• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • TV
  • Doctor Who
Who is River Song?
<<
<
4 of 6
>>
>
nikolaikondom
27-06-2010
I think that since she is a time traveller she can simple remember the events. And you know, this is sci fi / fantasy, so sometimes we just have to accept some points
doctorellis
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by Paul SAFC:
“River did say that he would find out who she is very soon”

Spoiler
it has been said that the next time river meets the doctor will be the first time she has met him .
nikolaikondom
27-06-2010
For the reasons, I think we can agree with Terry Pratchett : this Deus ex Machina sci fi/fantasy, so some things are just like that. Remember what he noticed : if the water could move in the glasses during the flight of Earth back to its location by the tardis in series 4, there should have been tsunamis all around the world.
nebogipfel
27-06-2010
No, he's not.
harpanet
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by Paul SAFC:
“At the end of Big Bang the Doctor gave River the vortex manipulator back. So for her death to be before the stint in prison is not hard when she has access to time travel”

hmmm. I thought about that after I posted. So that would mean she uses the time device she obtains after escaping prison to go back to a point in time just before she is imprisoned, so she can escape and obtain the time device...

Makes sense, in a timey-wimey sort of way
MidnightFalcon
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by whip:
“But doesn't fit with the line "I learnt from the best" and when the doctor turns and smiles thinking she's talking about him adds "you were away that day"*, sounds more like someone that was educated with him say like the Master.



*Or words to that effect.”

If you count sources outside the TV continuity then you've just described
Spoiler
the Rani
.

The Deca
Goldeyfish
28-06-2010
i have thought a lot about River's caracter,
i think she's brillant and would love her to be a fulltime compaion..however i dont think it'll happen.

my thoughts on explaining her carcater..
the river song were seeing now is trying to redeem her self for the bad things shes done
the next time the viewer sees river will be her first encounter
she'll be revealed towards the end of the episode as the villan ..and have done aweful things
The doctor will then realise how crucial she is to his time-line
he'll tell her how she can make amends for all her badness,
and how the River song he knows goes on to become a great woman, whisper his real name, a gag about the term "SPOILERS" etc
the villan will be helping the doctor in a way seeking forgivness for whatever it is she has done.
her sacrifice in the Library to save the doctor was her first apparance, but will also draw a closure to the River song arc, and also show that if the doctor had read her diary he'd have known she was initally a bad person
it would then be possible to re-watch all her storys through her time-line

it sounds very timey wimey,

side note Alex Kingston is a total MILF, wish she was a bit more flirty with Matt, i like even the theory she's his wife...
Goldeyfish
28-06-2010
i have thought a lot about River's caracter,
i think she's brillant and would love her to be a fulltime compaion..however i dont think it'll happen.

my thoughts on explaining her carcater..
the river song were seeing now is trying to redeem her self for the bad things shes done
the next time the viewer sees river will be her first encounter
she'll be revealed towards the end of the episode as the villan ..and have done aweful things
The doctor will then realise how crucial she is to his time-line
he'll tell her how she can make amends for all her badness,
and how the River song he knows goes on to become a great woman, whisper his real name, a gag about the term "SPOILERS", where to leave the messages for him etc
the villan will be helping the doctor in a way seeking forgivness for whatever it is she has done.
her sacrifice in the Library to save the doctor was her first apparance, but will also draw a closure to the River song arc, and also show that if the doctor had read her diary he'd have known she was initally a bad person
it would then be possible to re-watch all her storys through her time-line

it sounds very timey wimey,

side note Alex Kingston is a total MILF, wish she was a bit more flirty with Matt, i even like the theory she's his wife..
corgi74
28-06-2010
I know it was a stupid RTD plot device but can't the Doctor smell another timelord like he did with the Master?
If that is cannon then she can't be the Rani but as it was a stupid idea she might be.

I personally would like her to be Captain Jack. I think they are very similar
mrellis33
28-06-2010
I think Matt Smith is signed up for 3 years and i think they have a 3 yr arc for his doctor. i think they have already planned for River Song to be the person who kills him (i think she was arrested for murdering the most brilliant man alive). It will probably be to save the world etc, rather than being the baddie.
Er00
28-06-2010
Originally Posted by DaRat:
“River is River.

I don't think she'll turn out to be any of the previously mentioned characters.

However, the presence of the VM and the clear use of "Thats when everything changes" pushes me strongly toward the Time Agent theory.

I foresee a cross over with Torchwood”

Aye, me and my fiancé were both like "everything changes? I'm getting a feeling of deja vu..." :P I hope there *is* a Torchwood link there rather than just being a coincidence.
Goldeyfish
28-06-2010
ok
can i make my prediction now....

she is the voice that says silence will fall

as i said a few posts up in my theroy on her i think she is trying to make amends for her past mistakes
and also the episode her first apperance in is called silence in the library

i basically think she'll be revealed as next years big bad
(an earlier version of her before ever meeting the doctor)....the later version of her will be involved in helping the doctor and amy etc to defeat herself....confusing timey wimey stuff
vampirek
28-06-2010
Originally Posted by mrellis33:
“I think Matt Smith is signed up for 3 years and i think they have a 3 yr arc for his doctor. i think they have already planned for River Song to be the person who kills him (i think she was arrested for murdering the most brilliant man alive). It will probably be to save the world etc, rather than being the baddie.”

