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Music Of The 1960's v Music Of The 2000's
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Mike_1101
07-06-2010
I'm not a spring chicken, as you will realize when I tell you my mother was told off by, as a young girl, by my grandparents in 1938 for listening to popular music on Radio Luxembourg. I suppose this was cutting edge music 72 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbzXS49937A
(Benny Goodman Live at Carnegie Hall).

To make it worse, she committed the dreaful crime on a SUNDAY!

I read somewhere that people mainly relate to the music they heard between the ages of 11 - 25. That places me in the late 60s and 70s era. As for today, there is some good music out there but don't ask me to listen to rap or techno or most of the charts.

This is one of my favourites at the moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJratptQXk
(Amanda Jenssen - Happyland)

I have more interest in modern music now I have found a radio station that plays better quality material.
kutox
07-06-2010
I'm very ignorant about music before my time so I know pretty much nothing about 60's music (and 70's, and most of 80's ), but imo there's been plenty of great music in the last decade.

I hate when people pick out 1 or 2 examples of bad music as an excuse to criticise a whole decade in general, people who say things like "Westlife are terrible so 2000's was a bad decade for music". It's so easy to do that. Ok there has been some bad stuff in the charts but in terms of all the music that exists, it's nowhere near as bad as some people enjoy making out.
Mike_1101
07-06-2010
Be very glad you don't remember this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw (Bay City Rollers - 1974)

or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YriPIujLtsA
Jimmy Osmond - Long Haired Lover From Liverpool (1972)
PrincessPerfect
07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Biko:
“at the risk of being abused I'm gonna say the 2000's. the reason being that i wasn't around in the 60's. I love 60's music but being in my early 20's I grew up in an era where music is more readily available and have discovered alot of interesting exciting music that appeals to me culturally aswell as musically...

most people my age will say that they love 60's music but can't name anyone past the beatles, stones, the who. whereas there's a million artists that they can say they loved from the 2000's which stem beyond the usual chart rubbish, thats why it annoys me when the "older generation" complain about how rubbish music is nowadays. I think older people look at music nowadays and just judge it by whatever is in the charts.. there is life outside the top 40

I think if I'd grown up in the 60's then I would have said the 60's. I know theres alot of young people that will say that they prefer 60's music but for me personally taking into account growing up with music from the past 10 years I listen more to artist from 2000-2009 more than any other decade.”

Agree with this totally.
Vabosity
07-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“I'm not a spring chicken, as you will realize when I tell you my mother was told off by, as a young girl, by my grandparents in 1938 for listening to popular music on Radio Luxembourg. I suppose this was cutting edge music 72 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbzXS49937A
(Benny Goodman Live at Carnegie Hall).”

Sing, Sing, Sing by the Benny Goodman Big Band (featuring the brilliant Gene Krupa on drums). I don't care if it is 72 years old, that is fantastic music!


Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“This is one of my favourites at the moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJratptQXk
(Amanda Jenssen - Happyland).”

I'm surprised to find that I enjoyed that. So there is good modern music out there after all. Maybe that's the difference between the sixties and today. Back then, good, original, innovative music made the charts, while today the charts is full of crap and the good stuff needs to be discovered elsewhere.
Mike_1101
07-06-2010
This station plays (for me anyway) a good selection of modern music, although I also listen to several others and older music too.

http://www.swr3.de/musik/webradio/-/...o6o/index.html It's a german public broadcast so it helps to have some knowledge of the language.

This is an extract from their playlist

Semisonic Closing time 23:56
Morcheeba Even though 23:53
Maé, Christophe On s´attache 23:50
Lissie When I´m alone 23:47
Nickelback This afternoon 23:44
Rihanna Te amo 23:40
Reed, Eli "Paperboy" Come and get it 23:38
Etheridge, Melissa The wanting of you 23:34
Uncle Kracker Smile 23:31
Lady Antebellum Need you now 23:25
Johnny Clegg & Savuka Scatterlings of Africa 23:21
K´naan Wavin´ flag 23:16
Parlotones Come back as heroes 23:13

But it helps if you can enjoy a wide range of music from all eras, there were some good tunes around in 1930
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg_snJloZwY
Jack Hylton - I Want To Be Bad (written by De Sylva, Brown & Henderson)
Mr Wendal
08-06-2010
lets see:


Justin Bieber/Chris Brown vs Michael Jackson
Beyonce vs Diana Ross
Rihana vs Tina Turner
Lady Gaga vs Aretha Franklin
Radiohead /Coldplay vs The Beatles
Amy Winehouse vs Etta James
Michael Buble vs Frank Sinatra


To save me the trouble, anyone into the 2000’s just come up with a list and match any of the artists below – cant wait for the list of 21st century artists going to have a good laugh

Bob Dylan
The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley
The Who
Pink Floyd
The Kinks
James Brown
Chuck Berry
Nat King Cole
Ray Charles
Marvin Gaye
Sam Cooke
Stevie Wonder
BB King
The Temptations
Mike_1101
08-06-2010
Don't forget in 2050 people will be saying :-

"The music was so much better in 2010".
"There wasn't the rubbish on television 40 years ago that there is now"
"People were better behaved 40 years ago".
Mallaha
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mr Wendal:
“To save me the trouble, anyone into the 2000’s just come up with a list and match any of the artists below – cant wait for the list of 21st century artists going to have a good laugh ”

What the nostalgia mob don't seem to get is that while their heroes might mean a lot to them, to many other, often younger people, it's just another singer or musician.
A quote from Scroobius Pip is quite appropriate here, I think:

"Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals, no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: were just a band
Led Zeppelin: just a band
The Beach Boys: just a band..."
Mr Wendal
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mallaha:
“What the nostalgia mob don't seem to get is that while their heroes might mean a lot to them, to many other, often younger people, it's just another singer or musician.
A quote from Scroobius Pip is quite appropriate here, I think:

"Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals, no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: were just a band
Led Zeppelin: just a band
The Beach Boys: just a band..."”

