This has been an annual event if you play Football Manager. The first couple of days are always a bit dodgy server wise and you have to activate to play the game.

This will only get worse with digital-only becoming the norm as the cost of upgrading the servers to cope with the spike in demand around releases will not be justified. This won't be localised to just Sony.

I no longer aim to take off the day when FM comes out. I generally take the Monday rather than the Friday as the game can be unplayable at launch.

I am looking at the weekend after Dragon Age:Inquisition comes out to take some time off. It is not ideal but that's the way the world works.

And of course we have those idiot hackers daily trying to take down Microsoft's and Sony's servers. Someone should really go round to their places with a baseball bat - you know, to teach them how to hit a home run - IYSWIM.

need to renew PS+ FOR myself (gdjman68wasdigi) and maxjones04

didnt bother as my internet was terrible until recently

Dont you just renew for yourself and Let's him get access via the primary thing.

This, you can have your account on another PS3/4 and then provided you trust the person (I do it with my brother) you can have it to save your login details so once a month then can download the PS Plus games on there console and then play them

Not sure how it would work on PS4 though, probably the same as long as one account has plus everyone on the console will have online

It works a bit differently on the 4 than it did on the 3. I gave my brother my details too.

It's all about the primary and secondary account setup.

You can give somebody else your details to log in on their ps4 but they can only play your games on your account, as you have set the ps4 as the secondary ps4 for your account.

That doesn't make much sense, I think.

It makes perfect sense to sony and really the only ones youd now share with woukd be a close relative.
You have to make the console you're sharing with the primary console so they can play on any account. Obviously that then ties your own console down to being the secondary account and can only play on your own login only.

1 ps4. 1 vita, 2 accounts and 1 ps plus sub..

What do I do??

1 ps4 .. 2 accounts. Set up the 2 accounts on the ps4 - no problem there.

1 vita .. You can only set up one account on the vita. So use the account that has the plus sub.

will both accounts have plus if i set up the vita account as the primary??

Well if you set both accounts as primary on your ps4, then you can play plus games on both of them with just the one subscription. I'm unsure about the cloud storage tho.

Has anyone with a U.S. account tried activating the free 14 day PS+ trial? I was hoping to use it to play Driveclub a couple of days early but the option's not there. I've never had PS+ on that account so I should be eligible, unless I'm missing something or there's an IP lock-out.

Lol. Somebody is itching for some Driveclub.

What gave it away?

I need some next-gen racing. I'm even considering grabbing and Xbox One for some Forza Horizon 2 to pass the days.

Gonna see if Need For Speed can distract me for a bit.

May I suggest you put yourself into a cryogenic sleep for 2 days ?

Sounds like I'm the only one not to have played Batman AA before. Really looking forward to it.

That could work.

Seems you can only get the 14 day trial if you have a US credit card registered, which obviously I don't have.

Ouch.

Smart thinking Sony, you b@stards.

Yeah. Wonder how much I can get a $10 card for.......?

I want to renew my subscription a little early, it usually runs out around December, and I just want to confirm if I renew my subscription now it gets added to the end of my subscription and I don't lose my two months that I have left?

It stacks up, so you'll have 14 months left if you buy it now

I've just bought Shadow of Mordor and Alien Isolation I'm no where need completing either and today is one of the best PS Plus months in recent memory for me

Damn it why couldn't we have all good games during the summer when almost nothing is released and then shitty Plus game in October/November when all the big games come out

I'm going to try Driveclub and Dust straight away and then go back to my retail games

when do these games appear on the store? it's still showing last month's?

Normally 4 - 5pm this afternoon.

DriveClub should be along sometime Friday IF they have sorted out their servers by then.

Thats the new games up, although have to search manually.

Cheers. All bought.