[old bill2]

If your torn between the IPhone or the Galaxy S this item about the screens is very interesting .
http://blog.gsmarena.com/super-amole...-head-to-head/

[Soundburst]

Hmm.

The screen is one thing.

The iPhones screen is beautiful - but even if it was worse than it is - it's what's ON the screen wot counts.

I doubt people are thinking:

"galaxy vs iPhone - which one has an amoled screen vs retina decisions decisions!!!!!"

[Dan30]

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Hmm.

The screen is one thing.

The iPhones screen is beautiful - but even if it was worse than it is - it's what's ON the screen wot counts.

I doubt people are thinking:

"galaxy vs iPhone - which one has an amoled screen vs retina decisions decisions!!!!!"

Lets face it you would buy whatever Apple iproduct comes out!! You are the ultimate Apple fanboy.

If you compare these 2 phones then theres not alot between them, so it will come down to Android or Apples OS.

[Gormond]

For me its the Retina Display because the brightness helps you read it in daylight and its twice as bright as the Super AMOLED.

[zantarous]

Yep tried mine in the sunlight yesterday and was pleasantly surprised that I could use the iPhone 4 outdoors.

[TheBigM]

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Originally Posted by zantarous

Yep tried mine in the sunlight yesterday and was pleasantly surprised that I could use the iPhone 4 outdoors.

I guess you weren't holding it like a normal phone since this seems to trash the i4's reception.

[zantarous]

I am not a lefty, plus I have a bumper on it.

Also I am waiting for Vodafone to port my number for I have no cell connection yet so could yet change my mind on how good this phone is.

[Gormond]

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Originally Posted by TheBigM

I guess you weren't holding it like a normal phone since this seems to trash the i4's reception.

Used the phone quite a bit and yet to have a dropped call.

The issue has been overhyped by the press.

[Soundburst]

I have an iPhone 3GS and I can see my screen in direct sunlight - saying that, here in Ni we get direct sunlight for 3 days a year.

Also remember , if to buy the galaxy then you have to run an OS that's isn't the IPhone OS - and that would be a disaster.

[rickead2000]

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Also remember , if to buy the galaxy then you have to run an OS that's isn't the IPhone OS - and that would be a disaster.

Have you seen the disaster that Apple call multitasking in iOS4?!

[Gormond]

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Originally Posted by rickead2000

Have you seen the disaster that Apple call multitasking in iOS4?!

Multi-tasking in iOS4 works great, gives you all the benefit of multi-tasking without effecting battery life.

[Soundburst]

Mutitasking on apples latest critically acclaimed OS is fabulous.

Apps don't support it yet - but when they do it'll be amazing.

Actual multitasking + ingenious Apple design that saves battery = Win win. Multitasking with out the standard draw backs of multitasking on a portable device. (Apple don't just shoehorn features into their phones just to say "oh look this has multitasking (ignore the fact the battery is rubbish") - they look at features and then completely redesign them in the best interest of the user (user friendly) and battery.

[pi r squared]

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Also remember , if to buy the galaxy then you have to run an OS that's isn't the IPhone OS - and that would be a disaster.

Oh come on. People can just about accept your rabid Apple fandom and repeated posts that sound like they've come straight from an Apple press release. But to brand the Android OS as "disasterous" is just stupid. It mightn't be perfectly polished but it's FAR from a disaster.

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Originally Posted by Gormond

Multi-tasking in iOS4 works great, gives you all the benefit of multi-tasking without effecting [sic] battery life.

Again, sounds straight from an Apple press release, only not even Apple make the audacious claim that multitasking doesn't affect battery life at all. They use the word "preserve", which is different, and there are as many sources bemoaning the implementation of multitasking in iOS4 as there are sources praising it. And let's not pretend you get "all" the benefits of multitasking - they've provided a working solution but still a reasonably crippled one.

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Actual multitasking + ingenious Apple design that saves battery = Win win.

Pseudo multitasking + interesting Apple design that there haven't been enough 'real-world' tests on to determine whether it does actually preserve battery any better than Android or any other multitasking mobile OS does = draw draw.

[Gormond]

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Originally Posted by pi r squared

Again, sounds straight from an Apple press release, only not even Apple make the audacious claim that multitasking doesn't affect battery life at all. They use the word "preserve", which is different, and there are as many sources bemoaning the implementation of multitasking in iOS4 as there are sources praising it. And let's not pretend you get "all" the benefits of multitasking - they've provided a working solution but still a reasonably crippled one.
Pseudo multitasking + interesting Apple design that there haven't been enough 'real-world' tests on to determine whether it does actually preserve battery any better than Android or any other multitasking mobile OS does = draw draw.

I have tried multi-tasking on android phones and it kills battery which is why you need a task manager, in fact friends have complained about the way it works as well as techies such as Leo Laporte.

I have tried Multi-tasking quite a lot on the iPhone4 and saving the state of apps when you close them doesn't seem to effect the battery at all. Playing music or having a GPS running in the background of coarse effects battery but only minimally.

Also you say its "crippled", what exactly can't it to?

[Shot_gunN]

Got my Galaxy S on friday, very nice phone and the screen is impressive compaired to say the HTC Desire my friend has.

