent.
jimmylad
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“His programme on TFM concluded after the 2007/08 season, although as of last season Winter's post-match programme serving Darlington and Hartlepool was being broadcast on Local Radio Company station 103.2 Alpha Radio.”

Do they ever do live commentaries?

Originally Posted by The Difference:
“In 1994, Murray left TFM to join BBC Radio Cleveland (as was) and Proudfoot joined Capital Gold in London. That same year Dave Roberts was appointed Century Radio's sports editor, so I guess that must have been when Middlesbrough's commercial radio rights switched from TFM to Century.”

Thanks for that information, I never knew TFM had ever had Boro rights.

Originally Posted by RobinCarmody:
“Indeed. Century launched at the start of the 1994/95 football season (part of that first wave of regional stations that also included the birth of Heart in the West Midlands), so I dare say they wanted Boro commentary rights to get off to a strong start and instantly establish their name, just as they got Man Utd rights when they launched in the north-west four years later, and hopefully get fans tuning over for the football and staying for the music. Also, it would have been about then that many heritage commercial stations, such as TFM, were moving towards a straight Top 40 format and becoming less interested in football, at least outside the very strongest football areas.”

I vaguely remember for a short while Century doing Newcastle commentaries alongside Metro. I also remember listening to a Boro match in the car as a kid (don't know why cos I support Newcastle and me mam doesn't like football) and me mam saying one of the commentators was the Boro chairman. I found it hard t believe, and now know this clearly wouldn't have been the case, but me mam does know very little about football so I'll let her off!
RobinCarmody
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by jimmylad:
“Thanks for that information, I never knew TFM had ever had Boro rights.”

When they were Radio Tees, most ILR stations did local sport along with plenty of other things - though there was obviously more coverage in the bigger football areas.
The Difference
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by jimmylad:
“Thanks for that information, I never knew TFM had ever had Boro rights.”

I'm not sure if they had commentary rights to Boro or just covered them with reports only in the early 90s, I've not actually seen anything that confirms this one way or the other.

Having a football commentary pairing of John Murray and Jim Proudfoot, for my money two of the very best commentators around today, sounds immense on paper but bear in mind they were both radio rookies at the time - it was Murray's first job in radio and Proudfoot's second after a spell at DevonAir.
Shrewn
09-11-2010
I *think* TFM did commentary on the promotion and top flight seasons in the early 90's when Lennie Lawrence was at the helm. David Mills was part of their commentary team
rigs4
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by Shrewn:
“I *think* TFM did commentary on the promotion and top flight seasons in the early 90's when Lennie Lawrence was at the helm. David Mills was part of their commentary team”

You're right about that. As a Boro fan I remmeber having the choice of Alastair Brownlee, Gordon Cox and Harold Shepherdson (later Gary Gill) on BBC Radio Cleveland or John Murray and David Mills on TFM. I think after John Murray left for the BBC Mick Lowes had a season doing Boro commentary on TFM but I can't be sure.
The Difference
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by rigs4:
“I think after John Murray left for the BBC Mick Lowes had a season doing Boro commentary on TFM but I can't be sure.”

Judging by this thread, I make you right.

Mick Lowes left BBC Radio Newcastle in 1993 (having joined them a few years earlier from Capital Gold in London, where he was Jonathan Pearce's first deputy) and would have taken over as TFM's commentator after John Murray departed. I guess his season covering Middlesbrough would have been 94/95.

Around this time Metro FM, TFM and what was Great North Radio (which became Magic AM at the turn of the century) were all owned by the Metro Radio Group and would have had commentary rights to all three of the North-East's biggest clubs.

At the time Graham Courtney (now talkSPORT) would have been their Newcastle United commentator and Guy Mowbray (BBC TV) was their Sunderland commentator. Metro's sports producer was the late Jim Brown, who went onto become talkSPORT's Outside Broadcast manager during its TWG ownership years and was the driving force behind their coverage of Euro 2000 and various England cricket tours.

Courtney swapped his role as Metro FM's News and Sports Editor for the same position at TFM in 1995, though continued as Metro's Newcastle reporter for another year, so I guess at this point Lowes must have moved in the other direction to become Magpies commentator and the commercial radio rights to Middlesbrough would have shifted from TFM to Century around this time.

