I agree games can be good despite their look but for me I upgraded to ps4 as a next gen to play next gen games. A lot of the games on my phone look better than some of these ps4 games. I also lived through 8 and 16 bit era and have no interest in returning there.

If plus was optional but online free like ps3 I wouldn't be subbing.

That said fez looks interesting enough for me to play, so looking fwd to 6th aug

EDIT: Also just to add I still think I get good value out of my PS subscription, even as a PS3 only gamer. I just think the last few months have been a bit disappointing.


No Man's Sky is one of the most interesting looking PS4 games IMHO.

Absolutely, that looks amazing. And it received such a good response at E3 so people don't hate indies.

Last I looked, Resogun was voted people's favourite ps4 game in the poll a few threads down.

Let's not confuse hating indies with hating shit games.

oh dear, another disappointing month for PS+

Fez is alright to be fair.

Not a system seller I admit.

Am really, REALLY looking forward to No Mans Sky.

I don't hate Indies whatsoever. I can't be doing with this 8 bit fad though. I remember the 8 bit era fondly but I don't want to relive it often.
I may have a Golf GTI oddly enough I don't want to drive a Trabant.

Not sure what's worse - the people hating on indie games because they're not triple AAA titles that cost millions to make, or the people who accuse anyone of disliking an indie game of doing so just because it's indie.

I have nothing against indie games. No Man's Sky looks incredible. I had great fun with Quantum Conundrum and Limbo, and indeed Brothers. But Towerfall? Road Not Taken? Really? These are not good indie titles. They are derivative and selling on nostalgia. It is a total shame that Journey and Flower (or indeed flOw) have not yet found their way onto the service.

Not played Quantum but I agree that Limbo and Brothers were great games. I wouldn't mind at all if we continued to get indie games of that quality with the odd AAA game thrown in. Not too impressed with the selection this month either though. Road Not Taken reminds me of Don't Starve which I didn't enjoy but I'll give it a go anyway and see. Fez is the one I'm the most interested in as have seen good things said about it. Crysis games bore me.

Apparently Fez is cross-buy so free on PS4, PS3 and Vita while Proteus is cross-buy on PS3 and Vita.

Fez was aparently the greatest thing since sliced bread when it was released as a 360 exclusive in 2012. Were people hyping it up because it wasn't on the PS3 or is it actually a good game and if it is a good game, why are people moaning about it?

I think they should open up the option of downloading as IGC some of the older titles that have allready appeared, not sure how it would work but it would sweeten the deal and stop some of the backlash.

I really enjoyed the PS4 demo, so I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the full game.

Just wanna say if anyone has Trine 2 (PS4) sitting in their download queue and hasn't got round to playing it yet, do it now. Ingenius game design and beautiful to look at - proof indie titles don't all need to be ugly 8-bitters!

I had some mates round last night so we had a few 4-player Towerfall Ascension games. What an effing brilliant laugh! It's a shame some people can't find the love for this game.

I understand that for many people getting 4 DS4s in the same place, at the same time might be quite a big ask at this point in the generation. It's such a pity the game doesn't have online.

At this rate we will be getting flappy bird soon.

Ahem, I think you'll find it'll be Super Flappy Bird HD Complete.

Hmmm. Not a great month for me.

Fez - I have already. Clever game, which never really grabbed me (probably too clever for me).

Road not Taken - looks pretty cool. Can't really work out how it plays so will be interested to give it a go. Love the art

Crysis 3 - Didn't like crysis 2 despite giving a really good go, will add this to the download queue but the series leaves me a bit cold really.

Proteus - pretty abstract for a plus game and surprised to see this as one of the PS3 titles. Good that it is cross buy, so will give it a go on the vita. I was curious about it but the £10 price tag was way too high.

Lego Harry Potter - I have and have completed. Fun game, but I love the Lego games. Surprised to see two lego games back to back on the vita.

Metrico - Looks okay. Only got a 6.5 on IGN, but I will give it a go.

I've downloaded both Fux and that other crap game, not expecting much, really getting sick and tired of these indie game offerings, haven't played one up to now that I've liked. If I wanted to play pap like this then I would get my commodore 64 out of the attic. FFS!

Have you not liked any at all ?

Resogun?
Contrast?
Dead Nation?
Trine 2 ?
Don't Starve ?

It's not that they're "indie", it's that they look like they'd comfortably run on a SNES.

People want something that will show off the PS4; it doesn't have to be a triple-A game or even particularly large/long, something which looks great, plays great but is completed in an hour would be preferable to me.

Resogun, Stick It to the Man for example weren't AAA but they looked good and I didn't feel like I was playing a game from 1993.

Otherwise, what's the point in having a PS4? These games would comfortably run on any previous Playstation system.

I think the problem is we've been well and truely spoilt by PS+ on PS3.

Giving out full, AAA retail games this early in the PS4s life cycle just hasn't been an option yet. As for the smaller / indie games, what else fits the bill? I think Sony have been doing the best they can with what they've got.

It's not as if Sony can throw anything out there. They have to do deals with the individual publishers.

If things don't improve by the end of the year, then there's definitely cause for complaint, but for now I think just a little more patience is needed.

Anyway, mini-Driveclub will be available in 2 months. Plenty to show off the PS4 there.

The PC Paint meets Flower game on PS3 was actually reasonably enjoyable. Although I am not exactly sure the point, but it did seem a nice chilled out game.


I think the problem was making DriveClub the announcement game for PS4 PS+, it set expectations. It doesn't help that in the age of the internet we know Japan has Knack on PS+.

I completely agree with your post and the reason why we haven't got big retail games yet but I feel if it had been announced better by Sony there may have been less disappointment.

Wow. Tried both ps4 plus games. Not for me. Even my wife was shocked over fez. Wondered if I was maybe playing the vita version but don't think it would let you do that.

I mean fez is 7.99 and road is 11.99.
Why didn't they negotiate for pure pool which at least looks next gen which is around the 7 quid Mark without discounts.

I didn't know Knack was on Japan's PS+, I thought it was given away with the console.

i thought the same too