Yeah, I've been on her website numerous times and have taken quotes from it and shown them around DS but most people still think it's a load of pretentious rubbish. I just think it'll be a shame that people will not only be voting for her because of how she's been acting, but because of their misconceptions and presumptions about her life outside the house.

That is how it often gets here, unfortunately.

Sometimes, it's best to let excessively negative threads go, let them drift off the front page and into the vast oblivion of old threads, rather than keep them active by arguing back.

BTW, I recommend Mesostim's "blame index" thread. Here are the Shabby posts:


I'm not sure the 2nd post has quite understood how the blame index works, unless its intent is sarcastic. It's beliefs that she's a posh sponger etc (beliefs since she isn't actually those things) that would increase the index so that she was blamed more than she deserved. -- Or alternatively, it's her high blame index that has her sort of squatting treated as if it were that of a posh sponger.

The index is about how much worse (than they are) a HM's actions tend to be seen as being.

Hijack BB's Amy Jackson -- the one who cleaned squares -- also got the "pretentious rubbish" reaction. But some of her stuff (she didn't just clean squares) was very good. Still, she was a "conceptual artist" and therefore her art obviously must be pretentious rubbish.

One thing I like about Shabby, btw, is that she isn't holding back and playing a careful game in the house. She is burning brightly even if it does burn the bridges in front of her.

Time for the Bladerunner quote: The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. And you have burned so very very brightly, ...

yeah, and that probably will be her downfall, but at least she'll have been great while it lasted. I think she came out of this night's HL show very well, but I've heard she was a bit of a madame today so maybe she won't look so good on tomorrow's show. Hope I'm wrong though.

Seems like she's a goner then?

Shame, to be honest I've seen virtually nothing of LF this year so don't really know what she's done to be hated so much but she's still the one I like most from the HLs and think she could be a really good HM if she stays longer. Hopefully something happens to change things by Friday - I don't find Rachael that interesting (like a lot of the HMs) and Sunshine just seems a bit pathetic

I think it could be close, Sunshine seems to be really disliked as well.

Unfortunately, it looks like it will be tomorrow when voting opens -- which could mean right after some unfortunate highlights.

Unfortunate only because of the imo rather odd way that many viewers react to housemates, though. This, for example, will not go down well

Some of the comments on that C4 story are encouraging, though:

BTW, I thought Mario's reason for nominating her was interesting:

Yes, we mustn't have strong personalities in Big Brother!

From the WHATM:

wonder if that's really her playing.

I'm really upset about the amount of critasmn this forum are giving her... it reminds me of Sov in CBB... who I loved.

I hope she stays, and sunshine goes...

I loved Sov too and fear Shabby will go early as well

Interestingly, when I speak to people who only watch the HL's, they want Sunshine to go so there is still hope as long as BB isn't too harsh on her in the HL's.

yeah, I have noticed that Shabby has rarely actually come across badly in the HL shows. I think that might change tonight though when they show her reaction to being nominated, but hopefully it'll be a light edit

The 3 girls were on great form last night -- back (except briefly) to the way they used to be, random and fun, and kind to Rachael when she was upset.

Shabby still had her mouse costume. Sometimes she was wearing parts of it, sometimes Ife was (and Shabby's military jacket was loaned to Rachael a couple of times while Rachael was still up).

Caoimhe had hurt her leg, it became painful, and Ife (!) carried her over-shoulder into the living room, then later into the DR. When Caoimhe came out, she briefly pretended it was serious, which briefly alarmed Ife. Then Shabby and Ife disagreed about whether ice should be in a tea towel or a J-cloth.

BB got into the act by twice sending them on battery-changing missions into the bedroom. (Early task? Hoping to get the other HMs annoyed?)

Caoimhe climbed up to kiss one of the cameras.

And they talked for ages about things that weren't BB or other housemates. It was entertaining even when random. Caoimhe tried to explain something by starting with the universe then working down to what was inside our bodies, eventually arriving at "energy". Then she had some doubts about gravity, thinking there might be energy pushing us down instead. Ife talked about visualisation and "the secret", but what she said made fairly good sense. She pointed out that people did much the same thing when planning ahead, for instance by saving to buy a house. (Those are just some of their topics.)

I think it's my favourite late night so far in bb11.

I liked Sov too.

She came over well last night (though you would never think so from the comments on the forum). The blame index thread is brilliant. I am afraid it is quite right - as soon as Shabby said in rather a posh voice that she was a squatter she was dead in the water, and nothing on earth could have saved her.

Still voting for the unutterably dull and whiny 'Sunshine' (it pains me to call her that) as soon as the lines open though.

I'm sad I missed that as it sounds really interesting and fun. Hope some of it makes the HLs

Yes wonkey, unfortunately from that moment on she was 'evicted housemate walking' - though there is always hope...

I'll be voting to evict Sunshine too, even if all it does is lower the final eviction percentage.

I watched 'till around 3am, it was one of the best nights so far. I don't know if much will make the HL show - JJ was being a complete berk toward Rachael. Still no doubt he'll be forgiven because he's 'fit'

As a Shabby fan, who should I be voting to evict? Don't want to split the vote. Are Shabbyvians voting a particular way to maximise Shabby's chances of staying?

"Shabbyvian" Like it

Anyway I am a Shabbivian and I'm voting Racheal if that helps. Although some of that is due to me not liking her anyway.

Shabbyvians! Love it! I think I'm going to send more votes Sunshines way - I really felt for Rachael last night and I don't think its really fair to evict someone who didn't get enough nominations to face eviction - but I will do one or two for Rach just in case.

Look at the eviction odds thread. Rachael looks safe in every poll. It definitely looks like a two-hander between Shabby and Sunshine. Unless you like Sunshine, I would suggest voting for her.

Possibly (this is a personal point) the first time ever Veri and I have been fighting on the same side.

Shabby looked totally like Fairuza Balk (The Craft version) when she was glaring at Ben at the start of this scene (before he mentioned acting).

Imo, Ben deliberately upset her and then played innocent, just as he did (imo) with Sunshine and his verruca comment.