I want it to be Zoe which suprises me as i normally hate her type of caracter on the apprentice
The Winner - who do you want/think?
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I was Arjun to win - impressed with his presentation and sales skills, seems to have a good grip on finances, and knows what teamwork is.
I also like Zoe, but since she's admits that maths is her weak point and doesn't seem to have the strongest social skills, I don't think she'll get to the end.
I think Emma will win though.
I also like Zoe, but since she's admits that maths is her weak point and doesn't seem to have the strongest social skills, I don't think she'll get to the end.
I think Emma will win though.
I hope Emma wins, something about her angry cattyness combined with totally sweet niceness balancing act is just too cool.
Wouldn't mind if Zoe or Tim won though, as long as its not Arjun, aaargh he annoys me.
Wouldn't mind if Zoe or Tim won though, as long as its not Arjun, aaargh he annoys me.
What's this nonsense about Zoe getting the number of cakes wrong? She and Arjun wanted to make 350 cakes. Egg-Girl wanted 800. Zoe thought this was a joke, then Arjun did the maths that proved it. They went with 400 in the end, but 800 cakes would have landed them with a huge loss and they would have failed the task. Zoe's instincts were completely right.
I think Arjun did the Maths first and came up with the figure of 350 cakes, then Emma and Adam said 800 and Zoe shot them down and then went with 400. I don't think it was completely Zoe's instincts - she had solid maths to base her decision. It was teamwork.
Either way she and Arjun were on top of the numbers from the start. The idea that she got it wrong seems to have been conjured up out of nowhere, and doesn't reflect what we were shown.
Originally Posted by ForeverBeret:
“What's this nonsense about Zoe getting the number of cakes wrong?”
“What's this nonsense about Zoe getting the number of cakes wrong?”
Arjun said 250. Zoe upped it to 350. After talking to Emma she upped it again to 400. As far as I can tell, they sold less than 200.
Emma got it more wrong than Zoe, but Zoe got it wrong too. If she'd gone with Arjun's original figure her team would have made a lot more profit. In some ways she was more culpable than Emma because she had Arjun sitting next to her telling her the right answer. Her instincts were wrong, and I don't know why she trusted them over his calculations.
I think Zoe didn't want grief from Emma & Adam if they ended up running out of cakes. Remember Lordalun bawled out Tim the 'week' before for not making up more "credit crunch lunches" - no stock, no sales no bluhhdy profhit!!
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Arjun said 250. Zoe upped it to 350. After talking to Emma she upped it again to 400. As far as I can tell, they sold less than 200.
Emma got it more wrong than Zoe, but Zoe got it wrong too. If she'd gone with Arjun's original figure her team would have made a lot more profit. In some ways she was more culpable than Emma because she had Arjun sitting next to her telling her the right answer. Her instincts were wrong, and I don't know why she trusted them over his calculations.”
“Arjun said 250. Zoe upped it to 350. After talking to Emma she upped it again to 400. As far as I can tell, they sold less than 200.
Emma got it more wrong than Zoe, but Zoe got it wrong too. If she'd gone with Arjun's original figure her team would have made a lot more profit. In some ways she was more culpable than Emma because she had Arjun sitting next to her telling her the right answer. Her instincts were wrong, and I don't know why she trusted them over his calculations.”
Arjun's calculations were about how many they could make, not how many they could sell. 800 was impractical. 350 wasn't (or shouldn't have been, without the Adam Factor).
They came out in profit, so ultimately it was the right call.
Originally Posted by ForeverBeret:
“Arjun's calculations were about how many they could make, not how many they could sell. 800 was impractical. 350 wasn't (or shouldn't have been, without the Adam Factor).
They came out in profit, so ultimately it was the right call.”
“Arjun's calculations were about how many they could make, not how many they could sell. 800 was impractical. 350 wasn't (or shouldn't have been, without the Adam Factor).
They came out in profit, so ultimately it was the right call.”
Yes but they weren't professionals - and turns out they couldn't make anything like 350. They couldn't sell more than they could make, so the number they could make is the most significant one.
They may have come out in profit, but they would have made more profit if they'd used Arjun's figure as they would have had less expenditure. They made bugger all profit if I remember rightly.
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“Yes but they weren't professionals - and turns out they couldn't make anything like 350. They couldn't sell more than they could make, so the number they could make is the most significant one.
They may have come out in profit, but they would have made more profit if they'd used Arjun's figure as they would have had less expenditure. They made bugger all profit if I remember rightly.”
“Yes but they weren't professionals - and turns out they couldn't make anything like 350. They couldn't sell more than they could make, so the number they could make is the most significant one.
They may have come out in profit, but they would have made more profit if they'd used Arjun's figure as they would have had less expenditure. They made bugger all profit if I remember rightly.”
