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How has christina pulled it off?
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delectable
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“I wouldn't worry about it, the other day somebody (can't remember who) was bragging about Bionic going #1 in the USA and Gaga not, well, what happened to that? ”

What do you mean?! They were trying to start arguments?
jkennedy737
13-06-2010
So delighted she's number 1! Can't believe people are trying to tarnish this fact with things like "next w33k she'll drop!111 cus im a mind reada!" and "omggg diz iz only da UK...she's onli goin to #3 in usa so da success here dosnt matta!11"! So annoying..
Ryan-B
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“I wouldn't worry about it, the other day somebody (can't remember who) was bragging about Bionic going #1 in the USA and Gaga not, well, what happened to that? ”

gaga still hasn't had a american number 1 album.

not sure what that has to do with this argument. bionic is set to be number two in america. thats three places higher than the fame monster got if we are playing that game. but i prefer lovegames
TylerTango
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by Ryan-B:
“gaga still hasn't had a american number 1 album.

not sure what that has to do with this argument. bionic is set to be number two in america. thats three places higher than the fame monster got if we are playing that game. but i prefer lovegames ”

Still? She has released two albums, and one if we're being picky.
Muffin999
13-06-2010
This whole lady gaga/christina thing is sure getting old now. I like them both but for different reasons.
Soundburst
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by delectable:
“I used her as a reference of saying having a no.1 does not indicate big sales for that particular single! The same works for albums too!

Yes, we all know they are relative to each other, but this is a rubbish period for sales atm, similiar to the January (although this year Jan was strong ) It just means people sell less to get higher, so their position in a lot of chart watchers in more inflated, as opposed to a no.9 in October say, before the xmas rush starts.”

Yes and I'm telling you that less people buy albums this time of year so obviously the album will sell less. Trying to belittle the achievement makes you look somewhat bitter. I appreciate a whole bunch of people have ran with the "lmao she's gonna flop" and are now being struck with the "whoops she got no.1" but let's be a little adult here.

If it was sold near Christmas then obviously sales would be almost double - just like every other disc in the top100.

Doesn't matter what time of the year material is released - it still needs to sell more than it's contemporaries to get the top spot.

Do you see how this works?
franster
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by Muffin999:
“This whole lady gaga/christina thing is sure getting old now. I like them both but for different reasons.”

I know, its all so childish. I don't know why people can't just accept that GaGa is doing well and Christina has done better than people expected, without having to think up ridiculous excuses.

Does anyone even know how much she has sold to get number one? Because if not the whole argument in this thread is kinda redundant
delectable
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“Yes and I'm telling you that less people buy albums this time of year so obviously the album will sell less. Trying to belittle the achievement makes you look somewhat bitter. I appreciate a whole bunch of people have ran with the "lmao she's gonna flop" and are now being struck with the "whoops she got no.1" but let's be a little adult here.

If it was sold near Christmas then obviously sales would be almost double - just like every other disc in the top100.

Doesn't matter what time of the year material is released - it still needs to sell more than it's contemporaries to get the top spot.

Do you see how this works? ”

Of course I know how it works, hence why lower scale artist release around this time, and after mother's day etc, when sales will be lower, to make more impact! Granted their sales will be lower than at Xmas, but a damn sight higher than an album, which has been out forever....and has no reason to suddenly start selling, bar a price cut!
Anika Hanson
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by delectable:
“Of course I know how it works, hence why lower scale artist release around this time, and after mother's day etc, when sales will be lower, to make more impact! Granted there sales will be lower than at Xmas, but a damn sight higher than an album, which has been out forever....and has no reason to suddenly start selling, bar a price cut! ”

Well by your logic Xtina has done well to get to number one because she has outsold an album which had a price cut and an album by an artist who has just performed on 2 massive shows (Britan's got talent and The world cup concert). Xtina has done no promotion here.
Soundburst
13-06-2010
Exactly.

Regardless of sales you have to outsell your rivals against a whole host lf factors - price, people willing to buy mid month in the summer etc etc.

If she released nearer Christmas shed have a whole bunch of things going for her too. A ballad at Christmas will help it sell at that time too.

Getting to number one at any point on the year is difficult. You outsell your contemporaries in a difficult climate.