In 1996, Courtney left TFM to become Newcastle United's press officer - famously being the man who announced Kevin Keegan's resignation to the world - before going freelance in 2000. In 2003/04, he replaced the Singapore-bound Dave Roberts as talkSPORT's North-East football correspondent.

Mowbray left Metro in 1999 (by now he'd commentated on the final of France 98 for Eurosport) to join ITV and Lowes left to rejoin BBC Newcastle in 2002.

Metro and Magic eventually pulled the plug on their football commentaries at the end of the 2004/05 season, with their final commentary teams being Justin Lockwood and Mick Martin covering Newcastle and Simon Crabtree and Gary Rowell covering Sunderland.
The Difference
09-11-2010
To bring us up to the present day of commercial radio football coverage in the North-East...

Although BBC Radio Newcastle had exclusivity over local radio commentaries to the two clubs, Metro FM and Magic 1152 continued to provide reports from Newcastle and Sunderland games in 2005/06 and for at least part of 2006/07 before ending their football coverage entirely.

According to his Wikipedia article, Pete Graves reported on Newcastle games with Mick Martin for Metro during those two seasons. He took over from Justin Lockwood and would eventually be replaced by Roger Tames (of Tyne Tees TV fame) after his depature to Century in February 2007.

Simon Crabtree - who got into trouble for a joke in his programme column before a Sunderland v Newcastle game - and Gary Rowell stuck around for those two seasons to do Sunderland updates for Metro.

At some point in 2006/07, Century North-East won rights to Newcastle United games to sit alongside their Middlesbrough commentaries with Ali Brownlee and Bernie Slaven, with Graves and Bobby Moncur being their Magpies commentary team.

Then in 2007/08, Century ditched Middlesbrough commentaries - leaving them to BBC Tees, who've had exclusivity over them ever since - in favour of picking up the rights to newly-promoted Sunderland.

Crabtree and Rowell were Century's initial Sunderland commentary team at the start of their run, but by October 2007 Crabbers had been ditched in favour of Roger Tames, who covered most of that season for them.

Chris Cooper - who had been the sports editor of Century 105.4FM in the North-West, who'd lost Manchester United commentary rights to Key 103 the season before - then became their Sunderland commentator in 2008/09.

At the end of that season, Pete Graves departed as their Newcastle commentator to go full-time on Sky Sports News, by which point the station had been rebranded as Real Radio Northeast.

Since 2009/10, Real Radio's commentary teams have been Justin Lockwood and Bobby Moncur on Newcastle and Chris Cooper and Gary Rowell on Sunderland, with Malcolm Macdonald, Micky Horswill and Bernie Slaven being their "Three Legends".

Finally, a quote from this Middlesbrough fans forum thread bemoaning the fact that Century had dropped commentary rights to their club seems to confirm that they first started doing Boro commentaries back in the 1995/96 season.
JOHN HASTINGS
09-11-2010
As I mentioned a couple weeks back, when BBC Radio Cleveland lost Middlesbrough commentaries to Century from 1995 to 2001, they used to take BBC Radio Newcastle commentary whenever Boro played Sunderland and/or Newcastle United.
The Difference
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by JOHN HASTINGS:
“As I mentioned a couple weeks back, when BBC Radio Cleveland lost Middlesbrough commentaries to Century from 1995 to 2001, they used to take BBC Radio Newcastle commentary whenever Boro played Sunderland and/or Newcastle United.”

Ta for that John. So it would have been BBC Radio Cleveland and TFM sharing Middlesbrough commentary rights up until the end of 1994/95, with Century having exclusivity over them from 95/96 to 00/01.

Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but the years of Century's exclusivity over Middlesbrough rights mirrors that of BRMB and Xtra AM's exclusivity over the local radio commentaries of Aston Villa, Birmingham City and West Bromwich Albion, give or take a year or two.

I believe BRMB starting doing exclusive commentaries in the 1993/94 season with Tom Ross and Ian Crocker (George Gavin had just left to Radio 5 Live). They retained exclusivity to those clubs until around the turn of the century, although I can't pinpoint the season when WM finally won the rights back.