Moved away from the iPhone as now other phones do the same job as originally bought an iPod Touch and was carrying phone at same time so Iphone was natural progression, the moved upto the 3GS last august.

What put me off was within the year it was like, Hey heres a new iPhone, yeah and it`ll still cost you £250 to upgrade
No thanks.......

Admittedly, got a Dell Streak first, and as much as I like it for work as its a great txt/internet device, I look a tool using it as a phone.

[Shot_gunN]

Also, as I found yesterday.
The Galaxy S I have direct from vodafone is unlocked....

[call100]

Having looked at the i4 and Galaxy S together in the real world (That video showed nothing really there is not much between the screens). I am still going for the Galaxy S over the iPhone. I've had the iPhone for a while now and Android seems to be catching up fast. 2.2 is in the pipeline in the next couple of months.
I can always go back if I'm wrong. I found the iPhone did all I asked of it but I can't do what others do and drone on about it without trying something else in real time (not just a fiddle in the shop)..........To the future..

[Shot_gunN]

I think the bonus with the Android OS is that its universal across the whole platform and the handsets add their own little touches while improving the overall experiance.
The iPhone is the OS Apple sends out, and thats it. Hacking gives you that extra freedom to add stuff and customise, but why should you have to hack your £200 + contract handset when you get the same thing, without hacking, on your free contract phone?

[ohirome]

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Originally Posted by pi r squared

Oh come on. People can just about accept your rabid Apple fandom and repeated posts that sound like they've come straight from an Apple press release. But to brand the Android OS as "disasterous" is just stupid. It mightn't be perfectly polished but it's FAR from a disaster.

Again, sounds straight from an Apple press release, only not even Apple make the audacious claim that multitasking doesn't affect battery life at all. They use the word "preserve", which is different, and there are as many sources bemoaning the implementation of multitasking in iOS4 as there are sources praising it. And let's not pretend you get "all" the benefits of multitasking - they've provided a working solution but still a reasonably crippled one.
Pseudo multitasking + interesting Apple design that there haven't been enough 'real-world' tests on to determine whether it does actually preserve battery any better than Android or any other multitasking mobile OS does = draw draw.

Im a new iPhone user and it works great. Theres no fanboyness here, just someone with an honest opinion about a great product. The 'multitasking' on my android was awful and phone slowed to a halt when running more than 1 app. Apple have once again managed to get it right.

[ohirome]

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Originally Posted by Shot_gunN

I think the bonus with the Android OS is that its universal across the whole platform and the handsets add their own little touches while improving the overall experiance.
The iPhone is the OS Apple sends out, and thats it. Hacking gives you that extra freedom to add stuff and customise, but why should you have to hack your £200 + contract handset when you get the same thing, without hacking, on your free contract phone?

You still have to 'hack' an Android in order to root it, so its not all that different.

[jim_uk]

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Originally Posted by ohirome

You still have to 'hack' an Android in order to root it, so its not all that different.

The difference is Android gives you a lot more freedom without having to root it, without hacking Apple give you no freedom at all.

[clonmult]

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Originally Posted by ohirome

Im a new iPhone user and it works great. Theres no fanboyness here, just someone with an honest opinion about a great product. The 'multitasking' on my android was awful and phone slowed to a halt when running more than 1 app. Apple have once again managed to get it right.

They've "got it right" by re-defining what counts as multi tasking though.

Thats because iOS doesn't do "full" multi tasking, it just has a set of APIs that allow some processing to continue in the background while the application is in a frozen state - location, audio, etc.

To correctly leverage multi tasking these APIs must be used - therefore applications must be re-written.

Not quite like Symbian where its been there all along, any app can multi task, etc .....

[ohirome]

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Originally Posted by clonmult

They've "got it right" by re-defining what counts as multi tasking though.

Thats because iOS doesn't do "full" multi tasking, it just has a set of APIs that allow some processing to continue in the background while the application is in a frozen state - location, audio, etc.

To correctly leverage multi tasking these APIs must be used - therefore applications must be re-written.

Not quite like Symbian where its been there all along, any app can multi task, etc .....

My only experience of multitasking on a phone has been using android and it was a terrible experience. Saying that, I dont *need* all my programs to run in the background. Each to their own!

[ohirome]

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Originally Posted by jim_uk

The difference is Android gives you a lot more freedom without having to root it, without hacking Apple give you no freedom at all.

And having rooted my android, I didnt really use it for anything other than installing new roms which gets pointless after the 2nd or 3rd flash. I switched to the iPhone because of its simplicity. Android and Winmo will always be popular for people who really enjoy tinkering with the finer settings.

[pi r squared]

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Originally Posted by ohirome

The 'multitasking' on my android was awful and phone slowed to a halt when running more than 1 app. Apple have once again managed to get it right.

Hmmm. Is this the same Android phone you admit to rooting only a few posts later? If you're running a custom ROM you can't really bleat about the speed of the phone, but even so if running 2 apps slowed down the phone then either you had a very early Android phone, it was broken, or the custom ROM wasn't tuned properly. My HTC Magic coped with multitasking just fine, even with CPU-intense tasks like Navigation I could still swap in and out of texts, phone calls and email. As for Apple "once again" getting it right, that's an odd thing for a "new" Apple user to say.