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Old 08-06-2010, 18:18
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i'm told by my dealer that Sony will have a dual tuner, freeview ,HD recorder available in September 2010.

Cost around £320. Has anyone any further info on the recorder.

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Old 23-11-2010, 23:09
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i'm told by my dealer that Sony will have a dual tuner, freeview ,HD recorder available in September 2010.

Cost around £320. Has anyone any further info on the recorder.

eddie
panasonic do one - has Sony got one in the pipe line? Web site suggests not...
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Old 23-11-2010, 23:16
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panasonic do one - has Sony got one in the pipe line? Web site suggests not...
Might be something they're buying in from elsewhere and re-badging - possibly from Samsung. Nigel Goodwin could probably elaborate.
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Old 23-11-2010, 23:22
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My dealer was shown an early working unit during a dealer presentation at Gleneages in the Spring and was advised of a late 2010 release.

Since then they have been advised it is no longer going to be launched in the UK.

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Old 24-11-2010, 13:53
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Might be something they're buying in from elsewhere and re-badging - possibly from Samsung. Nigel Goodwin could probably elaborate.
I've never heard anything about it - but like the Panasonic's it would be too crippled to be really useful.
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Old 25-11-2010, 18:23
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I've never heard anything about it - but like the Panasonic's it would be too crippled to be really useful.
Nigel what is crippled about Panasonic recorders?


What else would you want a Freeview HD recorder to do that Panasonic recorders currently can do? (i.e. record HD Freeview transmissions)

If I remember rightly you don't sell Panasonic products, and you also appear to hate Guide+, so without any apparent personal experience of the product how can you post such a statement?
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Old 30-11-2010, 20:44
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Nigel what is crippled about Panasonic recorders?
You can only make one copy protected BluRay copy, and it won't play back in a normal BluRay player - that's strikes me as VERY crippled - and I don't expect any other recorders to be any different.


What else would you want a Freeview HD recorder to do that Panasonic recorders currently can do? (i.e. record HD Freeview transmissions)
I'd 'expect' you to be able to make as many BluRay copies as you like, and to be able to play them in normal players - but I realise that's unlikely to happen


If I remember rightly you don't sell Panasonic products, and you also appear to hate Guide+, so without any apparent personal experience of the product how can you post such a statement?
From the specifications and what other people have posted about them - I also have a friend who has one, he actually reviews recorders and discs of various kinds.

As for GuidePlus, I certainly do hate it (we get more calls about problems with it than anything else) - I'm amazed that Panasonic don't provide the proper EPG as well - and can only assume that Panasonic receive payment not to?.

I also presume Sony receive money to put it on their products, but probably less than Panasonic as it's not exclusive (and doesn't appear to be the default any more).
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Old 30-11-2010, 21:56
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It is about time Sony had such a recorder int heir range. However, when they do, I hope it's alot better than their current dismal range of DVD recorders. I gather these are actually manufactured by Panasonic for Sony though!
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Old 30-11-2010, 23:12
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It is about time Sony had such a recorder int heir range. However, when they do, I hope it's alot better than their current dismal range of DVD recorders. I gather these are actually manufactured by Panasonic for Sony though!
No, by Samsung - the previous range (from Pioneer) were great, but the current ones are pretty naff.

Sony did announce BluRay recorders a good few years back - and prices were even included in the Sony price lists, but they never appeared (and a good thing as the prices were in the thousands!).

The problem of course is what can it record?, the only choice is a pitiful few channel on Freeview and Freesat - so it makes them much less useful than you would like.
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:58
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[quote=Nigel Goodwin;46131469]You can only make one copy protected BluRay copy, and it won't play back in a normal BluRay player - that's strikes me as VERY crippled - and I don't expect any other recorders to be any different.

The copy protected programmes I have copied to blu-ray discs from ITV1 HD and C4 HD (the only ones to show a copy protection flag) work perfectly well in a PS3, Sony BDPS360, Toshiba BDX2100, Philips BDP3100 and in my computer Pioneer BDR205 - so hardly crippled.

It may be that you are thinking about discs recorded in DR mode??

