actually yes, Nadia looks quite hard, and could get the better of Vic 
Nadia's transexual state- you would have to be blind ! (merged)
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Originally Posted by F1 Mike:
“naaa, still a man .......... in fact, no, you can't really say man can you ......
definately not a woman either, so ..... somewhere in the middle ..... a thing
I guess that's why I said 'it' before
”
“naaa, still a man .......... in fact, no, you can't really say man can you ......
definately not a woman either, so ..... somewhere in the middle ..... a thing
I guess that's why I said 'it' before
”
No she isnt a thing
, she's a human being
I believe the term is "it's" a human being
sorry, I'm just havin' a laugh, I'm not being serious
If he wants to be a she, then let her get rid of himself
sorry, I'm just havin' a laugh, I'm not being serious
If he wants to be a she, then let her get rid of himself
Originally Posted by rosemary:
“No she isnt a thing , she's a human being”
“No she isnt a thing
, she's a human being”
exactly...... there's plenty to criticise the hms about, but calling Nadia names is plain ignorance
The others probably have guessed, but are too polite to ask her outright.
But its easy for us to say its obvious, because we were told. If we had not of been told, we would be here dicussing "Is she or isn't she?"... like the HM's are in their own minds probably. :0)
E-M xx
But its easy for us to say its obvious, because we were told. If we had not of been told, we would be here dicussing "Is she or isn't she?"... like the HM's are in their own minds probably. :0)
E-M xx
>what does it say on his birth cert.... MALE!
Not for long ! and all because of this immature and narrow minded subset of humanity who can't let go of their penises for two seconds because their knuckles would drag on the floor.
God forbid any of you have children ever develop gender dsyphoria.
Not for long ! and all because of this immature and narrow minded subset of humanity who can't let go of their penises for two seconds because their knuckles would drag on the floor.
God forbid any of you have children ever develop gender dsyphoria.
Pretty sure h/she told Victor late at night 3am ish.. he said something like really.. I'd never guessed.
Originally Posted by Mew:
“However I'm sure by know all the housemates (except Emma) have realised there is something unusual about Nadia but I expect most are to polite to directly ask "Are you a bloke love or just plain ugly"”
“However I'm sure by know all the housemates (except Emma) have realised there is something unusual about Nadia but I expect most are to polite to directly ask "Are you a bloke love or just plain ugly"”
LOL, Delicately put Mew.
Slightly off topic, but I think this Alan Partridge quote sums it up pretty well too.
"If the Elephant Man came in here now, with some lipstick on and a nice dress, and said 'How do I look?', would you, - bearing in mind that he's depressed and has respiratory problems - would you say 'take that blusher off, you ugly mis-shapen headed elephant tranny?'"
Originally Posted by andrewr:
“From the moment I saw her she seemed odd. Within a few moments it was obvious she was not all she.
Why is it taking the housemates so long to tell?
Andrew R.”
“From the moment I saw her she seemed odd. Within a few moments it was obvious she was not all she.
Why is it taking the housemates so long to tell?
Andrew R.”
Careful. I expressed an opinion similar to yours. The intellectually challenged contributors to the thread saw that as a sufficiently good reason to call me sexist. Hetty (Mrs)
Will s/he start to grow facial hair. If she does, everyone will find out. Or will she do a Tim a start shaving under the covers
how many days will it be, before a cameraman catches Trevor having a cheeky shave of her chin under the duvet ( a la ginger tosspot Tim BB3)
answer's on a postcard to:
Beardwatch
BBLB
answer's on a postcard to:
Beardwatch
BBLB
Given that she has had a full sex change which also involves manipulating the balance of hormones in her body (most notably the removal of the testicles where testosterone is produced) she won't be growing male pattern body hair.
While you and others may consider her a freak - think about this. She has a sufficiently strong female body image/psychology that she turned her whole life upside down and changed herself to make herself happier. She is NOT a freak show.
While you and others may consider her a freak - think about this. She has a sufficiently strong female body image/psychology that she turned her whole life upside down and changed herself to make herself happier. She is NOT a freak show.
Nadia is post-operative and presumably takes hormones (housemates would assume its the pill...) so she wouldn't have any more facial hair growth than other women.
Sorry to ruin the fun
Sorry to ruin the fun
Ah, without_reason beat me to it.