They made £15 IIRC (slight difference to tonights win
). The problem was Emma & Adam weren't realistic about how many cakes they could actually make, and none really had any idea of how many could be sold. The second is forgivable as they had nothing to base an estimate on - but the kitchen team had already been making cakes so should have had a feeling for it.
I still really want Zoe to win, but I think this looks less likely each week 
I'm moving away now from the belief that Arjun is the likeliest to win; he wasn't really very impressive tonight. Tim on the other hand seems to have left his early mistakes behind and is now doing very well; I think he now looks a likely winner.
I'm moving away now from the belief that Arjun is the likeliest to win; he wasn't really very impressive tonight. Tim on the other hand seems to have left his early mistakes behind and is now doing very well; I think he now looks a likely winner.
Interesting pairings for the final team tasks, I am behind Zoe and Kirsty not sure how they will work together,
Arjun wasa brought back to down to earth tonight, he isn't a good as people on here think he is or he himself.
If his team wins I can see him giving it to Tim for being mature beyond his years type of a reason
Arjun wasa brought back to down to earth tonight, he isn't a good as people on here think he is or he himself.
If his team wins I can see him giving it to Tim for being mature beyond his years type of a reason
Lord Sugar said something last night about having a responsibility to make sure the prize money goes to someone deserving and who will use it in the right way ... I think this is a big clue as to who the winner is ...
I can't see him thinking that either Zoe or Kirsty is deserving enough or responsible enough .... Zoe has great business skills but has proved time and again that she is not really mature enough yet to work successfully with others. Kirsty IMO has reached the final by a bit of a fluke ... she's been lucky and has had one of two successes but on the whole is not as deserving as the boys. She also strikes me as young for her years ...
So the boys are def the front runners in my mind. Arjun has quietly and confidently shown that he does have good skills although not always great skills. Tim has loudly and confidently showcased that he is a real all rounder, doesn't give up, fights for what he wants, work's well with others and gets on well with clients and is therefore deserving of the prize and is mature enough to use it responsibly.
So my money's on Tim and I hope he win's too!
I can't see him thinking that either Zoe or Kirsty is deserving enough or responsible enough .... Zoe has great business skills but has proved time and again that she is not really mature enough yet to work successfully with others. Kirsty IMO has reached the final by a bit of a fluke ... she's been lucky and has had one of two successes but on the whole is not as deserving as the boys. She also strikes me as young for her years ...
So the boys are def the front runners in my mind. Arjun has quietly and confidently shown that he does have good skills although not always great skills. Tim has loudly and confidently showcased that he is a real all rounder, doesn't give up, fights for what he wants, work's well with others and gets on well with clients and is therefore deserving of the prize and is mature enough to use it responsibly.
So my money's on Tim and I hope he win's too!
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I still really want Zoe to win, but I think this looks less likely each week
I'm moving away now from the belief that Arjun is the likeliest to win; he wasn't really very impressive tonight. Tim on the other hand seems to have left his early mistakes behind and is now doing very well; I think he now looks a likely winner.”
“I still really want Zoe to win, but I think this looks less likely each week
I'm moving away now from the belief that Arjun is the likeliest to win; he wasn't really very impressive tonight. Tim on the other hand seems to have left his early mistakes behind and is now doing very well; I think he now looks a likely winner.”
Tim may well have had the "Tim Campbell" edit - fairly inept and invisible for the first few weeks then a storming end. After last night it would seem he has totally redeemed himself
I would agree about Arjun too - early promise hasn't really been backed up by results - good, but not really good enough...
Edit to add - I like Zoe and feel shes had a bad edit. But even apart from the editing its clear that she needs to mature a bit and be less of a lone wolf. She'll do well in the future I'm sure, but like the Badger/Saira/Kristina she's a bit of a one trick selling pony and she'll not quite win.
Kirsty again is very good, but not quite there, too negative.
arjun will win it if it is a competition to find sir alans real apprentice
tim will win if this is a charity organised by sir alan.
like when that lee dude won it...crazy, sometimes it seems sir alan likes grafters only,not smart people
tim will win if this is a charity organised by sir alan.
like when that lee dude won it...crazy, sometimes it seems sir alan likes grafters only,not smart people
I'd like Tim to win and hope he does as he doesn't seem quite as anxious as the other three in wanting to prove his ability in their Head Boy/Girl manner.
Zoe is old before her years although she still needs to mature, lose her pained facial expressions and try not alienate her team members although Zoe may bypass any team work and go straight to the top.
Zoe is old before her years although she still needs to mature, lose her pained facial expressions and try not alienate her team members although Zoe may bypass any team work and go straight to the top.
I`d like Tim to win - if not him Arjun then Kirsty.
But think Zoe will win - and fully expect her to be part of the team tonight after LS words to her in last nights episode.
But think Zoe will win - and fully expect her to be part of the team tonight after LS words to her in last nights episode.
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