About time for more channels on freesat????

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beerhunter2

28-06-2010

Originally Posted by Jepson:
“What's really annoying is the way Ofcom and the ASA roll over on their backs and allow them to do so.”

The problem facing the ISPs however, is that they don't actually know at what speed a line can run until the service is installed.

Second there isn't much an ISP can do if a subscriber lives a long way from their Local Exchange.

Finally the costs to the ISPs are exactly the same no matter what speed they can deliver to the subscriber. So they price on the amount of data that runs over their network - which does have variable costs.

Jepson

28-06-2010

Originally Posted by beerhunter2:
“The problem facing the ISPs however, is that they don't actually know at what speed a line can run until the service is installed.

Second there isn't much an ISP can do if a subscriber lives a long way from their Local Exchange.

Finally the costs to the ISPs are exactly the same no matter what speed they can deliver to the subscriber. So they price on the amount of data that runs over their network - which does have variable costs.”

Yes.

I don't object to them not being able to provide an 8Mbs service. It's not something they have any control over.

It's the fact that they know that the vast majority of people will not be able to get even half that speed and yet still insist on using a headline of 8Mbs.

Rather the same as the area allowed to, and do, offer unlimited services with limits on them. Again, I've no objection to the limits, just the fundamentally dishonest description of the service.

joshua_welby

28-06-2010

Another Channel coming to Freesat is Vintage TV

It has just been posted on the Digital Spy website

For more information click on the link below
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...y-freesat.html

nigelbb

28-06-2010

Originally Posted by Jepson:
“Yes.

I don't object to them not being able to provide an 8Mbs service. It's not something they have any control over.

It's the fact that they know that the vast majority of people will not be able to get even half that speed and yet still insist on using a headline of 8Mbs.

Rather the same as the area allowed to, and do, offer unlimited services with limits on them. Again, I've no objection to the limits, just the fundamentally dishonest description of the service.”

The ISPs certainly are able to offer higher speeds to more of their customers but they just choose not to by not investing in the infrastructure. That is the same reason why their so-called 'unlimited' services are in fact limited & shaped because they have over-sold their network capacity.

Jepson

28-06-2010

Originally Posted by nigelbb:
“The ISPs certainly are able to offer higher speeds to more of their customers but they just choose not to by not investing in the infrastructure. That is the same reason why their so-called 'unlimited' services are in fact limited & shaped because they have over-sold their network capacity.”

I think we may be talking at cross purposes here.

I'm referring to the local loop which is the responsibility of OpenReach, even if 'unbundled'. This cabling is something over which the ISP's have no control and the quality and length of it determine the maximum rate that data can pass between the customer and the exchange.

No matter how much they invest in 'backbone' infrastructure they can't change that.

tvmad-alan

30-06-2010

Trouble of ISP's is that they have used the word "Broadband" to which many think of speed after the slower speeds of modems 13, 33, 56K then X2.

Also the public and ISP companies have a trouble of that the speed of the Internet is down to any part of the system,so any part that make the link slow ( software, Hardware ) can make all slower.

But the ISP must be made to place adverts that point the real speed out in larger print and stop " up to "

Freesat has BBC iplayer which had to be made with a real speed of the UK of around 2mbps even with so many having 8 and above that have freesat...

Iplayer has given freesat more then sky or freeview has at this time...

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