I could not emphasise your points about her not being a freak show enough. To go through what she has been through and come out the other side happy, Nadia is a remarkably well-balanced lady.
I could not emphasise your points about her not being a freak show enough. To go through what she has been through and come out the other side happy, Nadia is a remarkably well-balanced lady.
A reminder that transphobic comments are regraded as offensive and so are not welcome here, this includes refering to a person as "it" - if you really find it so hard to respect her now female status by saying 'she' then please refer to her by her name, Nadia.
Beth.
Beth.
>A reminder that transphobic comments are regraded as ?>offensive and so are not welcome here,
Hear Hear !!!
Hear Hear !!!
Why are people being so horrible about Nadia. IMHO she is incredibley brave in not only following what here mind and body were telling her and coming out of it the other side a well balanced (as far as can be seen so far) nice person and going infront of the country in BB. She is attractive visually and more importantly personality wise.
Perhaps if more people were as singularly-minded committed to a belief as she has been, then we wouldn't be witnessing the silly behaviour we are in the house at the moment from the rebel without a cause.
Perhaps if more people were as singularly-minded committed to a belief as she has been, then we wouldn't be witnessing the silly behaviour we are in the house at the moment from the rebel without a cause.
Originally Posted by clarissa:
“Why are people being so horrible about Nadia. IMHO she is incredibley brave in not only following what here mind and body were telling her and coming out of it the other side a well balanced (as far as can be seen so far) nice person and going infront of the country in BB. She is attractive visually and more importantly personality wise.
Perhaps if more people were as singularly-minded committed to a belief as she has been, then we wouldn't be witnessing the silly behaviour we are in the house at the moment from the rebel without a cause.”
“Why are people being so horrible about Nadia. IMHO she is incredibley brave in not only following what here mind and body were telling her and coming out of it the other side a well balanced (as far as can be seen so far) nice person and going infront of the country in BB. She is attractive visually and more importantly personality wise.
Perhaps if more people were as singularly-minded committed to a belief as she has been, then we wouldn't be witnessing the silly behaviour we are in the house at the moment from the rebel without a cause.”
Hear Hear!
Nadia should be considered as a woman. She's probably gone through a lot of pain and torment to become one.
Unfortunately, you can spot her past from two things hormones will have no effect on. First, is the size of her head and face. The second is her voice. Nadia has a male bone structure and proportionally much bigger head, jaw and face area than a genetic female would have. Her voice obviously broke before she changed her gender and there is no way to really change it, other than adopting an affected and squeaky voice.
I agree with the views on here that she should be respected and not termed as 'it' or 'that' etc. People who use that sort of cruel terminology should look at themselves as people before being offensive to others.
Unfortunately, you can spot her past from two things hormones will have no effect on. First, is the size of her head and face. The second is her voice. Nadia has a male bone structure and proportionally much bigger head, jaw and face area than a genetic female would have. Her voice obviously broke before she changed her gender and there is no way to really change it, other than adopting an affected and squeaky voice.
I agree with the views on here that she should be respected and not termed as 'it' or 'that' etc. People who use that sort of cruel terminology should look at themselves as people before being offensive to others.
Originally Posted by maelstrom:
“exactly...... there's plenty to criticise the hms about, but calling Nadia names is plain ignorance”
“exactly...... there's plenty to criticise the hms about, but calling Nadia names is plain ignorance”
I agree that was totally out of line
I don't care what she was.... at the moment she is entertaining telly.. much more fun than Milly Tant
I'd much rather sit next to Nadia on a long haul flight than some of the others in that house. From what I've seen she seems to have a really nice personality and seems very amiable.
As to why they haven't twigged yet? Maybe they have, but could you imagine the embarrassment if they were wrong!! I work with a woman in my present job who looks FAR more manly than Nadia does. My co-worker is definitely a female (she has five kids), but I would NEVER even hint to her looking like a bloke.
What's the old adage? "It's whats inside that counts" or some such thing.
As to why they haven't twigged yet? Maybe they have, but could you imagine the embarrassment if they were wrong!! I work with a woman in my present job who looks FAR more manly than Nadia does. My co-worker is definitely a female (she has five kids), but I would NEVER even hint to her looking like a bloke.
What's the old adage? "It's whats inside that counts" or some such thing.
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