By 2002/03 and 2003/04, even then there was still exclusive deals being made between West Midland clubs and their local stations - I believe BBC WM had exclusive rights to Aston Villa and shared rights to Wolves (with 107.7 The Wolf) during those seasons; while BRMB and Capital Gold Birmingham had exclusivity over Birmingham and West Brom; with both stations sharing commentary rights to Walsall.

Of course this came to an end in 2004/05, when GCap withdrew from football commentaries across the board, leaving BRMB to persevere with reports and music for their one season away from commentaries, allowing WM to seal exclusive commentary deals with all five clubs on their patch.

The first time I ever listened to a game on BRMB was that first Second City Derby in the Premier League back in 2002/03 - with the first of the two derbies taking place at St Andrew's, WM didn't have the rights to that game so it was only on 96.4FM. I can't remember who the summarisers were from each club but as ever Tom Ross was on commentary. Their coverage that night sticks in my mind as they had a pitchside reporter (I'm pretty sure it was Ian Danter) who got audibly mobbed by the Blues fans after THAT Peter Enckelman own goal.
jimmylad
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“To bring us up to the present day of commercial radio football coverage in the North-East...

Although BBC Radio Newcastle had exclusivity over local radio commentaries to the two clubs, Metro FM and Magic 1152 continued to provide reports from Newcastle and Sunderland games in 2005/06 and for at least part of 2006/07 before ending their football coverage entirely.

According to his Wikipedia article, Pete Graves reported on Newcastle games with Mick Martin for Metro during those two seasons. He took over from Justin Lockwood and would eventually be replaced by Roger Tames (of Tyne Tees TV fame) after his depature to Century in February 2007.

Simon Crabtree - who got into trouble for a joke in his programme column before a Sunderland v Newcastle game - and Gary Rowell stuck around for those two seasons to do Sunderland updates for Metro.

At some point in 2006/07, Century North-East won rights to Newcastle United games to sit alongside their Middlesbrough commentaries with Ali Brownlee and Bernie Slaven, with Graves and Bobby Moncur being their Magpies commentary team.

Then in 2007/08, Century ditched Middlesbrough commentaries - leaving them to BBC Tees, who've had exclusivity over them ever since - in favour of picking up the rights to newly-promoted Sunderland.

Crabtree and Rowell were Century's initial Sunderland commentary team at the start of their run, but by October 2007 Crabbers had been ditched in favour of Roger Tames, who covered most of that season for them.

Chris Cooper - who had been the sports editor of Century 105.4FM in the North-West, who'd lost Manchester United commentary rights to Key 103 the season before - then became their Sunderland commentator in 2008/09.

At the end of that season, Pete Graves departed as their Newcastle commentator to go full-time on Sky Sports News, by which point the station had been rebranded as Real Radio Northeast.

Since 2009/10, Real Radio's commentary teams have been Justin Lockwood and Bobby Moncur on Newcastle and Chris Cooper and Gary Rowell on Sunderland, with Malcolm Macdonald, Micky Horswill and Bernie Slaven being their "Three Legends".

Finally, a quote from this Middlesbrough fans forum thread bemoaning the fact that Century had dropped commentary rights to their club seems to confirm that they first started doing Boro commentaries back in the 1995/96 season.”

Just clear this up, the last season that both Metro and Magic did commentaries, was 2004-2005. At the beginning of the 2005-2006 season, there was a huge outcry about Metro ditching their commentaries, so about two games into the season I think it was, the commentaries returned, but on Magic only, with Newcastle on DAB when both teams played simultaneously.

For the following season 2006-2007 Century picked up the Newcastle rights with Magic still covering them along with Sunderland, In 2007-2008, Century ditched the Middlesbrough rights and picked up the Sunderland ones, whilst obviously keeping the Newcastle ones.

