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Red herrings
col b
26-06-2010
I feel very stupid that ive spent the best part of three months trying to piece together all the clues in this series when in fact they were all red herrings.Ive posted some crazy ideas on this forum but Ive loved every minute of doing so.Here's what i mean in quick terms:

Fish
Ducks
Water/ponds
Stairs
Perception filters
attics
second TARDIS
Fake Leadworth
Rorys badge

etc... etc...

I do however feel that some of these are not yet done with though such as the duck pond and amys attic.Its possible that the baddie for the next series was being set up in these episodes.A timelord building a new TARDIS such as the master,omega and so on.

I still think the duck pond was significant though based on the fact that when the doctor collapsed next to it,he wasnt just falling.If you look at the way he reacts before he falls its as though he is being pulled backwards towards it like its and energy source.

Have we really all been lead on delibrately and is steven moffat laughing his socks off at the carefully constructed dead ends placed throughout the series.He must have read these forums and wet himself with the theories.
greenlegend
26-06-2010
He's probably read the forums and wished he'd come up with some of the ideas that have been on here!!
sonic157
26-06-2010
Originally Posted by col b:
“I feel very stupid that ive spent the best part of three months trying to piece together all the clues in this series when in fact they were all red herrings.Ive posted some crazy ideas on this forum but Ive loved every minute of doing so.Here's what i mean in quick terms:

Fish
Ducks
Water/ponds
Stairs
Perception filters
attics
second TARDIS
Fake Leadworth
Rorys badge”

Not all of these were red herrings. The ducks certainly weren't as they pointed to things falling out of time and people not knowing they had gone. The head banging moment for me was when i realised that I'd just accepted that Amy had no parents although I did wonder at Aunt Sharon leaving her alone at night. She had a great crack in her wall through which they had fallen. Aunt Sharon had just gone the same way. If the Doctor hadn't happened along little Amelia Pond would have disappeared too.
Ricky D Gervais
26-06-2010
People come up with out-there theories every year for this show, and they always end up being wrong. Fandom seems to forget that the show has to appeal to the casual watcher too, which is one good reason why these overly complex ideas have almost no chance of ever being right, they would leave four of the six million viewers scratching their heads and somewhat less likely to tune in again. I did start a thread about this very issue earlier but it was maliciously reported and predictably removed by DS's very own mindless autons, aka forum support.
greenlegend
26-06-2010
The ducks certainly weren't as they pointed to things falling out of time and people not knowing they had gone.

OMG get it now lol! Thanks that was bugging me!
rejazz
26-06-2010
that picture on little amelias bedroom wall of the house on fire, what was that all about????
Tassium
26-06-2010
And that weird picture in the James Corden episode. Was that just a weid picture after all?
Muttley76
26-06-2010
Originally Posted by Ricky D Gervais:
“People come up with out-there theories every year for this show, and they always end up being wrong.”

this year we got at least one theory right: the two doctors in the forset scene proved 100% correct.

well when I say we, I mean me and a few others.
Ricky D Gervais
26-06-2010
Difference being that wasn't illogical and actually had evidence supporting it to make it credible.
mdovey
26-06-2010
Given that the story arc was quite explicitly not resolved (we don't know who blew up the TARDIS, who said "silence will fall" etc.) it is possible that there are still clues and pointers which will only make sense in series 6.

As regards Rory's badge, it might be that Rory is still a plastic Auton that never ages (or at least was in TEH, if no longer so in TBB), so he might possibly have had that badge in 1990 and yet still look in his 20s in 2010.

Matthew
Muttley76
26-06-2010
Originally Posted by Ricky D Gervais:
“Difference being that wasn't illogical and actually had evidence supporting it to make it credible.”

true, it did, but that didn't stop many people insisting it was a continuity error till the bitter end.....
talentedmonkey
26-06-2010
I now consider Rivers comments to be a Red Herring. She makes comments about the doctors face when the Pandorica was opened, yet River was no where near the Pandorica for the Doctors incarceration or the opening., as I was going on lines that River was going to open up the Pandorica and rescue doctor based on that.