Fact is she got no.1 with not one single interview or performance on UKTV.

Presumably she knew shed get to no1 via fans and thus saved her uk promo trip for a few weeks later when she needs to get people who wouldn't usually buy to buy.
delectable
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by Anika Hanson:
“Well by your logic Xtina has done well to get to number one because she has outsold an album which had a price cut and an album by an artist who has just performed on 2 massive shows (Britan's got talent and The world cup concert). Xtina has done no promotion here.”

Not really Alicia, isn't new this week is she?! She wasn't gonna sell 60k this week despite her promo (the WEEK BEFORE)..and tbh the world cup concert impacted on friday and saturday mainly, where Alicia was closing the gap! She is nearing 700,000...things couldn't be much better for her I would put money on her being ahead of Xtina next week!

I do think she has done OK, despite not much promo! But, as I've said whether she entered at no.1 or no.10, doesn't matter to me, as longs as it produces the sales. Beyonce entered at no.10 (peaked at 2) and she sold over a million ......entry positions don't matter, consistency within SALES do in my book!
Official Diva
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by delectable:
“Not really Alicia, isn't new this week is she?! She wasn't gonna sell 60k this week despite her promo (the WEEK BEFORE)..and tbh the world cup concert impacted on friday and saturday mainly, where Alicia was closing the gap! She is nearing 700,000...things couldn't be much better for her I would put money on her being ahead of Xtina next week!

I do think she has done OK, despite not much promo! But, as I've said whether she entered at no.1 or no.10, doesn't matter to me, as longs as it produces the sales. Beyonce entered at no.10 (peaked at 2) and she sold over a million ......entry positions don't matter, consistency within SALES do in my book!”

I'm just wondering why you think Christina won't sell over a long period of time.. I mean what exactly makes you so sure she won't?

Some of the ballads on this are the best she has done imho and there are 2 uptempo numbers that have radio hit written all over them. So providing she picks her singles correctly there is no reason why this couldn't sell a fair amount. I don't think she will ever top the 12 million Stripped sold. But that was a different time and place to the music industry of today.
delectable
13-06-2010
That's fine with me!

I just don't think she will do as well as hoped in today's climate! Part of the problem with it, is as Ryan says she disappears for TOO long! Is Glam on the album or on the movie?

Which goes back to my point in my thread, that Britney can fart out an album, and it will do better worldwide that Xtina, along with singles...and she isn't even talented! Sods law lol!

P.S. No longer argue over this Xtina issue...im bored of it! So future posters ignore everything I have said on the matter. Let's put it to bed!
Soundburst
13-06-2010
The album will do better than Back to Basics which was a slow burner.

Getting a no1 album is extremely important over a no10.

The album will now ACTUALLY GET PROMOTED and will get promoted as "The brand new no1 album from christina aguilera" from this week on. That helps attract buyers - especially when you've done know adverts or appearence on tv thus far.

It'll receive it's first tv advert now that all her fans have bought it and they need the promo to maintain success from non fans.

This week it sold on word of mouth from fans - now due to it's no1 it can get advertised heavily as a "best selling album" for some actual promo.

Joe Bloggs still doesn't know christina has an album out - it has had no promotion. Now it'll get promoted to built on it's initial fan sales.
Anika Hanson
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by delectable:
“Not really Alicia, isn't new this week is she?! She wasn't gonna sell 60k this week despite her promo (the WEEK BEFORE)..and tbh the world cup concert impacted on friday and saturday mainly, where Alicia was closing the gap! She is nearing 700,000...things couldn't be much better for her I would put money on her being ahead of Xtina next week!

I do think she has done OK, despite not much promo! But, as I've said whether she entered at no.1 or no.10, doesn't matter to me, as longs as it produces the sales. Beyonce entered at no.10 (peaked at 2) and she sold over a million ......entry positions don't matter, consistency within SALES do in my book!”

Yes and it was an x-factor performance that really kicked things off for Beyonce and the singles she released after that.

And yes Alicia is doing extermely well and she deserves it the album is amazing. But she didnt debut at number one, The album started off in the top 20 and eventually climbed to number one after she had done several high profile promo spots and released well recieved singles.

