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Kitten - lying about past?
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dome
31-05-2004
Liandra.

I suppose we should all try and get her name right as she will no doubt enter the house as she took part in the auditions.

It's pretty obvious that C4 want sex in the house by fair means or foul.
ludovica
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by hilary:
“Leander must know the truth, as must her family. What must they think watching her lie about her past? How embarrassed would her parents be, having provided her with an evidently comfy and rich childhood, watching her tell the public that she was a prostitute at 16? ”

"How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a
thankless child! " This of course might be the point, she's not done punishing them yet for giving her all these amazing opportunities to f*ck up
ludovica
31-05-2004
Addendum: Seems possible.. You give someone opportunity.. they see it as another hurdle, something they can't live up to?
Midspan
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by ludovica:
“"How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a
thankless child! "”

They probably won't even have the satisfaction of seeing her conceive a child, so that it may stamp wrinkles in her brow, and turn her pains to laughter and contempt.
Alrightmate
31-05-2004
Middle class people live perfect, blemish-free lifes, and go through life without a care in the world.

As with all middle class people here, it's like living in Utopia for them, and they never, ever go astray and live wayward lives. Their parents love them, understand them,....and it's a perfect life and nothing in the world can possibly spoil it, ever, nothing can ever, ever go wrong.

And it's pure fantasy to even dream that Middle class people end up homeless or become prostitutes.........it simply doesn't happen. Get real.
It's a life of milk and honey for the middle classes, everybody should know that.
ludovica
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Middle class people live perfect, blemish-free lifes, and go through life without a care in the world.

As with all middle class people here, it's like living in UTOPIA for them, and they never, ever go astray and live wayward lives. Their parents love them, understand them,....and it's a perfect life and nothing in the world can possibly spoil it, ever, nothing can ever, ever go wrong.

And it's pure fantasy to even gream that Middle class people end up homeless or become prostitutes.........it simply doesn't happen. Get real.”

i presume you are being ironic?
Alrightmate
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by bob.stone:
“"It was the worst year of my life", she said.”

I think a few bad months can ruin an entire year.
One DAY can make that particular year the worst year of your life.
Alrightmate
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by ludovica:
“i presume you are being ironic?”

You thought I was serious?

ludovica
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“You thought I was serious?

”

You can never tell with some of the rabid people on here!
suez_channel
31-05-2004
I was dubious about her living in a squat with 30 people when she complained about being cold like a fretful child the night she exiled herself from the dorm. She hasn't had the edges knocked off her if she has lived life in the raw or even in a commune not many people would have any patience with her attention-seeking behaviour.
But what am I saying -- all the others think the planet revolves round them too.
ludovica
31-05-2004
Living in a squat isnt so demanding. Most of the time you're just stepping over people who are off their faces
mdma
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Plug:
“And just for added piss-take points, they're denstonecollege dot ORG.

At least Eton has the respect to be .com ...”


i live near to denstone (its very close to alton towers). for added information, one of the who wants to be a millionaire, millionaire winners is a lecturer at denstone.
trouble
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Well it happens even now. A friend was approached recently by a teenager outside a shop who offered that very thing and she was on the wrong side of 16.

I can't see why Kitten would make up something like that, it serves her no purpose and would have generated her the wrong coverage even if she did plan it.”

It would serve her a purpose, she's going for the sympathy vote.
What sounds better, I was abused and had to prostitute myself, that's why I hate men or yes I had every thing handed to me on a plate I just like to rebel.
It reminds me slightly of Nasty Nicks story in BB1 and no one voted for him.
Katia_Storm
31-05-2004
Article about kitten in hull daily mail.

http://www.thisishull.co.uk/displayN...entPK=10139373

If link doesnt work, link is at www.thisishull.co.uk
biomorph04
31-05-2004
its a romantic myth that rebels and politcal activists have to be working class. as anyone involved in civil disobedience knows, many activists are middle class. a middle class upbringing can give a person the confidence and articulacy to stand up against injustices and power structures.

it is also natural, once a person learns about anti-capitalism, to feel embarrassed by your family background.

criticising someone's background is a lazy and cheap tactic.
lurcio
31-05-2004
Maybe the 16yo prostitution revelation was never intended for the wider public consumption....Probably t'was only a fiction to wind-up Victor.

