Originally Posted by katie_p:
“Copied from Flavia thread.
I wonder how long the pros have known about this?”
“Copied from Flavia thread.
I wonder how long the pros have known about this?”
Article from the Sun
Three New Male Dancers Announced ...
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Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“As for Matt Cutler tell the BBC where to stick the show because that line up with those terrible pros is never going to be a success - what are they going to do get rid of 'proper' ballroom for dreadful american ”
“As for Matt Cutler tell the BBC where to stick the show because that line up with those terrible pros is never going to be a success - what are they going to do get rid of 'proper' ballroom for dreadful american ”
Hi bm
I know this really sucks as regards Matt but do you honestly think he can turn his back on 4 mths of regular work ??.........he could still be on screen every week in the (probably spectacular if the pro tour is anything to go by)pro dances and maybe on ITT etc.
You turn your back on SCD you turn your back on everything associated with it including tours.........how often did you see Camilla or Karen last year and you never saw them dance.
More than anything i love to see Matt dance and if this is the only way i see that for 4 mths and he is happy with this "role" on SCD then i have to be as well.
SCD will be over soon enough or Matt won't be offered a job even in the group aspect.........if he can hack it then take the job offer/money while he can...he dosen't what does he replace it with ????
(all that goes for Ian as well).
Press reports that Brian has quit following the shake-up.
http://www.midhurstandpetworth.co.uk...tly.6349117.jp
http://www.midhurstandpetworth.co.uk...tly.6349117.jp
What a shock!
I am gutted we will see no more Lilia & Matthew in the competitive side, and I have grown tired of Anton since the end of last series, happy Brendan has stayed because I enjoy his routines and I am HUGELY concerned regarding the "new genres of dance"
I am gutted we will see no more Lilia & Matthew in the competitive side, and I have grown tired of Anton since the end of last series, happy Brendan has stayed because I enjoy his routines and I am HUGELY concerned regarding the "new genres of dance"
Having said that I would like to see better show dances, where the pros get more rehearsal time and production money to produce better routines, maybe that is what they are aiming at. I hope they do produce something special from that, but it could very easily be a disaster if they go about it the wrong way. The professionals need to really be sure about commiting to it, as if they dont get the right feeling about how it will work, they would be better walking away while they still have happy memories of the show. It all depends on what they are allowed to do.
The celebrities and their coaching is a big area of concern. It depends a lot on the celebrities, as even Lilia couldn't do much with Richard last year. If they get really good celebs, that could go a long way to making up for removing some of the best coaches and choreographers.
Like others have said, keeping Anton is a worrying sign - not that I wish him any ill, but we are looking for any clues to the competence of those making the decisions.
The celebrities and their coaching is a big area of concern. It depends a lot on the celebrities, as even Lilia couldn't do much with Richard last year. If they get really good celebs, that could go a long way to making up for removing some of the best coaches and choreographers.
Like others have said, keeping Anton is a worrying sign - not that I wish him any ill, but we are looking for any clues to the competence of those making the decisions.
I'm not looking forward to the next series at all after looking at the pro line-up. I am happy that they have kept Vincent and Flavia but what a terrible decision to get rid of five popular pros. The pros that they have got rid of were the ones who were able to get the best out of their partners.
I don't believe this will help the ratings at all. Dancing with the stars improved their ratings this year and they only added one new professional.
I don't believe this will help the ratings at all. Dancing with the stars improved their ratings this year and they only added one new professional.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Not necessarily - who knows what other changes are in the pipeline? DWTS is only 10 weeks long, but has sixteen couiples.
As for the pro changes, well we knew it was going to be big. The only thing I'm surprised about is Anton is still dancing because I thought he had said he wouldn't be dancing again. This makes me think he could still be in line for Bruce's job in the long run.
I'm happy to wait and see how it all goes.
All my favourites are still involved with the show in some capacity and that's better than losing them altogether. Mind you it says they have been offered roles - that's not the same as accepting them.
Who knows? I might like the new guys!
”
“Not necessarily - who knows what other changes are in the pipeline? DWTS is only 10 weeks long, but has sixteen couiples.
As for the pro changes, well we knew it was going to be big. The only thing I'm surprised about is Anton is still dancing because I thought he had said he wouldn't be dancing again. This makes me think he could still be in line for Bruce's job in the long run.
I'm happy to wait and see how it all goes.
All my favourites are still involved with the show in some capacity and that's better than losing them altogether. Mind you it says they have been offered roles - that's not the same as accepting them.
Who knows? I might like the new guys!
