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last nights artists
a1councilexchan
03-06-2010
did anyone cath the name of the artist who does the hous sitting portraits?
superboy
03-06-2010
Jill Slightlystrangeandcompletelytalentless
milmol
03-06-2010
Lol that was so bizarre. Kirsty couldn't get out of there fast enough. Pity we didn't see the other team with her for their reaction as well. Don't think even Zoe could have claimed to be able to identify with that!
Agent Krycek
03-06-2010
That was so weird, I go to other people's houses, wear their clothes, pretend to be them, get someone else to take my photograph and then call it art

Had visions of friends of hers sitting at home with a complete expression on their faces as they realise what she's been doing in their houses
milmol
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“That was so weird, I go to other people's houses, wear their clothes, pretend to be them, get someone else to take my photograph and then call it art

Had visions of friends of hers sitting at home with a complete expression on their faces as they realise what she's been doing in their houses”

I didn't even realise they were friends ! I thought they were strangers ... like getting a professional 'house sitter' out of the yellow pages or off the internet, you hire them, go on holiday and your mates are saying "god how could you get a stranger in your house like that, she could be trying your stuff on or anything" and you say "ah, don't over-react, its just a business - as if anyone would do that!" Then your study, cat and best dress turn up in a photo on The Apprentice
cartree
03-06-2010
Tim's reaction to that was priceless
UnrealityTV
03-06-2010
That was all just so wrong.

I wonder what last night's national TV coverage will do for her photography career? "Oh yes, you're the really creepy one. Come on in, here's my keys."

Not.
lordo350
03-06-2010
Lord Sugar chose her as well, didn't he? No wonder she couldn't get out fast enough! I'd have legged it too! Not only is it creepy beyond belief how the hell is dressing up in clothing and taking pictures of it art? People actually make money from that rubbish?
CXC3000
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by superboy:
“Jill Slightlystrangeandcompletelytalentless”

Lol !
Suburbanqueen
03-06-2010
I wouldn't have given ny of them houseroom.............

The abstracts which cost thousands.........wtf?? I'm not surprised she only sold 3 or 4 a year. Amazed that she sold any ! The photos were pleasant enough I suppose ! But hardly high art......

What a pretentious, silly lot they all were.
a1councilexchan
03-06-2010
Jessica Layton, I found it, i agree unless she has permission from the owners what a cheek!
junglejuice
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by cartree:
“Tim's reaction to that was priceless ”

Yes, it was hilarious

Sadly, his only highlight :sleep:

The creepy house sitter had to be a set up just to see if anyone went for it surely? She didn't even take the photos ffs!
a1councilexchan
03-06-2010
http://www.artslant.com/lon/artists/...on?tab=PROFILE


shes genuine, and been doing it for a while it seems
Tercet2
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by a1councilexchan:
“http://www.artslant.com/lon/artists/...on?tab=PROFILE


shes genuine, and been doing it for a while it seems”

'Both the homeowner and the photographer remain unaware of the performance-taking place until afterwards, as it is essential that the photographer believe he or she has entered my home to photograph me in my personal environment.' from her website

'I consider myself an instigator: through employing a variety of subversive tactics, I orchestrate situations in which unsuspecting people become participants in the creation of the work. I see this as a way of examining and reconfiguring the relationship that exists between artist, subject and viewer.' from the RCA site

Well that last quote just about sums up TA! And definately her appearance on it

I do sort of see what she's trying to achieve. Although as individual photos you wouldn't tell. Only when you've a row of them and you realise it's the same woman in all that you'd start to question what you're looking at.
cookie_365
03-06-2010
I actually thought that was an interesting idea, but it made no sense to sell her photos as they only work in a gallery situation where you can compare the different ones.
a1councilexchan
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by cookie_365:
“I actually thought that was an interesting idea, but it made no sense to sell her photos as they only work in a gallery situation where you can compare the different ones.”

and without the story as to why she does it it makes no sense as the results are not that outstanding?
Tercet2
03-06-2010
Originally Posted by cookie_365:
“I actually thought that was an interesting idea, but it made no sense to sell her photos as they only work in a gallery situation where you can compare the different ones.”

You summed it up better than me.

Looking at her website, she really does invade peoples' privacy. Even nicks things to use as part of her art. Gives them back I suppose, but still. None of this is done with permission beforehand.
So another reason not to sell her art is in case it becomes part of a law suit
a1councilexchan
03-06-2010
well contraversal art does sell and because of this she has been noticed, i belong to red bubblle and theres a convo going on there about this, (which i started) its developed into copyright issues but is mainly to do with is it art or crime, i now think its not crime but not very nice?
Sweet FA
04-06-2010
Originally Posted by junglejuice:
“...The creepy house sitter had to be a set up just to see if anyone went for it surely? She didn't even take the photos ffs!”

Lol!

And does she share any 'proceeds' with the homeowners? Not that I expect anyone to hand over any money, mind. If she did that in my house she'd be prosecuted.
Pootmatoot
04-06-2010
I can't believe there was no comment on Zoe choosing the installation artist.

I can't think of a less commercial art type in a off-the-street gallery setting. The abstracts, although ridiculously overpriced for an artist of limited success and collectiblity, were far more sensible. You want to squarely hit the urban-trendy upper-middle class 25-45 bracket earning 35-50 grand a year. That's the demographic that would buy unknown artists off-the-wall from a no-name gallery.

Tim's teams first two main choices (the photographer and the tiki kitsch) were exactly that. Zoe chose one artist that was ridiculous in that setting,
Shrike
04-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“I can't believe there was no comment on Zoe choosing the installation artist.”

Did Zoe choose Mark Melvin though? I don't think that was shown? Emma was project manager so ultimately the responsibility would be hers, not Zoes'.
Also we don't really know the breakdown of each artists sales - we did see at least one of Marks mirrors being sold right at the end though. Also dont forget it was Zoe who won over Tom Lewis from the other team and we know his work definitly sold (Arjuns big sale was one of Toms')
Pootmatoot
04-06-2010
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“Did Zoe choose Mark Melvin though? I don't think that was shown? Emma was project manager so ultimately the responsibility would be hers, not Zoes'.
Also we don't really know the breakdown of each artists sales - we did see at least one of Marks mirrors being sold right at the end though. Also dont forget it was Zoe who won over Tom Lewis from the other team and we know his work definitly sold (Arjuns big sale was one of Toms')”



I'm not sure Zoe won him over, rather than the other team's pitch to him was abyssal.
Tercet2
05-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“I'm not sure Zoe won him over, rather than the other team's pitch to him was abyssal.”

Well he wanted to be in Brick Lane rather than the West End. So he must have had sufficent faith in Zoe to overcome that. Afterall he was probably informed that it wasn't just Kirsty trying to sell but still didn't want to take the chance on what the others were like.
a1councilexchan
05-06-2010
I think Kirstys going to miss out on a lot of life and its experiences. She doesn't do art! That was apparent wasn't it?
Loracan1
06-06-2010
I still cringe everytime I think about that housesitter 'artist'.
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