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homer911
31-05-2004
we all know about victor and the way he acts and yeah i would not say it is the best way in the world but atleast there is something to talk about unlike some people in the house. i also understand that people don't like it but to say that he might actual abuse one of the girls is out of order. i have read comments like the only sex that might happen in the house is rape or that they should check his bag for rohypnol (spelling?) or if there is an "incident" in the house they would have to charge in and stop it. Now i do not know the guy personally so i do not know if he was capable of doing that but neither do other people so i really do think it is wrong to say something like that. He acts no different that alot of guys does that mean they are going to go out and do something like that?.
Yes he acts like a bit of an idiot which could be a front i don't know but why do people actually think he would do something like that i really want to know.
cazkins
31-05-2004
I haven't made any comments about Victor so far but my first impressions, after hearing him talk about women and seeing the way he looks at them, are that he's the sort of bloke I would feel uncomfortable around and I would certainly avoid putting myself into a vulnerable situation around him.
mr_ray
31-05-2004
I agree with you 100% here. He acts very "laddish" in that respect but there's no way on earth that I'd see him as some kind of potential rapist. Once you get past that show he puts on at times seems a nice guy.
donnaBC
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by cazkins:
“I haven't made any comments about Victor so far but my first impressions, after hearing him talk about women and seeing the way he looks at them, are that he's the sort of bloke I would feel uncomfortable around and I would certainly avoid putting myself into a vulnerable situation around him.”

Michelle has already noticed him flirting with her she was talking to Marco about it yesterday.
Vertigo1
31-05-2004
I made the comment about storming in to stop incidents.

I was merely making the point that BB must be watching carefully and have plans in place to get in there at a moment's notice should something happen. This could be anything - someone could fall and break their neck, someone could have a major accident in the kitchen, hell someone could be murdered for all we know.

The speculation over Victor is what made me think about BB having such plans in place, I wasn't claiming he was likely to do anything.

Besides some sort of accident, I actually think the most likely reason they'd storm in is if Kitten got serious drunk and became genuinely threatening towards the other housemates. Judging by the story I posted a link to in another thread, it would appear there is precedent for this.

Come to think of it, I do find it surprising that in the four years BB has been running, totalling over eight months in the various houses, that there has never been a serious accident involving blood or broken bones.
Opaque
31-05-2004
I agree I would have expected at least a fist fight.
Vertigo1
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Opaque:
“I agree I would have expected at least a fist fight.”

Now that's a more interesting scenario. What exactly would BB do if there was a punch-up. Would they wade in immediately to stop it, or let it run, and if the latter, how far would they let it go before stopping it.
Swipe
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Vertigo1:
“Now that's a more interesting scenario. What exactly would BB do if there was a punch-up. Would they wade in immediately to stop it, or let it run, and if the latter, how far would they let it go before stopping it.”

I would expect any act of violence towards another HM would result in immediate dismissal from the house
skalr
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Vertigo1:
“Now that's a more interesting scenario. What exactly would BB do if there was a punch-up. Would they wade in immediately to stop it, or let it run, and if the latter, how far would they let it go before stopping it.”

let it finish for the ratings, take the person who started it and the way BB5 is acting give them a warning or at worst a strike
epsom
31-05-2004
Victor is typical of the majority of White and Black Working Class men of that age. Club 18-30 and other like company's cater for them. It's a big market.
Mirage
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Vertigo1:
“Now that's a more interesting scenario. What exactly would BB do if there was a punch-up. Would they wade in immediately to stop it, or let it run, and if the latter, how far would they let it go before stopping it.”

You could be sure of one thing, we would get roof cam and only see what edited bits they felt we should see.
elvis1971
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Vertigo1:
“Now that's a more interesting scenario. What exactly would BB do if there was a punch-up. Would they wade in immediately to stop it, or let it run, and if the latter, how far would they let it go before stopping it.”