I was not born in the 60's, just like no one on this planet was alive during the mozart or beethovens era and yet their music is still going strong. The cream always rises to the top. The fact remains it does not take away the evidence that most people with decent taste, young or old know good music and dont need to be feed or led like sheep and only accept what the likes Cowell and the other cattle producers throw at them.

As for a musican being a hero? lol! People who need or have heros are people that need to be saved from themselves
Vabosity
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mallaha:
“What the nostalgia mob don't seem to get is that while their heroes might mean a lot to them, to many other, often younger people, it's just another singer or musician.
A quote from Scroobius Pip is quite appropriate here, I think:

"Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals, no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: were just a band
Led Zeppelin: just a band
The Beach Boys: just a band..."”

My friend's 19 year old son's favourite band is Led Zeppelin, while the Beatles are the favourite band of the 15 year old son of a former workmate.

It's hardly nostalgia to them.
rachelgata
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Tel69:
“Personally some 60's music is excellent but a lot of it was cack pretty much like every other decade.”

Exactly. Every decade has had its own genius and creativity, and also its fair share of dross. It's just not possible to say X decade was better than Y.

It does annoy me when some say music nowadays is just unoriginal crap. Even at a time when it's nigh-on impossible to create something truly musically innovative, there are plenty of examples of musicians who are blending old genres to create something that may not be entirely 'new', but is still interesting and inspiring.

For the record, I'm in my forties and I listen to much more current music than do my two young children, who listen almost exclusively to the Beatles.
mushymanrob
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mallaha:
“What the nostalgia mob don't seem to get is that while their heroes might mean a lot to them, to many other, often younger people, it's just another singer or musician.
A quote from Scroobius Pip is quite appropriate here, I think:

"Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals, no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: were just a band
Led Zeppelin: just a band
The Beach Boys: just a band..."”

...'just a band'?... bands that changed music, that influenced and inspired many since.

that quotes stupid.

im not into hero worship, iam into giving due credit where its due and upholding the facts of how music evolved and who was responsible. you dont have to like the music from the 60's, fair play, but seriously, no one from the last decade can compare to the greats from the 60's... because thats where pop music as we know it started, they WERE the ones to break new ground, they were first.
Biko
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mr Wendal:
“lets see:


Justin Bieber/Chris Brown vs Michael Jackson
Beyonce vs Diana Ross
Rihana vs Tina Turner
Lady Gaga vs Aretha Franklin
Radiohead /Coldplay vs The Beatles
Amy Winehouse vs Etta James
Michael Buble vs Frank Sinatra


To save me the trouble, anyone into the 2000’s just come up with a list and match any of the artists below – cant wait for the list of 21st century artists going to have a good laugh ”

you make some interesting points but you're not thinking outside the box, simply name checking the most formulaic, commercial artists of the 21st century isn't really going to convince me that I have bad taste becuase I listen to more modern artists than I do 60's artists


Originally Posted by Mr Wendal:
“I was not born in the 60's, just like no one on this planet was alive during the mozart or beethovens era and yet their music is still going strong. The cream always rises to the top. The fact remains it does not take away the evidence that most people with decent taste, young or old know good music and dont need to be feed or led like sheep and only accept what the likes Cowell and the other cattle producers throw at them. ”

You're right alot of young people are being spoonfed by record companies and Simon Cowell. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been called a music snob on this board for citing that but the're was still alot of that in the 60's,70's 80's 90's and will continue on and on. I can't speak for everyone but I'd imagine that the people who have replied to this thread saying that they prefer 00's music are people that are NOT being spoonfed and have actually gone out and sourced their favourite bands based on the music and NOT promotion, commercial success etc.

at the end of the day like I said I love 60's music and so do alot of people my age I appreciate its influence as much as anyone else. For instance one of my favourite bands Joy Division, were from the late 70's and alot of the modern music that I listen to now wouldn't exist if It hadn't been for them but I wouldn't look at it and think its a pale imitation. its just taking influence and moulding it into something great for this era. its the music I've grown up with from a life perspective so i will naturally identify with it a little more than i would from any other era.

So in short I think its a bit of a generalization to just lump modern music into one category namechecking the likes of Scouting Foir Girls, Westlife, Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga as a source of lazy research.
da3bool
08-06-2010
Originally Posted by Mr Wendal:
“lets see:


Justin Bieber/Chris Brown vs Michael Jackson
Beyonce vs Diana Ross
Rihana vs Tina Turner
Lady Gaga vs Aretha Franklin
Radiohead /Coldplay vs The Beatles
Amy Winehouse vs Etta James
Michael Buble vs Frank Sinatra
”

The only one of modern artists to have the upper hand. Beyonce's and Diana's career is a bit similar with being in a group and then blow up in their solo career. Beyonce is a mix of Diana Ross and Tina Turner as a performer but she has the upper hand vocally by far. Diana's voice was soft and Tina's was more of an entertainer but Beyonce managed to merge the voice and performance.
Neighbours_Fan
08-06-2010
Beyonce reminds me more of Tina Turner than Diana Ross.
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