”
On DWTS they sometimes have double elimination weeks.
I was thinking that about Anton/Bruce.....I hope not......a. I was hoping Bruce wouldnt be back this year..b. I went off Anton so completely last series that I couldnt face having him present it.
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“On DWTS they sometimes have double elimination weeks.
I was thinking that about Anton/Bruce.....I hope not......a. I was hoping Bruce wouldnt be back this year..b. I went off Anton so completely last series that I couldnt face having him present it.”
“On DWTS they sometimes have double elimination weeks.
I was thinking that about Anton/Bruce.....I hope not......a. I was hoping Bruce wouldnt be back this year..b. I went off Anton so completely last series that I couldnt face having him present it.”
I don't think this show is going to outlive Bruce frankly.
And it certainly won't last much longer if they ever let Anton loose on it.
Originally Posted by Fairygirl:
“Hi bm
I know this really sucks as regards Matt but do you honestly think he can turn his back on 4 mths of regular work ??.........he could still be on screen every week in the (probably spectacular if the pro tour is anything to go by)pro dances and maybe on ITT etc.
You turn your back on SCD you turn your back on everything associated with it including tours.........how often did you see Camilla or Karen last year and you never saw them dance.
More than anything i love to see Matt dance and if this is the only way i see that for 4 mths and he is happy with this "role" on SCD then i have to be as well.
SCD will be over soon enough or Matt won't be offered a job even in the group aspect.........if he can hack it then take the job offer/money while he can...he dosen't what does he replace it with ????
(all that goes for Ian as well).”
“Hi bm
I know this really sucks as regards Matt but do you honestly think he can turn his back on 4 mths of regular work ??.........he could still be on screen every week in the (probably spectacular if the pro tour is anything to go by)pro dances and maybe on ITT etc.
You turn your back on SCD you turn your back on everything associated with it including tours.........how often did you see Camilla or Karen last year and you never saw them dance.
More than anything i love to see Matt dance and if this is the only way i see that for 4 mths and he is happy with this "role" on SCD then i have to be as well.
SCD will be over soon enough or Matt won't be offered a job even in the group aspect.........if he can hack it then take the job offer/money while he can...he dosen't what does he replace it with ????
(all that goes for Ian as well).”
I don't really think what the BBC offer is that lucrative and you can be sure those dancing in the pro dance once a week will not get what the others do- Im sure Matt could fill in the saturday work and pay cheque - surely his pride would stop him ?? some one of theh calibre of Anton still in and he relegated to the pro squad - noooo
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“On DWTS they sometimes have double elimination weeks.
I was thinking that about Anton/Bruce.....I hope not......a. I was hoping Bruce wouldnt be back this year..b. I went off Anton so completely last series that I couldnt face having him present it.”
“On DWTS they sometimes have double elimination weeks.
I was thinking that about Anton/Bruce.....I hope not......a. I was hoping Bruce wouldnt be back this year..b. I went off Anton so completely last series that I couldnt face having him present it.”
That's what I was thinking - 14 couples doesn't really tell us how long the series will be.
I felt sorry for Anton last year tbh and wasn't surprised when I heard he was choosing not to return. Clearly that was wrong info. He would still be my first choice to replace Bruce with Graham Norton second choice.
I can't help but wonder if there will be new people tuning in just because of curiosity or if it will ultimately hurt SCD by turning off loyal fans who want to the pros they have come to know and love. It will be interesting to see. I do think Jared Murillo will appeal to very young girls who watch X factor and might come over. I am assuming they will give him a young partner.
New to the SCD threads but I just wanted to add my two cents!!
I think it's a real shame about those cut, or relagated to the troupe. I think all of those dancers are brill. Plus it's such a pity we wont see Brian at all now, although I can't say I blame him. Himself and Kristina were great together in the group numbers though! Oh well, lets just hope we get some amazing group dances at least!!
As for Anton, very surprised!! His Latin is lacking to say the least so god knows how he'll fare with these 'new styles' of dance.
I actually wouldn't put Brendan in the Anton category, other than the fact that they are both long serving. I think he'll a great dancer plus as far as I can remember his choreography has always been good too. At least it doesn't stick out like Antons'. Plus he is a Latin specialist (I think!) yet his ballroom is definately up to standard, unlike Anton's Latin!!
I think it's a real shame about those cut, or relagated to the troupe. I think all of those dancers are brill. Plus it's such a pity we wont see Brian at all now, although I can't say I blame him. Himself and Kristina were great together in the group numbers though! Oh well, lets just hope we get some amazing group dances at least!!