So BBC Newcastle never had exclusive rights during this period (apart from the odd game, an InterToto Cup match in particular sticks out from my memory). Going off memory I only remember one season of Magic only commentaries after being ditched by Metro, but I am certain for one season, Newcastle commentaries could be heard, on BBC Newcastle, Magic, and century, so looking at the timescales, they must of had two seasons of commentary, as I am certain Metro didn't do any commentaries in 2005-2006 and by my reckoning, Century's Newcastle commentaries didn't start until 2006-2007.
Stuart S.
09-11-2010
BBC Radio Scotland - Tuesday 9th November 2010

Sportsound presented by Richard Gordon live from Pittodrie

Aberdeen v. Inverness CT - Scott Davie, Billy Dodds & Jim Leighton with Jim Spence pitchside
The Difference
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by jimmylad:
“Just clear this up, the last season that both Metro and Magic did commentaries, was 2004-2005. At the beginning of the 2005-2006 season, there was a huge outcry about Metro ditching their commentaries, so about two games into the season I think it was, the commentaries returned, but on Magic only, with Newcastle on DAB when both teams played simultaneously.

For the following season 2006-2007 Century picked up the Newcastle rights with Magic still covering them along with Sunderland, In 2007-2008, Century ditched the Middlesbrough rights and picked up the Sunderland ones, whilst obviously keeping the Newcastle ones.

So BBC Newcastle never had exclusive rights during this period (apart from the odd game, an InterToto Cup match in particular sticks out from my memory). Going off memory I only remember one season of Magic only commentaries after being ditched by Metro, but I am certain for one season, Newcastle commentaries could be heard, on BBC Newcastle, Magic, and century, so looking at the timescales, they must of had two seasons of commentary, as I am certain Metro didn't do any commentaries in 2005-2006 and by my reckoning, Century's Newcastle commentaries didn't start until 2006-2007.”

Thanks for correcting me Jimmy.

BBC Newcastle's "exclusivity" in 2005/06, as described in that Newcastle Chronicle article I linked to in an earlier message, must have been exclusivity by default due to Metro and Magic pulling out, before they made a hasty u-turn to renew their deals just a few months later.

I guess Century coming in for both teams gave EMAP (now Bauer Radio), who owned the stations by that point, the scope to pull the plug on their coverage but it's interesting to know that they hung around for a few more seasons.
The Difference
09-11-2010
Tuesday 9th November - talkSPORT

Mark Saggers presenting Kick-Off alongside Alvin Martin

Premier League
Stoke City v Birmingham City - Ian Danter
Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland - Mike Bovill

Championship
Burnley v Doncaster Rovers - Dave Rowe
Crystal Palace v Watford - Tony Incenzo
Ipswich Town v Derby County - Andy Clarke
Leeds United v Hull City - Graham Courtney
Millwall v Norwich City - John Anderson
Nottingham Forest v Coventry City - Geoff Peters
Portsmouth v Queens Park Rangers - Sam Matterface
Preston North End v Barnsley - Graham Beecroft
Scunthorpe United v Middlesbrough - John Temple


BBC WM

Mark Regan presenting The Football Phone-In from The Mailbox, followed by Richard Wilford with WM Sport from the Britannia Stadium

Premier League
Stoke City v Birmingham City - Mike Taylor and Richard Wilford (commentary)


BRMB and Mercia

Tom Ross presenting The Goalzone from the Britannia Stadium

Premier League
Stoke City v Birmingham City - Tom Ross and Jon McCarthy (BRMB commentary)

Championship
Nottingham Forest v Coventry City - Joe Holt and Dave Bennett (Mercia commentary)
4-4-2
09-11-2010
BBC Radio 5 Live

Premier League
Stoke v Birmingham - Pat Murphy
Tottenham v Sunderland - Mark Chapman presenting, with Ian Dennis, Darren Fletcher and Steve Claridge (commentary)

Championship
Nottingham Forest v Coventry - Conor McNamara (with Nigel Adderley and Martin Alleon on 5 Live Sports Extra commentary)
Crystal Palace v Watford - Steve May
Millwall v Norwich - Simon Mann
Portsmouth v QPR - Russell Fuller
Scunthorpe v Middlesbrough - Peter Slater
Ipswich v Derby - John Hunt
Andy Rimmer
09-11-2010
Tuesday 9th November 2010

BBC Stoke
Stoke v Birmingham: John Acres (1-22), Nigel Johnson (23-45) & Nigel Gleghorn (FM Commentary)
Carlisle v Crewe (JP Trophy QF): Graham McGarry & Trevor Griffiths (AM/DAB Commentary)