I have it down, that River Song kills Captain Jack without having a clue he'll just revive. She is sent down and mets The Doctor in a prison in an unrelated story. The Doctor knowing who she is will take her with him, however he wont be allowed to unless she his wife. Therefore gets 'married' and becomes the companion until the point they separate. Where River Song starts meeting The Doctor out of sync.
rossyrahrah
28-06-2010
I bet you a fez and a mop that it's the Doctor she's been sent down for killing*


*except it'll be because he needed her to in order to save the universe and by the magic of timey wimey he won't really be dead after all
The Lens
29-06-2010
Is there any way she could be the First Doctor's wife? He presumably had one once, as he must have had at least one child, who would have been one of Susan's parents?

All the Hartnell references this year have got me wondering? The various visual reminders, the "Old Man who stole a box" etc?

Will all this eventually link back to a young, First Doctor?

I just have a sneaky feeling...
sonic157
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by The Lens:
“Is there any way she could be the First Doctor's wife? He presumably had one once, as he must have had at least one child, who would have been one of Susan's parents?

All the Hartnell references this year have got me wondering? The various visual references, the "Old Man who stole a box" etc?

Will all this eventually link back to a young, First Doctor?

I just have a sneaky feeling...”

The problem with this is that she appears to be from the 52nd century and wouldn't he recognise her if he'd met her in his first incarnation?.
Kapellmeister
29-06-2010
My mum thinks River might be the Master...

...

The Lens
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by sonic157:
“The problem with this is that she appears to be from the 52nd century and wouldn't he recognise her if he'd met her in his first incarnation?.”

Not necessarily if she's a Time Lady who has regenerated.

Also she doesn't have to have been born in that century if she's a time traveller and we don't know what century the Doctor was originally from either...
sonic157
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by The Lens:
“Not necessarily if she's a Time Lady who has regenerated.

Also she doesn't have to have been born in that century if she's a time traveller and we don't know what century the Doctor was originally from either...”

I'm coming round to the idea that River Song is a Time Lady. After all, she can fly the tardis. I think she is most likely a regeneration of the Rani who had her own tardis. Not my era of DW (sixth and seventh Doctors) but it would explain why the Doctor wouldn't help her if he knew who she was. Just as the Doctor's character changes in his different incarnations, River Song doesn't share all her earlier incarnation's characteristics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_(Doctor_Who)
justine01
29-06-2010
I really keep wondering why everyone comes back to the timelady stuff.

This wouldn't make sense (the Doctor would know if she's from Gallifrey); and the chamelion arch thingy has been done to death now.

Imo - as mentioned before - she's no more timelord than Jack. In fact, she is sooo similar to him that I really expect a typical 51st century background to her with similar ambiguities and "shady morals" as are with Jack and John.

An intriguing character yes, timelord - nfw!
Silva
29-06-2010
I think River song is, as unbelievable as this might be, River Song! In true Doctor Who fashion, there are bound to be some clues in relation to her storyline already aired, such as the title of her first appearance and her first season finale and and next seasons story arcs (Silence in the library, Silence will fall, And the big bad saying 'Silence will fall'). So we can make an intelligent guess and say she has something to do with silence.

Looking past her arc, I just can't see her being anyone other than River Song. The character we've been represented with is already very fascinating and damn right interesting. She doesn't have to be a time lord and or someone the doctor the already knows.
elena
29-06-2010
We know from FOTD that The Doctor meets River in at least one more encounter than the potential 'first' one that might be coming next series: she mentions before her death that he came to see her just before she travelled to the Library, gave her his screwdriver and took her to see the Singing Towers... I suspect this will probably be an off-screen meeting, however.

I don't subscribe to any theories about River being a character from the classic series.

It's clear from the hints we've been given that River has a very murky past (probably not just because of the man she killed), so I do expect her to be some sort of antagonist next time we see her. I would suggest she's done something very, very major and been very, very powerful because of the comments the Dalek made. What that is, remains to be seen.

Personally, I would love to see loads more River episodes (though I think they might be bringing her stories to a close soon - if not even in the next episode). I love her!
wizzywick
29-06-2010
I am now going to reveal my theory again:

River Song is an inter-galactic time agent. A coalition of organisations including The Shadow proclamation, UNIT and Torchwood have collective evidence that the Doctor is infact, inadvertently, making the universe a volatile place by his perceptions of what is right and what is wrong. They don't want him exterminated but need him to be "controlled".

River is the agent selected by the coalition to "control" him. A bit like his parole officer. All the meetings in the book are places where River summoned The doctor in order to keep him from causing too much trouble. The first time he meets her is in a space courtroom in the future where he is being accused of inadvertently affecting a planet's welfare by tampering with a timeline. In the court it is revealed that the Doctor will be free to go but will be under the charge of River Song. This is how River knows his name.

Eventually, due to an event that leads to the Doctor committing inadvertent genocide to the Daleks, he is sentenced to lifetime imprisonment in an inescapable prison that will be sent into the Vortex.

River, who has grown fond of the Doctor is responsible for his imprisonment. She knows the universe will be poorer without him so executes him to allow him to regenerate in order for his new identity to allow him to escape. However, she is imprisoned for murder and for concealing his body.
wolfuk
30-06-2010
Cool theory

Heres anotheer, could it be his doughter, as when she died in the episode she regenerated in final scene, we not know what happend after.
alphonsus
13-07-2010
OK, if River is a character from the classicc series - which I still have some doubts about - I reckon (and it's almost certainly been said elsewhere) that it's Romana. I reckon she's a Time Lady, or she couldn't have remembered what was going on at the end of the Big Bang (recognising Amy, planting the diary). the fact that 'everything will change' once he knows who she is (rebirth of species, etc.) and finally that she knows the Doctor's name. If he hadn't given it to her during their tenure in the Tardis together, who would he give it to?

On the other hand, maybe he neds to give his name to the Tardis he's going to be in symbiosis with, and that theory is the right one.
<<
<
4 of 6
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map