As for Anton, very surprised!! His Latin is lacking to say the least so god knows how he'll fare with these 'new styles' of dance.
I actually wouldn't put Brendan in the Anton category, other than the fact that they are both long serving. I think he'll a great dancer plus as far as I can remember his choreography has always been good too. At least it doesn't stick out like Antons'. Plus he is a Latin specialist (I think!) yet his ballroom is definately up to standard, unlike Anton's Latin!!
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“I can't help but wonder if there will be new people tuning in just because of curiosity or if it will ultimately hurt SCD by turning off loyal fans who want to the pros they have come to know and love. It will be interesting to see. I do think Jared Murillo will appeal to very young girls who watch X factor and might come over. I am assuming they will give him a young partner.”
“I can't help but wonder if there will be new people tuning in just because of curiosity or if it will ultimately hurt SCD by turning off loyal fans who want to the pros they have come to know and love. It will be interesting to see. I do think Jared Murillo will appeal to very young girls who watch X factor and might come over. I am assuming they will give him a young partner.”
I don't think they'll lose significant numbers of fans just because of the pros... they don't have much impact on the public vote after all. But if the standard of the show is damaged, ultimately viewing figures will drop. It depends whether people take to the new pros... kind of seems that they may take the dancing in a new direction as well, with ballroom and latin being sidelined. Whether that will take with viewers is anyone's guess.
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“I can't help but wonder if there will be new people tuning in just because of curiosity or if it will ultimately hurt SCD by turning off loyal fans who want to the pros they have come to know and love. It will be interesting to see. I do think Jared Murillo will appeal to very young girls who watch X factor and might come over. I am assuming they will give him a young partner.”
“I can't help but wonder if there will be new people tuning in just because of curiosity or if it will ultimately hurt SCD by turning off loyal fans who want to the pros they have come to know and love. It will be interesting to see. I do think Jared Murillo will appeal to very young girls who watch X factor and might come over. I am assuming they will give him a young partner.”
My teenaged pupils who dance Latin would not turn on Strictly for that line up
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Not necessarily - who knows what other changes are in the pipeline? DWTS is only 10 weeks long, but has sixteen couiples.
”
“Not necessarily - who knows what other changes are in the pipeline? DWTS is only 10 weeks long, but has sixteen couiples.
”
That was for 1 season only[its least watched], it went back to 11 this year.
The beeb have never had a double elimination and i doubt they'll start now.
The fact the beeb will have to loose at least 2 weeks of their most watched enteraiment show, will be painfull enough for them. So i really doubt that they'll cut it further.
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“I don't think they'll lose significant numbers of fans just because of the pros... they don't have much impact on the public vote after all. But if the standard of the show is damaged, ultimately viewing figures will drop. It depends whether people take to the new pros... kind of seems that they may take the dancing in a new direction as well, with ballroom and latin being sidelined. Whether that will take with viewers is anyone's guess.”
“I don't think they'll lose significant numbers of fans just because of the pros... they don't have much impact on the public vote after all. But if the standard of the show is damaged, ultimately viewing figures will drop. It depends whether people take to the new pros... kind of seems that they may take the dancing in a new direction as well, with ballroom and latin being sidelined. Whether that will take with viewers is anyone's guess.”
It is the standard of the dancing that bothers me most - any show which still has Anton in it then the Latin is downgraded
and I dont want American style ballroom on an English show if I wanted american will watch DWTS where the dancers are of a much higher standard than the 3 the BBC have brough overt - the DWTS cast must be laughing their heads off
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I don't really think what the BBC offer is that lucrative and you can be sure those dancing in the pro dance once a week will not get what the others do- Im sure Matt could fill in the saturday work and pay cheque - surely his pride would stop him ?? some one of theh calibre of Anton still in and he relegated to the pro squad - noooo”
“I don't really think what the BBC offer is that lucrative and you can be sure those dancing in the pro dance once a week will not get what the others do- Im sure Matt could fill in the saturday work and pay cheque - surely his pride would stop him ?? some one of theh calibre of Anton still in and he relegated to the pro squad - noooo”
For me now bm if Anton is still in the pro/celeb bit of SCD and Matt and Ian are out the pro/celeb part of SCD it's a joke........no disrespect to Anton but you compare his ability to Matt and Ians and there is no comparison........truth hurts i'm afraid but that part of SCD is no longer "dance based wins" its all "personality" "entertainment" based.........Chris won last year over Ricky (clearly the better dancer).............that part of SCD is now plainly least about the dancing.....