BBC Lancashire
Preston v Barnsley: Andy Bayes & Ian Bryson (Commentary)
Burnley v Doncaster: Scott Reid & David Eyres (Updates)
Fleetwood v Gateshead: Richard Marsh (Updates)

BBC Merseyside
Bury v Tranmere (JP Trophy QF): Derek Jones (Updates)
wns_195
09-11-2010
In 2000-2001, some Huddersfield Town matcheswere were broadcast on Big AM and Radio Leeds, as well asHome 107.9, the only station with full commentary on every match. All three stations had commentary on the club's last match in Division 1. Until Bradford City banned stations from covering home matches in 2008-2009, BCB, the Pulse and Radio Leeds all provided commentary on them.


BBC Radio Leeds
Rotherham United verses Huddersfield Town
commentators: Adam Pope and Paul Ogden
summariser: Kieran O'Regan
Leeds United verses Hull City
reporter: Dave Callahan


Yorkshire Radio (DAB), official Leeds United website, and Minster FM)
Leeds United verses Hull City
host: Michael Weadock
commentator: Tom Kirwin
summariser: Eddie Gray


BBC Radio York AM
host: Sharon Shortle
Blyth Spartans verses Harrogate Town
commentator: Mark Wilson


BBC Radio Humberside
host: David Burns

Cambridge United verses Grimsby Town (AM, DAB and online)
commentator: Mike White
summariser: George Kerr

(FM)
Leeds United verses Hull City
commentator: David Burns
summariser: Peter Swan
Scunthorpe United verses Cardiff City
reporter: Gwylym Lloyd


BBC Radio Sheffield
host: Paul Walker
Burnley verses Doncaster Rovers
commentators: Seth Bennett Paul Walker
summariser: Dave Penny
Preston North End verses Barnsley
reporter: Adam Oxley
Rotherham United verses Huddersfield Town
reporter: Steve Crossman
IanFergus
09-11-2010
BBC London 94.9
Host Phil Parry
Tottenham v Sunderland Nick Godwin and Bradley Allen (DAB commentary)
Crystal Palace v Watford Kevin Hand
Millwall v Norwich Andrea Warth
Portsmouth v QPR Phil Parry and Clive Walker (FM commentary)
Southend v Charlton Dave Victor
Mark.
09-11-2010
BBC Radio Scotland, 9/11/10

Aberdeen v Inverness CT - Scott Davie and Billy Dodds (810MW commentary)
Ian Cleverly
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“BBC Radio Humberside
host: David Burns

Scunthorpe United verses Cardiff City
reporter: Gwylym Lloyd”

Everybody back on the bus - We've gone to the wrong ground

(Cardiff play Reading tomorrow, and Scunthorpe United on Saturday)
JOHN HASTINGS
09-11-2010
BBC Cumbria

Matchnight - Presented by James Phillips

Johnstones Paint Trophy (Northern Section) Quarter Final
Carlisle United v Crewe Alexandra
Commentary - James Phillips & Jeff Thorpe (FM)

Lancashire Trophy
Southport v Barrow
Commentary - Andy Wood & Russell Dodd (AM & Online)

Lancashire Trophy
Kendal Town v Clitheroe
Reports - Gary Woodruff

Blue Square North
Workington v Guiseley
Reports - John Walsh
(Commentary would have been provided on AM but for reasons beyond BBC Cumbria's control)


Since the tragic, sudden loss of Derek Lacey last year, James Phillips has done a brilliant job for BBC Radio Cumbria.
IanFergus
09-11-2010
Great to hear info about BBC Cumbria. Thanks, John H. When I lived in Scotland, I used to pick up BBC Radio Carlisle/Cumbria on AM. I am stretching my memory somewhat but was the Carlisle commentator David Lamb in the 1970s? I know Nick Barnes was there before going to BBC Radio Newcastle to cover Sunderland
Mark.
09-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“BBC Radio Scotland, 9/11/10

Aberdeen v Inverness CT - Scott Davie and Billy Dodds (810MW commentary)”

Jim Spence pitchside.
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