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Old 04-06-2010, 16:22
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big shame. looks rather obvious that this album was changed very last minute and the great tracks like monday morning and little dreamer were shunned for the likes of not myself tonight.

this whole era is designed to be a big flop for her.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:23
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her PR for her comeback has been awful too.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:28
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The album imo is great overall and I don't get why people complain if you buy the deluxe you get all the songs so it doesn't matter which order the tracklist goes just rearrange in your itunes library !!


Expect next week to see a lot of promo from Xtina.

Schedule

June

* 6th: 2010 MTV Movie Awards
* 8th: Mini Concert on Today show
* 9th: Late Show with David Letterman
* 10th: Live with Regis and Kelly
* 11th The Early Show
* 13th: VH1 Storytellers
* 13th: VH1 Behind the Music
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:38
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I think the album is okay, but it doesn't make sense to me. It sounds a bit like something Ciara or the Pussycat Dolls would do. The ballads are the saving grace. And it seems like they're trying to recreate Stripped, but it's just not working. She should be going forward, not backwards.

When this album flops, she should sack RCA.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:38
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:42
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Very much agreed about the original plans for the album being scrapped. Its a huge huge disappointment after waiting for so long. Still, if people like it...more power to them. Its a shame we didnt get the epic electronic album so many of us were expecting.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:46
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1. She needs to drop RCA, the entire RMG (RCA Music Group that includes RCA, J Records, Arista, etc) is a mess, horrible A&R and decision making, just dreadful.

2. She needs to stop thinking she is "iconic" and this super creative 'artiste' because she clearly isn't, she is a great vocalist but not an artist in any way, shape, or form.

There is a number of artists who have flopped this year for the very same reason thinking they are some creative artists when they aren't.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:46
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Looks like her team bottled it and rather than releasing the sublime "Birds of Prey" as the comeback single, went for the very safe and bland "Not Myself Tonight" instead.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:46
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First reviews are emerging. Mostly average so far, about 6/10
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:47
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First reviews are emerging. Mostly average so far, about 6/10
They have been really good actually:

The Times - 4/5
The Guardian - 3/5
UK Express - 4/5

Early days, more still to come through.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:50
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they must clearly be reviewing a different album than the one we are hearing. But seriously, that just goes to show how irrelevant critical reviews are in 2010, in the digital era when it takes minutes to download an album and preview it, and make your own judgement without having to rely on some biased snob.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:51
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they must clearly be reviewing a different album than the one we are hearing. But seriously, that just goes to show how irrelevant critical reviews are in 2010, in the digital era when it takes minutes to download an album and preview it, and make your own judgement without having to rely on some biased snob.
Who is we? Because I've heard a lot of great feed-back from fans, and not so much bad feed-back. The only negative stuff I've heard/read is really about Not Myself Tonight being the lead single.

Why does it make them irrelevant? Just because they don't agree with your view?
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:51
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they must clearly be reviewing a different album than the one we are hearing. But seriously, that just goes to show how irrelevant critical reviews are in 2010, in the digital era when it takes minutes to download an album and preview it, and make your own judgement without having to rely on some biased snob.
But you would have agreed with the reviews if they had the same viewpoint as you right?
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:52
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who is "we" ? the general public. Of course you will hear great feedback from fans, that's a given.

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I never pay attention to any critical reviews, positive or negative. reviews are an opinion of a single person who happens to be a journalist.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:53
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who is "we" ? the general public. Of course you will hear great feedback from fans, that's a given.
You can't speak for the general public and besides the general public made NMT No.12 on the UK charts without promo and the album hasn't even released for you to make this statement
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:54
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who is "we" ? the general public. Of course you will hear great feedback from fans, that's a given.

EDIT:

I never pay attention to any critical reviews, positive or negative. reviews are an opinion of a single person who happens to be a journalist.
So then why should we pay attention your views?