Unless river is Amy....... then its not a red herring
aardvark85
26-06-2010
I'm waiting for a plot from Moffatt featiuring brightly coloured fish.
x-LizB-x
26-06-2010
I allowed myself to feel quite smug as I guessed the fact her family had been swallowed by the crack back when the doctor mentioned how empty her house was. Did not expect Rory to be back as a real person in the end though. I was sure he was either going to be dead for good or plastic. Pleasantly suprised at the final result.
MrChicken
26-06-2010
I think the ducks are in the top floor of Amy's house and are hidden by a perception filter where they have formed a partnership with the Nestene Consciousness and are making very real looking rubber ducks.
platelet
26-06-2010
Originally Posted by talentedmonkey:
“I now consider Rivers comments to be a Red Herring. She makes comments about the doctors face when the Pandorica was opened, yet River was no where near the Pandorica for the Doctors incarceration or the opening., as I was going on lines that River was going to open up the Pandorica and rescue doctor based on that.”

Yeah but couldn't the whole period of this meeting between them be described as the moment when the Pandorica opened?

Originally Posted by talentedmonkey:
“Unless river is Amy....... then its not a red herring”

Nah, Amy would never kill the doctor she's known him since childhood. River on the other hand could easily do so on their first meeting
kw4121
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by talentedmonkey:
“I now consider Rivers comments to be a Red Herring. She makes comments about the doctors face when the Pandorica was opened, yet River was no where near the Pandorica for the Doctors incarceration or the opening., as I was going on lines that River was going to open up the Pandorica and rescue doctor based on that.


Unless river is Amy....... then its not a red herring”

When the blue book was given to amy i shouted OMG amy is river! but that could be red herring! be a nice and intresting twist to it all though!

ken
ListedBuzz
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by kw4121:
“When the blue book was given to amy i shouted OMG amy is river! but that could be red herring! be a nice and intresting twist to it all though!

ken”

Only she gave it to the doctor, who in turn gave it back to River... It's was more to remind her of the blue box (T.A.R.D.I.S)
Pixickles
27-06-2010
The apple and the eyes come to mind. (Saying that, when they were outside looking at the TARDIS when it was in the time loop, the whole thing looked like a giant eye, in the sky.)
TemporalParadox
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by col b:
“I feel very stupid that ive spent the best part of three months trying to piece together all the clues in this series when in fact they were all red herrings.Ive posted some crazy ideas on this forum but Ive loved every minute of doing so.Here's what i mean in quick terms:

Fish
Ducks
Water/ponds
Stairs
Perception filters
attics
second TARDIS
Fake Leadworth
Rorys badge

etc... etc...

I do however feel that some of these are not yet done with though such as the duck pond and amys attic.Its possible that the baddie for the next series was being set up in these episodes.A timelord building a new TARDIS such as the master,omega and so on.

I still think the duck pond was significant though based on the fact that when the doctor collapsed next to it,he wasnt just falling.If you look at the way he reacts before he falls its as though he is being pulled backwards towards it like its and energy source.

Have we really all been lead on delibrately and is steven moffat laughing his socks off at the carefully constructed dead ends placed throughout the series.He must have read these forums and wet himself with the theories.”

Was the duck pond with no ducks not explained in Flesh and Stone, when the Doctor realises time can be unwritten? He gives examples of the Events of Journey's End, The Next Doctor, and the duck pond. In the Big Bang, he also says that the crack had been eating away at Amy's life for years, and had erased many things, such as her parents.
sonic157
27-06-2010
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“this year we got at least one theory right: the two doctors in the forset scene proved 100% correct.

well when I say we, I mean me and a few others.”

On first viewing, I only noticed that he came from the wrong direction but that alerted me to something not being quite right. I was also right that he would go back to meet Amelia.

The Lodger was a massive red herring to many who had theories about the Doctor re-building the tardis on the top floor of Amy's house.
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