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Would like to see The Horror Channel in HD. The SD version is quite poor quality,
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Wonder if there will be really HD at some point?
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Wonder if there will be really HD at some point?
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Surely with the increasing amount of comedies we have in HD now it will not be to long until we have Gold HD, I don't see it coming this year but next year?.
Apart from that Fox News is in HD in America so why not over here as sometimes on the miniature graphics you see Fox HD, also aren't we expecting CNNi HD at some point?. Other than that unless we have any surprises I wonder when we will have more HD channels. |
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Surely with the increasing amount of comedies we have in HD now it will not be to long until we have Gold HD, I don't see it coming this year but next year?.
Apart from that Fox News is in HD in America so why not over here as sometimes on the miniature graphics you see Fox HD, also aren't we expecting CNNi HD at some point?. Other than that unless we have any surprises I wonder when we will have more HD channels. CNNi HD is supposed to be coming this year but they keep changing the projection dates so your guess is as good as mine! GOLD HD has been needed for yonks and never come, so don't hold your breath |
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I would have thought UKTV would make Really the next to have an HD varient, given they are showing newly aquired US programming.
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Probably. What I really want to see is Dave HD on the new Freeview HD muxes!
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'London Live' launches on Monday 31st March 2014, details here- http://www.a516digital.com/2014/01/l...-date-but.html
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'London Live' launches on Monday 31st March 2014, details here- http://www.a516digital.com/2014/01/l...-date-but.html
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Wow. I honestly can't believe that a fledgling channel who will want maximum exposure would shun Freesat. Surely Sky wouldn't be paying them anything, why would they? Quote:
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"We are only 'allowed' to be viewed within the UK as part of our operating regulations. As Freesat can't encrypt content for UK transmission only, you won't be able to watch London Live on their platform."
To be honest I hope these local channels crash and burn, can't see any use for them at all. Doubt they will though; being an idea of the government I'm sure they'll subsidise them so they can't fail. |
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Wow. I honestly can't believe that a fledgling channel who will want maximum exposure would shun Freesat. Surely Sky wouldn't be paying them anything, why would they?
What nonsense. The narrow-beam transponder is good enough protection for every other major broadcaster, why wouldn't it be for a local channel? To be honest I hope these local channels crash and burn, can't see any use for them at all. Doubt they will though; being an idea of the government I'm sure they'll subsidise them so they can't fail. Wow what a load of bollocks. The narrow beam would be more than good enough. if it is for BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and so on, what does a local tv channel think it is? Sky Sports or something!! Its stupidity like this that makes them deserve to die on their arses. Freesat is not a platform to be ignored. |
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I suppose their thinking is that with Sky they can have soft encryption so that the transmission will be freely viewable to anyone with a Sky box (theoretically just the UK) but not a generic satellite receiver or Freesat box.
I agree it's total nonsense however. The narrow beam footprint was set up for the precise purpose of restricting transmissions to the UK and reassuring copyright holders of this. Sorry to be a bit off-topic but I'm puzzled as to why Freesat is referred to as a platform. My understanding was that it was purely an epg. Does it now have its own transponders? I get very confused when I read some forum comments that pictures look better on Freesat than Sky, when the signal is exactly the same! If there is any difference it would purely be down to the performance of the receiver, I would've thought. |
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Hardly nonsense but economic sense - rights fees for FTV satellite transmission can be considerably less than those for FTA broadcast. Content providers have realised that the so-called UK footprints of satellites at 28 E are not as restrictive as they would like and are receivable across half of Spain, half of Germany and most of France (and all the countries in between) with moderately sized dishes (up to 1m). So unless UK broadcasters switch to Ka band and tightly focussed satellites (as per Saorsat) then this is going to be a sticking point for minor broadcasters for years to come.
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They've bought programmes from the likes of BBC and C4. Have they bought UK rights, or London rights? It may be the latter, in which case encryption on satellite may be necessary.
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If this is a local TV channel isnt it supposed to be a PSB of some kind? If so then it needs to be available to freesat viewers! Or dich Dsat altogether, but that might not be allowed ether I dont know?
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They've bought programmes from the likes of BBC and C4. Have they bought UK rights, or London rights? It may be the latter, in which case encryption on satellite may be necessary.
London Live will air on Freeview channel 8, available to Freeview and YouView viewers within range of transmitters at Crystal Palace and Croydon. Sky subscribers in the London region will see the channel on 117, while Virgin Media viewers in the capital will be able to watch on channel 159. So it looks like it's not a UK wide channel, just for Londoners. |
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Looks like London rights...
London Live will air on Freeview channel 8, available to Freeview and YouView viewers within range of transmitters at Crystal Palace and Croydon. Sky subscribers in the London region will see the channel on 117, while Virgin Media viewers in the capital will be able to watch on channel 159. So it looks like it's not a UK wide channel, just for Londoners. |
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Yes, but the question is if it will be viewable outside of London through 'Other Channels'.
If they are going by postcode, I wonder how far out they'll go. Just the N S W E postcodes, or will they go further out (TW etc - which is also served by Crystal Palace)? |
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^ How can they restrict the satellite broadcast to a small local area? There are no 'micro beams' as far as I know, therefore I'm sure it'll be available outside London on 'other channels'. It's like BBC 1 East appearing on EPG channel 1 if you're in the Cambridge area, yet still being available elsewhere in the country on a different part of the EPG.
It'll be interesting to see whether the other local TV operations in the UK adopt the same methods as the London company. |
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^ How can they restrict the satellite broadcast to a small local area? There are no 'micro beams' as far as I know, therefore I'm sure it'll be available outside London on 'other channels'. It's like BBC 1 East appearing on EPG channel 1 if you're in the Cambridge area, yet still being available elsewhere in the country on a different part of the EPG.
It'll be interesting to see whether the other local TV operations in the UK adopt the same methods as the London company. You cannot add BBC One Scotland HD, or STV HD for example. |
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Or itv east ... Which is not elsewhere on EPG .
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I'm pretty sure Sky can specify which postcodes can receive a certain channel in the Sky package, or have them broadcast on non-standard frequencies that cannot be added manually.
You cannot add BBC One Scotland HD, or STV HD for example. |
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^ Thanks for clearing that up.
I just checked and the Scottish HD channels mentioned above are definitely transmitted in the clear and can be received on Freesat boxes when out of the target TX area. Therefore my point remains and I would expect the local London channel to be available outside London on the Sky box's 'other channels' setting. Whether it's worth bothering is another matter.
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Or itv east ... Which is not elsewhere on EPG .
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^ Thanks for clearing that up.
I just checked and the Scottish HD channels mentioned above are definitely transmitted in the clear and can be received on Freesat boxes when out of the target TX area. Therefore my point remains and I would expect the local London channel to be available outside London on the Sky box's 'other channels' setting. Whether it's worth bothering is another matter. ![]()
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