There must be a way to get away from the TV karioke format to include real musicians with new material. Channel 4 can't manage it despite major investment from orange. Allowing corporate control at any level is counterproductive for a serious underground show. However, there may be a show coming up that fits the bill, The Source, a TV show based in Manchester and broadcasting on freeview from September is rumoured to be a completely original format, providing a route into the music business for aspiring artists and a major source of income to support them in their artistic development. It will subvert the whole of the music establishment, breaking up the cosy world of the production cartel. Vive la revolution!

This is just a relatively small point in music history where, sometimes, we are overrun with reality TV shows.

We all look at things through rose tinted glasses. I'm sure there was complete dross back in t'day, but it's all forgotten about just like JLS, Alexander Burk etc will be in years to come.

The problem I see with music at the moment is that it's all short term. It's about making as much money as quickly as possible. After 1 big thing the next big thing comes around. No one lasts long any more; they want instant fame and fortune.

There's no development. It seems record labels are scared to develop acts now. They just want to spew out the same old shit because they know it sells.

There's always the indie market if you know where to look, but it'll never be popular (I don't mean indie in the sense of skinny tie wearing, clean guitar bands, either!)

Sky1 have got a show coming up, same as the critically acclaimed and praised Got to Dance but just with bands/DJ's/solo artists

The prize is pretty tasty, financial support, studio time, work experienced people etc, i.e A&R men, promoters, mangers etc and producers for making an album etc.

So true but I also think there is no movement in music now, in the 60's and 70's you had the whole Psyhedelic,Acid rock and Hard rock thing and Soul and Disco and Funk movement.In the 80's it was Punk and Ska and New Wave,Indie and New Romatic and Bubble Gum Pop thing.On too the 90's it was Grunge and Shoegaze and American Indie too Brit Pop & Dance movement and in 2001 it stop there with Garage and EMO and sadly no more movement.It's like people are afraid too do anything new or be Anti-Heroes in music these days if it was not for RATM getting to number one we would still have to hear that awful X Factor dross for Christmas again.

theres a possible inherent block though ,
that is the vast majority of record buyers have their idea of a decent song /band that is almost certainly influenced by recent music trends (corporate music if you like )
and new producer or band might find themselves selling out unwittingly to accommodate
a more commercial sound and make a band commercially viable ,
internet campaigns are usually just as bad as big corporate campaigns to promote bands
in that they almost force a band /sound down our ears corporate music responds by adopting
some aspects (how many dance bands and pop groups in the noughties had real musicians
on stage despite obvious electronics at work for example ,
basically as long as theres music industry bosses more interested in money than talent nothings going to change soon imho .