yeah i love the fact that they are considering rotating the pro's there will be veriety and excitement to see your favourite pro come back. but mind you most pro's dont really stay away for two seasons, DWTS have to seasons a year so they miss one and then come back for the next i think, but with strictly they will miss one whole year :/

It is a consideration that SCD only has one season and then it has been shortened so less time to see your favourite pros. The DWTS often miss more than 2 seasons though and still come back. I think it is a different mindset - they do pro dances when not competing and are still in the loop if a celeb requests them or the producers feel it is a good match. On the fan boards they seem upset but not devasted at the loss of a favourite pro and know they will come back at some point. I think it seems to work in their favor for their other appearances and teaching that they be associated with DWTS even if it is in a lesser role.

I would like to see even more of a change around, something along the lines of SCD & DWTS share/swap pros and no pro dancer allowed to appear in 2 consecutive shows. Everyone (figuratively speaking) moaned last year that the show was getting staid and boring, but the minute changes are made, "everyone" still moans!

If drastic changes had been made every year since the start, then it would have become the norm, and people would perhaps be looking forward to seeing which pros would feature, instead of worrying about those who are not.

According to NOTW, the 4 still to sign have been given an ultimatum to sign up soon or leave....



http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...s-dancers.html

I don't believe the four involved are the type to mess the BBC about or bargain unduly. So there is something in this we don't know, or maybe the BBC are refusing to commit to enough details for them to make a decision.

I wonder if we'll get an official announcement about the new series next week once this has been sorted out.

Maybe the four were waiting for the Pro Tour to be over before making their final decision. I think for everyone concerned though the sooner this is cleared up the better. Its all too uncertain right now

There wouldn't be any reason for Darren and Lilia to do that, unless all four are clubbing together to bargain over pay or other conditions.

IMO the BBC deserves to be messed about a bit

I would suspect that this boils down to money. It usually does.

And if it isn't worthwhile for the gang of four to sign up to a deal that must surely pay less in any case, I can quite understand any hesitation on their part to commit.

However, which half-wit at the BBC thought firing off warnings via the News of the Screws would be a good way of negotiating?

So yes, the BBC absolutely deserves to be messed about!

Yeah, i think they are all sticking together for now to try and do some bargaining.....I do agree that the BBC deserve this, but for the show in general I can also understand why the BBC need it sorted now. They need to put other plans in place should any or all of these 4 not want to sign.

You've got to wonder if the 4 pros will HAVE to make a decision next week,for Ian and Matt esp after the long pro tour they could easily be heading off on hol for a few weeks (Matt has a demo next Friday so will be in the country) and the BBC will need to know ASAP in case they need to recruit 4 other pros for the dance troupe.

The BBC's patience for an answer wil run out and unfortunately they have prob got the pros over a barrel as in "this is the offer take it or leave it"......all depends what that offer is though and if its suitable for any of the 4 of them

I hope the four have all decided and are just stringing the BBC along... much in the BBC tradition of 'yes there will be a new series, we may or may not offer you eight months' work, but we won't be telling you until up to six weeks before training starts. Keep your calendars free'.

If the offer was a joke, they would have said no outright. If it was excellent, they would have said yes outright. I guess it's somewhere in between, and they're all deciding if it's worth it. I'm hoping not, as I want to see Latin Fever again

Well,whatever the offer is you have to think Ian and Matt have talked about it among themselves on the tour and then obviously Darren and Lilia will have........who knows there could be room for negotiation with the BBC or maybe not ??, i can't imagine the not knowing will drag on much longer,for one if the pros decide not to take the offer they need to get themselves out there and be booking more work/demos etc,they may be be walking away from 7-8 mths work and need to fill it with something.

From a purely selfish point of view i'd love to see Ian and Matt do another pro tour next year of the calibre of the one just finished.......if the only way they can do that is under the SCD umbrella then for me it would be good if they recontracted (obviously if the terms are suitable).
I'd hate to think that we would never see them again dancing to that level.

I doubt very much if they would prevaricate just to mess the BBC around. They have probably got the message by now that the BBC thinks that any dancer, irrespective of their past competitive record, is expendable. (Much more important to the BBC will be the celebs and whoever fronts the programme.)

I would imagine that it is not just about the money that is being offered for appearing, but about their long term career prospects and whether the role they are being offered gives them a high enough profile to leverage other opportunies/income off it. Certainly Matt has other interests outside of strictly (teaching, adjudicating and who knows what else) and continuing may simply not be worthwhile when everything is held in balance. Same for each of the other pros who might want to do more serious stuff (e.g. choreography. training of other couples etc.)

Also, not being in strictly or the tour doesn't necessarily mean people won't be able to see them dance in other events (although I guess there could be less geographic coverage in stuff they decide to do outside strictly - who knows? ).

Although I think it was a poor decision in the first instance with regards these pros & the BBC have handled this very badly - I can understand that there does come a point where the BBC need a decision either way.

Like everything in the NOTW, you to have some scepticism.

It may be that the BBC want the 4 to just dance, and the dance genre and choreography will be chosen by 'guest' choreographers, as in SYTYCD.

I wouldn't want to see that. The 4 are very talented choreographers and I would rather see them in charge of doing the choreography. They all have a very good track record at that.

I wanted better show dances, but I wanted them done by the pros that have shown they have the talent. With more time and funding the quality would be excellent - and it would still be SCD, just a better SCD.

Cross-breeding with SYTYCD would be a backward step.

That I totally agree with.

One of the reasons why I was so sceptical when the Pro Tour was mooted last year was the fact that the dancers might not have much creative input themselves (other than their solos perhaps) but this has proved not to be the case so I hope that the BBC dont go down the bring in other choreographers route... (as could be seen from the frankly poor Hairspray routine that the pros had to go with last year).

Unfortunately I can remember Arlene saying that she and other choreographers had had a good meeting with the producer.
That didn't sound good to me.

Yeah I remember that. Words can't express how much I don't want to see choreographers and dancers of that standard being forced to do Arlene's outdated choreo...

Word from one of the '4' today is that they WILL be in the dance troupe. I remarked that Matt, Ian, Lilia and Darren should be the last ones to be outed but then again they have all won I suppose. Lots of 21 year olds as replacements not my cup of tea I'm afraid.

Ian hasn't won... although he has come second and third, and second in the Christmas special at least twice.

Ian hasnt won

Source please?

And as people have said (and Ian pointedly remarked on the last day of the tour), he hasn't won.

As been said already Ian hasn't won and i feel sorry for him the most because of that.


Only one of the replacements are 21 the other two being late20's and 30, so i don't think we can just put it down to just age this time

I am not sure why having ONE very young pro is such an awful thing. Especially if the plan is to partner him with a very young female. I personally get skeeved out when an older male pro partners a very young girl especially with a rumba.. Now if Jared partners someone much older then the cougar aspect would also be weird. Derek Hough was only 22 when he started DWTS and while he looked like a young Ken doll it seemed to work.