Has the story been repeated to any other HMs?
little bear
31-05-2004
Her stories dont tie in, she going with the sympathy vote and poeple are aware therefore checking her stories.
lurcio
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by biomorph04:
“its a romantic myth that rebels and politcal activists have to be working class. as anyone involved in civil disobedience knows, many activists are middle class. a middle class upbringing can give a person the confidence and articulacy to stand up against injustices and power structures.

it is also natural, once a person learns about anti-capitalism, to feel embarrassed by your family background.

criticising someone's background is a lazy and cheap tactic.”

I think an analysis of someones background is fair....It's helps put their personalities and veiwpoints into context.

I think those who really suffer are are disadvantaged have every right to question the motives of those who who seek to repesent them, in case they are appropriating and manipulating the grievences of others for their own ends
biomorph04
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by lurcio:
“I think an analysis of someones background is fair....It's helps put their personalities and veiwpoints into context.

I think those who really suffer are are disadvantaged have every right to question the motives of those who who seek to repesent them, in case they are appropriating and manipulating the grievences of others for their own ends”

we all need to constantly question our relationships with power and authority, no matter what our backgrounds or circumstances.

plus people who are suffering are often too bogged down in their suffering or too oppressed to stand up for themselves. they might also be suffering in captivity where their ability to evoke change is limited.

fighting injustice is about compassion, it is a fundamental human duty of everybody, it is not only about ones own immediate or past experiences.
lurcio
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by biomorph04:
“we all need to constantly question our relationships with power and authority, no matter what our backgrounds or circumstances.

plus people who are suffering are often too bogged down in their suffering or too oppressed to stand up for themselves. they might also be suffering in captivity where their ability to evoke change is limited.

fighting injustice is about compassion, it is a fundamental human duty of everybody, it is not only about ones own immediate or past experiences.”

I still maintain it is fair....nay...crucial to subject to scrutiny the motives of those who claim to represent the grievences of others.
Friendly Face
31-05-2004
Originally Posted by Emma Wroids:
“That probably has more to do with how insecure and nervous she really is, than her education.”

I think it's down to her making things up as she goes along.
bob.stone
01-06-2004
Kat's Dad Kenneth confirms the story's false. And whilst it's true she only said this to Victor in the house, perhaps to change his opinion of her, rather than to the whole group, she must also have said it to BB producers in the auditions process, because it was one of the things leaked to The Sun on May 20th when they sequestered a superset of potential housemates away into hiding (actual article on The Sun website has expired, but a quote from it was "Contestants on the shortlist include a former prostitute and a male stripper.").

Bob
kevraff
01-06-2004
Originally Posted by eminuu:
“Didn't Ahmed flee civil war and start in this country with nothing?”

Yes, that occurred to me.

Kitten's housemates include a refugee, two bi-sexual women, a transexual, two gay men and a black man. These are exactly the sort of people who she claims to be 'fighting' for and yet they don't seem to be taking her at all seriously.

Edit: I'm not trying to say that being bi-sexual is the same as having to flee civil war by the way. But overall, I'd say this crowd are a pretty tolerant bunch and I don't think they'll tolerate Kitten for much longer.
gladys
01-06-2004
a lot of protesting is done by middle class kids because working class kids are too busy working as they cannot fall back on parental financial support when needed.

after hearing about the star classification her girlfriend uses at home for monitoring kitten's good behaviour last night on BBLB that it includes some for not exaggerating past events.
Little Ali
01-06-2004
I said on a previous thread that I didn't think Kitten was lying about being homeless and used by a pimp and though this story in the papers does make me question that, I can't see why she'd lie about it.

However, as far as Victor was concerned, I do think she's using her problems to try and manipulate him into feeling sorry for her - why tell someone when you've only just met them? Seems funny to me, I certainly wouldn't tell a near-stranger about something so personal and upsetting.
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