I even heard Daniel chatting to Jason on the first night about what's expected of them.

Daniel said "If it's car crash TV they want, it'll be car crash TV they'll get".

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they might ALL have been briefed about what would be good viewing.

I know (not well) both 'Kitten' and Daniel. I live in Hull, where Kat (her real name) lived until very recently. Kat and Daniel know each other quite well - have been to parties at each other's houses, go to same clubs, lived in same neighbourhood. The word up here is that they were briefed not to let on they knew each other. They've had several awkward moments - Dan calling her Kat by mistake, his commenting on the Hull accent which made them both visibly panic, his stammering when he got to Kitten when asked how he got on with the other housemates.

Everyone in Hull knows this, but it hasn't been picked up on by the press.

Isn't that revelation important enough to deserve its own thread, and possibly a news story on the front page?

Perhaps it is. Feel free to start one...

I've just been waiting for it to blow - tonight they were talking about another mutual friend they have, a transexual in Hull called Ricky. The sound got cut very quickly. Incidentally, Ricky has been on the Salon as a customer, and on Without Prejudice on C4.

Sounds like they have been scouted for the show.

I should coco. Must admit I raised my eyebrows when I was reading their Friends Reutd profiles earlier - they both went to the same school, albeit 6 years apart. See this handy Usenet post

yeah I would say so - it's all too much - remember also that vic and kitten auditioned together. and why havent the other hms commented about this 'mutual friend'

right im off to bed - nighty night!

i have noticed like ever other person that kitten is brecking all the rules, why have they ie. yellowcarded her for all the law brecking she is doing,i dont think they should be allowedto do the next bit on friday
if woe ever big brother whanted her to do in the fake evection on friday i think they should kick her out on friday by the back door abd have another house take her place, then replace her with an stand by housemate.
plantin bedroom
is that me that plant which they all walk pastin the bedroom is theresomething behind their!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting coincidence.

In my first post speculating that Kitten had got hold of inside information about the BB5 format, I also speculated "Big Brother is inhibited from bringing her into check in case she spills the beans to the others."

We know that there is a secret room. The housemates are not meant to know that there is a secret room. There has not been a secret room before.

Today (1st June), Big Brother has finally got tough with Kitten, warning that she faces eviction for rule breaking, following two formal warnings. Kitten makes a very specific reference to the possibility of there being a secret room within the BB house.

the reason the BB producers are letting her get away with things is simply because they view what she's doing as entertainment for the viewers, and in the absense of anything else going on, they dont want to bring her into line too much.

In a sense the "reward room" last year could be categorized as a "secret" room, but once it had been revealed to them all, it ceased to be as such. In the present series however, the secret is set to be sustained over a far longer period, hence your observations are very significant indeed.

As a BB participant, Kitten is evidently a producer’s nightmare, she is arrogant, nervy, delusional and rebellious to the extent that it may well adversely affect viewing figures.

After reading another post in this thread pertaining to her long term friendship with Dan and coupling this rumour with Davina's hesitant commentary during the launch show, I'm beginning to grow extremely suspicious of the whole affair.

Geez, you guys are getting really paranoid about kitten and the "secret room" - have you had enough of aliens, jfk and Princess Di? Kitten is just trying to live up to her "image" - although the issue about her knowing Dan should raise a few eyebrows!

Hmm. You disagree with somebodies take on Kitten's behavior in a popular entertainment show designed for gossip, and you then diagnose paranoia and start thinking about aliens, jfk and Princess Di.

Paranoid: Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others - Physician, heal thyself.

and what would the note have said? "apparently Big Brother is going to *get evil* this year"?

then what? she's acting differently as a result? but i thought she was an activist type anyway? so she's basically acting to type?

i mean, what exactly is the theory?

Iain

people appear to forget that kittens girlfriend was on BBLB before the show on Friday. it is very possible that she gained more info from producers, workers etc thinking that she would not be able to contact kitten and passed on info that the viewers did not have access to on Friday

Wake up at the back there. You would not need a note to say "apparently Big Brother is going to *get evil* this year", you could say that in less than two seconds. A note would be more detailed, in this very thread I noted the existence of a secret room could have been part of the note.


If forced to use a word for my post (it is my post after all) I would go with hypothesis rather than theory.

For example, I thought that most traveling political activists acting to type would not have a problem with the shared bunk sleeping arrangements - you don't stay at the Ritz when protesting against globalization in Geneva. Yet Kitten was the only one to refuse at first to sleep in the dorm. To me her refusal seemed more understandable if she saw the shared dorm as a way in which BB was being 'evil' rather than just an interesting change from the previous years BB house.

Something that clouds the issue is we don't know how skilled a political activist Kitten is - has she even read 'The Prince'?

Does anybody know what subjects she studied in the 6th Form, at University? (drat the non-working search button)

She did her Dissiewotsit on a comparison of prstitues in the UK and Holland I think, and since has claimed to have been abused by saomeone who prostituted her. According to her father there would not have been an opportunity for this to happen. I think there were stories about this on line in the Mirror and the Mail.

Looks like already we have a candidate for "show me the footage!", along similar lines to last year's Cameron/poo-in-shoes incident or whatever it was. I've seen this twice and on both occasions I saw that Kitten did most of the talking. Lianda spoke at most a sentence or two. It was Kitten who whispered in Lianda's ear. And when Lianda did speak, she wore a convincing "you have a great time, I'll miss you" face, whilst she was supposedly saying "BB is evil" or something like that. It seems unlikely to me.

It also seems highly possible that Kitten was playing up way before the car arrived; maybe she demanded to see Lianda before entry, and was told by the crew that it wouldn't be happening. She spent the next however-long complaining, demanding, even threateneing to see her, knowing that she'd be somewhere in the crowd. Unless F&F were being held somewhere else. This scenario is highly plausible.

The secret room rumour was in the papers which we know Kitten has seen in Belgium.

hope you dont mind if I see how the official big bro forum take this. I'm sure they will love it...

Too bad your powers of observation do not extend to seeing that I have been posting about a note (writing on paper) being passed.

But hey, I admire your enthusiasm, watching the same bit of footage twice is more than I have managed to do, even with a TiVo.

Just give this forum a credit and post a link in this thread.

yea sure, once my registration allows me to post a new topic...

*there's going to be a secret room* this year has been rumoured before the start of every BB since BB2. how much was common knowledge about this secret room before last friday? i just don't see how even passing on the message *there's going to be a secret room* (or whatever else such a note may have contained) could be used to Kitten's (or anyone's) practical advantage.


i'm not with you. the sleeping arrangements this year are the sleeping arrangements this year. is your hypothesis simply that Kitten was passed a note saying BB would be evil and saw the sleeping arrangements as an example of this evilness, and acted differently towards it than if she hadn't had such a note?

again i'm inclined to wonder - to what possible advantageous end might this be?

Iain

I'm originally from Hull. I don't think there's a very big gay, artistic, etc. type of community so people like Dan and Kitten would quite likely know each other.