If Xtina does some good promo over here and releases good singles she has every chance of Bionic selling well over time.
LucyKay18
13-06-2010
well if people like Tinie Tempah are lovin the album Bionic and have bought it, then that just shows you the fanbase of Xtina and that you can't typecast it!

https://twitter.com/TinieTempah/status/16091865191
jakeknapp89
13-06-2010
I like christina aguilera
shelleyj89
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by LucyKay18:
“well if people like Tinie Tempah are lovin the album Bionic and have bought it, then that just shows you the fanbase of Xtina and that you can't typecast it!

https://twitter.com/TinieTempah/status/16091865191”

I think Tinie Tempah's music is awful, but it's nice to see he has good taste in other people's music!
LucyKay18
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“I think Tinie Tempah's music is awful, but it's nice to see he has good taste in other people's music!”

LOL mte, although Pass out is not bad
shelleyj89
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by LucyKay18:
“LOL mte, although Pass out is not bad ”

I just can't stand him. Like Dizzee Rascal, I don't get the fuss. But he likes Christina, so that counts for something lol
Josh Pinder
13-06-2010
Tinie is right (i think his music is okay, i like labyrinth's production of Pass Out and Frisky more than the lyrics themselves) Bionic is NAAANG (whatever that means, i think it mean AMAZIN'!) it is the album of 2010 by far! and #1 debut is a massive success, i think it may slip slightly over the next couple of weeks then regain when she releases her next single and gets all the more airplay for it! Radio One should promote her music so much more! i would love another uptempo(Glam is a MUST,I think Elastic Love could do great with airplay as well as Desnudate an still in love with Woohoo!) for the summer followed by I Am and all her singles to have video's that provide the direction of the album, something arty and innovative rather than saucy to get the public aware, just really show herself off again, something pop arty and glorious to see really!!

but by the end of the year i think she will definitely hold her own and get great sales of Bionic for sure! and it will widen out her fanbase again too because it's so explorative as we have seen she has her core fanbase topping the chart with Bionic and i hope more people will be aware too, i want sales and longevity to reflect how fantastic Bionic is, it has proved so very well and beneficial and helped me through a lot, it speaks volumes to me really, a proper expressionist album and a real POWER record!!
dirrrty
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by delectable:
“Lol, her album won't sell as much as Rated R at all!

it won't be as consistent sales-wise!

I reckon like a previous poster said, she will rise back in the top 40 and fall back out after each new song....and it stays wont be long either!

This needs to teach her, new album every 2 years at a minimum...cos she's hardly groundbreaking when she returns, is she?! ”

Russian Roulette - 2
Rude Boy - 2

Rated R entered the chart at 16, with 2 hit singles in the UK she can't even get a top 5 album
Clancey83
13-06-2010
Originally Posted by dirrrty:
“Russian Roulette - 2
Rude Boy - 2

Rated R entered the chart at 16, with 2 hit singles in the UK she can't even get a top 5 album ”

Which shows that chart position isn't everything. Rated R peaked at 9 and still has managed to achieve platinum status in the UK so far (remember it is still selling consistantly enough to remain in the top 40) . Whereas Back to Basics went to number 1 and achieved the same platinum status in the UK. So essentially that means more or less the same amount of people have bought both albums, just one was lucky enough to hit the top spot.

I'm not saying Bionic will do the same as Back to Basics because I think it is a stronger album but its a good demonstration that hitting the top spot doesn't automatically make it a bigger hit than an album that hasn't.
da3bool
14-06-2010
Good for Christina that the album is at number 1 but scoring a number 1 in the album charts doesn't mean alot if it's not backed up by good singles in the future. We'll see if Christina can maintain high positions in the upcoming weeks. All she needs to do now is to release worthy singles.

Take Beyonce for example, her album stayed in the charts for weeks and weeks. She even peaked at number 2 after 39 weeks, she would've come at number 1 if it wasn't for Michael Jackson who got it after his tragic death
She was at number 15 after 60 weeks.

Christina doesn't have big competition in the album chart (Alicia's is a bit old now). She now needs to sustain the charts and stay in the top 40 for long. I wish her all the best.
LynxSoldier
14-06-2010
I personally believe it's because the UK hasn't been exposed to much of the negative press surrounding her. We like talent.
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