If i was in charge i let it run a while depending who was involved
epsom
31-05-2004
Guys like Ahmed and Dan would wade in and stop a fight.
Mew
31-05-2004
IMHO, Victor and Stew are both [Edit] Heads but I have found Victors Diary room attacks on Kitten (rightly or wrongly) very amusing.
robbies_gal
31-05-2004
Victor would make me incredibly uncomfortable aswell-i dont like his attitude towards women (no im not a feminist) or the way he looks at them

he thinks hes the dogs and bascially-hes not at all
Mr Blonde
31-05-2004
Hes just a bit of a bloke...he doesnt do anyone any harm...go into town on a friday night and youll see hundreds of blokes like him...hes a good laugh...
dome
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“Hes just a bit of a bloke...he doesnt do anyone any harm...go into town on a friday night and youll see hundreds of blokes like him...hes a good laugh...”


Any self assured woman would just laugh at his corny chat up lines.

He and Kitten are the most self-obsessed individuals in there.
Mr Blonde
31-05-2004
The difference between him and kitten is that victor is more genuine and more entertaining...its like having ali g in there or eminem and he comes out with amazing one liners...kitten just seems to moan all day long...victor is a chilled out entertainer...
Pitman
31-05-2004
he's not a bad bloke, just an arse in a hat.
robbies_gal
31-05-2004
well im not so self assured
Cerinthe
31-05-2004
IMO Victor is about false bravado.
To use an analogy, some male birds puff up theirr feathers and prance around bobbing up and down to get attention of the female birds. It's all done as a display for the female, not because they are in 'conrol' or have the 'power'.
If I was in the house he wouldn't worry me. I think that it would be very easy to deflate his ego and that's why he is trying to do a good act of self preservation in verbally boosting himself up.
I haven't read the posts about rhohypnol (sp?) etc... but really ... that is very extreem, firstly to even think a HM would contemplate using it and secondly that they would try and take it into BB!?!
Hetty Harelip
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by homer911:
“we all know about victor and the way he acts and yeah i would not say it is the best way in the world but atleast there is something to talk about unlike some people in the house. i also understand that people don't like it but to say that he might actual abuse one of the girls is out of order. i have read comments like the only sex that might happen in the house is rape or that they should check his bag for rohypnol (spelling?) or if there is an "incident" in the house they would have to charge in and stop it. Now i do not know the guy personally so i do not know if he was capable of doing that but neither do other people so i really do think it is wrong to say something like that. He acts no different that alot of guys does that mean they are going to go out and do something like that?.
Yes he acts like a bit of an idiot which could be a front i don't know but why do people actually think he would do something like that i really want to know.”

You are correct, idle specualtion about what he is or is not capable of serves little purpose and would be grossly unfair, because it IS just speculation. However, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that he is a penis-obsessed moron, ill-mannered, sexist, crude and vulgar, and extraordinarily dense. It would be unreasonable to draww attention to his flabby chest and his monstrous behind. Actions speak louder than words. Every acts of Victor's is a further indictment of the oaf.
Mesostim
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“You are correct, idle specualtion about what he is or is not capable of serves little purpose and would be grossly unfair, because it IS just speculation. However, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that he is a penis-obsessed moron, ill-mannered, sexist, crude and vulgar, and extraordinarily dense. It would be unreasonable to draww attention to his flabby chest and his monstrous behind. Actions speak louder than words. Every acts of Victor's is a further indictment of the oaf.”

Now that I can agree with
plums
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by homer911:
“i have read comments like the only sex that might happen in the house is rape or that they should check his bag for rohypnol (spelling?) or if there is an "incident" in the house they would have to charge in and stop it. . (Edited to keep this short )”

I agree entirely. And does anyone seriously beleive that a guy who won't show his nipples on TV in case he upsets his Mum would really abuse any of the women in there ?

Are we in the 21st century or have we still got a few viewers who used to live in the American Deep South ?

The only "danger to women" I've seen on BB was Geordie Jonny and his OTT "playfulness" with Kate etc
maelstrom
31-05-2004
so his mum would be upset if she saw his nipples, but hearing him talk about 'laying pipe' is okay?
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