And how can you speak on behalf of everyone?
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:55
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You're right, just wait and watch what happens to this album over the next 5 weeks. That's all.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:57
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You're right, just wait and watch what happens to this album over the next 5 weeks. That's all.
If it doesn't do well, that wouldn't make you right. Opinions aren't right or wrong.

And do you have a crystal ball then?
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:58
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2. She needs to stop thinking she is "iconic" and this super creative 'artiste' because she clearly isn't, she is a great vocalist but not an artist in any way, shape, or form.
This I agree on, some people are very creative talents and others just sing really well, she is the latter and needs to get her head around it. Kelly Clarkson is the same, but at least she knows this and doesn't embarrass herself talking like she's some pretentious twit.
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:58
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I don't understand why people are bothered that the electro tracks are 'bonus tracks' on the deluxe version. It's like someone choosing between a 1-Disc DVD and a 2-Disc Special Edition DVD and complaining that there are no special features on the 1-disc version. Theres only a matter of a few pounds between the price, and if you were so bothered about the album, chances are you'd get the deluxe version anyway.

Some people are making out that we got to hear snippets of songs like Monday Morning and Birds of Prey, but then they got cut from the album and never heard of again. They are on the album still... and like someone on here posted before, change your tracklist on your PC if your that bothered about it.

I think its the best album of the year, and definetly worth the wait. IMO theres no bad songs on it, just 1 or 2 that are "filler".
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Old 04-06-2010, 16:58
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They have been really good actually:

The Times - 4/5
The Guardian - 3/5
UK Express - 4/5

Early days, more still to come through.
Oh, I've only seen two so far which both gave 3/5. Will be interesting to get an overall picture when all the rest arrive.
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Old 04-06-2010, 17:01
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Reviews are given and are usually made by very experienced individuals who score the music based on a variety of things.

They'll look at how the album fits it's genre. In this case reviewers think Christinas pop album Bionic is a great 4 out of 5 pop record.

I agree with them.

Sometimes great albums don't sell. Sometimes they do.

If this album fails to sell then it is not because it was poor, not because people hated it, but simply because there has been no publicity.

Now when I say "no publicity" I am not exagerating the point. I mean NO publicity. The album is coming out here next week off the back of a single that didn't even get played on national radio on a regular basis - let alone publicised anywhere other than the Internet and one US performance.

The album will be released on hear-say and at the end of the day Christina will only have herself to blame for ignoring a major Market to do other things.

The only publicity she has got is a quote on Jonathon Ross' Twitter saying "Christina cancelled".

Fans will no doubt buythe album upon release ensuring good first week sales. However without publicity she isn't going to get many further sales after this.
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Old 04-06-2010, 17:04
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Reviews are given and are usually made by very experienced individuals who score the music based on a variety of things.

They'll look at how the album fits it's genre. In this case reviewers think Christinas pop album Bionic is a great 4 out of 5 pop record.

I agree with them.

Sometimes great albums don't sell. Sometimes they do.

If this album fails to sell then it is not because it was poor, not because people hated it, but simply because there has been no publicity.

Now when I say "no publicity" I am not exagerating the point. I mean NO publicity. The album is coming out hear next week off the back of a single that didn't even get played on national radio on a regular basis.

The album will be released on hear-say and at the end of the day Christina will only have herself to blame for ignoring a major Market to do other things.

The only publicity she has got is a quote on Jonathon Ross' Twitter saying "Christina cancelled".
LOL so true, i would be surprised if she charts really high next week but there will be major promo coming and i think Longevity is what they're after. Although promo NOW would not have been a bad thing.
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Old 04-06-2010, 17:05
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If it doesn't do well, that wouldn't make you right. Opinions aren't right or wrong.

And do you have a crystal ball then?
you don't need a crystal ball to predict a dismal future for this project.
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Old 04-06-2010, 17:06
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yeah at least a little bit of promo...like Jonathan Ross show for example..or a performance on BGT. Something big, even if it was only one show...
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