These will play back on the Panasonic, but possibly not on other players. The simple answer is to do what I do and convert the recording before transfer to blu-ray disc.
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Old 01-12-2010, 17:58
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No, by Samsung - the previous range (from Pioneer) were great, but the current ones are pretty naff.
Saw a model in Marks and Specers today - it's the HDR DC 100 and it was being sold for £279 - exactly £60 more than I paid for the same recorder 5 months ago in another shop.
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:20
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Saw a model in Marks and Specers today - it's the HDR DC 100 and it was being sold for £279 - exactly £60 more than I paid for the same recorder 5 months ago in another shop.
That's the Samsung made one - it's really pretty naff.
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Old 01-12-2010, 23:17
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No, by Samsung - the previous range (from Pioneer) were great, but the current ones are pretty naff.
Hmm, they seem to be going the wrong way

The original DVB capable DVD recorders (in-house I think) were excellent (I wore mine out through overuse). The Pioneers (the replacement for the aforementioned) are very good, but the user interface on them is appalling compared to the original units (fortunately they make up for it in features if you can put up with the odd powering on/off related quirks)

I've not used the Samsung produced ones, but from your comments if I have a need to replace my 890 I think I'll steer clear of the Sonys (and probably any Samsung branded ones)
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:26
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Hmm, they seem to be going the wrong way
Unfortunately Pioneer pulled out of making DVD recorders (and TV's)


I've not used the Samsung produced ones, but from your comments if I have a need to replace my 890 I think I'll steer clear of the Sonys (and probably any Samsung branded ones)
It's a BIG step downhill from the 890's
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Old 20-12-2010, 17:22
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Nigel what is crippled about Panasonic recorders?


What else would you want a Freeview HD recorder to do that Panasonic recorders currently can do? (i.e. record HD Freeview transmissions)

If I remember rightly you don't sell Panasonic products, and you also appear to hate Guide+, so without any apparent personal experience of the product how can you post such a statement?
I have bought two Panasonics in the past two months,I have yet to hear of anyone who likes the Guide Plus EPG, in my opinion Panasonic TVs are excellent, but the guide plus EPG is total crap, I give it 0 out of ten.
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Old 20-12-2010, 17:33
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I have bought two Panasonics in the past two months,I have yet to hear of anyone who likes the Guide Plus EPG, in my opinion Panasonic TVs are excellent, but the guide plus EPG is total crap, I give it 0 out of ten.
If something didn't work then I would give it 0 out of 10, but guide+ does work, so I don't see why you are so hard on it??

OK the advert is a nuisance, but I have learnt to ignore it, timer recordings work perfectly (ok you have to pad ITV and C4 - but that's the same for the standard freeview epg - i have a humax foxT2 as well) and series link works fine - so what's wrong with guide+???
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Old 21-12-2010, 01:42
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As for GuidePlus, I certainly do hate it (we get more calls about problems with it than anything else) - I'm amazed that Panasonic don't provide the proper EPG as well - and can only assume that Panasonic receive payment not to?.

I also presume Sony receive money to put it on their products, but probably less than Panasonic as it's not exclusive (and doesn't appear to be the default any more).
I tried Guide+ on my Sony box for 5 minutes and promptly switched back to the Sony EPG. I did not like it at all, not least the chunky bezel effects, the grey background with non-uniform channel idents crudely plastered onto them. I had nightmarish flashbacks of the interweb back in the Netscape 3 days.

Do Panasonic not do their own EPG in any of their products?

As for exclusive use of Guide+ it might be for reasons of cost. The cost of companies to develop and maintain their own EPG software - and judging by how many slow and buggy EPGs there are out there most manufacturers obviously don't want to invest resources in this side of product development.

Also, as I understand it, the makers of Guide+ own several patents relating to the electronic programme guide which EPG makers have to pay a licence fee for. I believe Virgin Media challenged this last year and won but for a lot of manufacturers they may simply not consider it worth it to fight Rovi and instead considering cheaper simply to licence Guide+

Interestingly the Guide+ service on ITV1 will cease at the end of this month and will no longer work on the old Pioneer/Sony HDD recorders such as mine. I won't miss something I've never used but I'm sure there's going to be quite a few out there completely in the dark about this who will not be happy.
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Old 22-02-2011, 21:05
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Hi, the Sony person who replied to a question I asked on their forum indicated it would be unlikely a BR recorder would be produced, but these look like they're almost here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1427708
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Old 14-06-2011, 09:59
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Bought the 1000 Gig one a week or so ago. It's a touch more reliale than the TopUp TV 6300.
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Old 15-06-2011, 14:08
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Bought the 1000 Gig one a week or so ago. It's a touch more reliale than the TopUp TV 6300.
The TUTV DTi 6300 has really poor quality parts (capacitors) in its internal power supply. Within a short period of use these poor capacitors start to fail and the result is that they send very unstable power to the rest of the box, making it at best, unreliable. Find someone to replace these capacitors with better parts (should cost no more than £35.00) and it is a surprisingly good unit.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:05
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Capacitors changed, excellent signal strength and quality, reformat the HDD every month or two and SWMBO said the DTI6300 is still unreliable.

We have had the Sony for around two or three weeks and no complaints from her!!!!

Sorted!!!

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