Have you seen the pro routines on the pro tour ??,they are nothing short of spectacular, you mention Matts pride ??,what pride is to be lost showing people what you can do to the ultimate of your profession and ability ?? which he could still do in the pro dances on SCD.......
If this new "role" offered by the BBC does not suit Matt (or Ian for that matter) then he/they walk away but thats it he walks away for good,not just the Saturday work but any possible tours in the future.........its not just Saturday work and one paycheque.
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“My teenaged pupils who dance Latin would not turn on Strictly for that line up”
“My teenaged pupils who dance Latin would not turn on Strictly for that line up”
Wow thats a scientific poll.
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“It is the standard of the dancing that bothers me most - any show which still has Anton in it then the Latin is downgraded
and I dont want American style ballroom on an English show if I wanted american will watch DWTS where the dancers are of a much higher standard than the 3 the BBC have brough overt - the DWTS cast must be laughing their heads off”
“It is the standard of the dancing that bothers me most - any show which still has Anton in it then the Latin is downgraded
and I dont want American style ballroom on an English show if I wanted american will watch DWTS where the dancers are of a much higher standard than the 3 the BBC have brough overt - the DWTS cast must be laughing their heads off”
It is laughable that Anton is still in it on so many different counts... I really do wonder what the thinking was on that score. The only thing I could possibly believe is that they're thinking they have to have an older lady celeb, and Anton's 'charm' will be good for her. However Darren last year was lovely with Lynda, and he didn't make a fool of her in the latin dances either.
Otherwise- he's not as good a dancer as the others. He's not as popular. he's not as a good a choreographer or teacher. he brought a load of bad PR to the show last year. He's getting on a bit.
... great decision BBC
Noooooooo.
I haven't read all of this thread but absolutely gutted Ian won't be dancing competitively, if he chooses to stay at all.
I haven't read all of this thread but absolutely gutted Ian won't be dancing competitively, if he chooses to stay at all.
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“That was for 1 season only[its least watched], it went back to 11 this year.
The beeb have never had a double elimination and i doubt they'll start now.
The fact the beeb will have to loose at least 2 weeks of their most watched enteraiment show, will be painfull enough for them. So i really doubt that they'll cut it further.”
“That was for 1 season only[its least watched], it went back to 11 this year.
The beeb have never had a double elimination and i doubt they'll start now.
The fact the beeb will have to loose at least 2 weeks of their most watched enteraiment show, will be painfull enough for them. So i really doubt that they'll cut it further.”
Sorry to disagree, but season 1 was 6 weeks, season 2 was 8 weeks and apart from season 8 the rest were 10 weeks long.
There are other changes to be announced, so I'll wait for them first, but I doubt the run will be shortened. I hope not tbh, but I want a decent show each week.
As fans posting on DS or other boards, we are still a tiny minority of SCD viewers and I doubt if anything we say will have any effect.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“As fans posting on DS or other boards, we are still a tiny minority of SCD viewers and I doubt if anything we say will have any effect.”
“As fans posting on DS or other boards, we are still a tiny minority of SCD viewers and I doubt if anything we say will have any effect.”
That's very true. Those of my friends who don't post on DS don't really follow the pro dancers, they watch for the celebs and they actually like Bruce
and they like Anton because he's on other shows they've seen, so it won't make any difference to them. (Why are they still friends, I wonder!)
I think it could loose 2 weeks and not suffer. Honestly, I found last year a tad too long and a bit draggy in places
Am I reading the report wrong? From the BBC thing I get that the 'dance group' will be doing the different dances?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedan...rst_news.shtml
(Just a thought, as well - do we know for sure that none of the pro's have asked for a less 'hands on' role? Just that especially for Darren and Lilia it is one heck of a committment every year)
Am I reading the report wrong? From the BBC thing I get that the 'dance group' will be doing the different dances?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedan...rst_news.shtml
Quote:
“I'm delighted to be welcoming three new fantastic dancers to Strictly and am really excited about the introduction of a professional dance group, giving us even more opportunities to feature different areas of expertise and more genres of dance than in any other series."”
“I'm delighted to be welcoming three new fantastic dancers to Strictly and am really excited about the introduction of a professional dance group, giving us even more opportunities to feature different areas of expertise and more genres of dance than in any other series."”
(Just a thought, as well - do we know for sure that none of the pro's have asked for a less 'hands on' role? Just that especially for Darren and Lilia it is one heck of a committment every year)
God just had an awful thought.....it was bad enough with all the threads asking where Nicole, Camilla and Karen had gone can you just imagine what its going to be like this time !!!!!
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