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Old 30-06-2010, 16:07
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Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time there'd be four hours of Midsomer Murders, as there's also two episodes on tomorrow. At least it's not Taggart again, although that does remind me of when they used to re-edit three-part stories of Taggart into one show and bill them as Taggart The Movie.

My favourite demented alternative schedule was in Euro 2000 when on Sunday night BBC1 were down to show A Tribute to the Two Ronnies, which would have run 7.30-10pm, and would have included all of Two Ronnies Night again, as well as another clip show which Ronnie C had presented a few months later. Two and a half hours!

Didn't show it, though, and eventually they repeated most of Two Ronnies Night - albeit cut down to ninety minutes - at half ten one night. Then they got Mark and Lard to do some new links and repeated it again as I Love The Two Ronnies on Saturday night BBC2. They got their money's worth out of that show.

You always used to get Backdraft and the Jolly Boys' Outing episode of Only Fools and Horses in alternative schedules on BBC1, they always used to show up.
They get their money's worth out of The Two Ronnies in lots of ways. They did three compilation series 20/21/22 Years of The Two Ronnies between 1986 and 1988, they repeated them, then they did some more compilations without links one year (1996 or 1997?), then there was the Sketchbook series in 2005.

Did any of the Only Fools specials ever get cut down to fit repeat slots? I've a feeling To Hull and Back seemed shorter when it was repeated in the 2000s. I know A Royal Flush was cut, but that was for different reasons.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:10
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So Dragon's Den returns to BBC TWO on Wednesday 14th July at 9pm.

Undercover Boss is on C4 on Thursday 15th July @ 9pm.

And I see in tonight's Evening Standard that ITVs event A:3K has now been delayed (due to England's dismal performance) until June 2011 - it was due to take place on July 17th at the 02.
Thanks dubsj. Dragons Den will do well as usual in that slot, but I think a Tuesday slot would have been better for Undercover Boss as often C4 tends to get lost in the shuffle on Thursdays. Unsurprising news about A:3K really after England's shocking performance.

Any idea of what BBC1 are airing in any of the 9pm slots, or ITV on Wednesday dubsj?
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:13
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Channel 4 should have put a bid in for Five and switched a lot of the channel content over, e.g. dramas and imports off to Channel 4 with cheap documentaries off to Five. The ratings would most likely then be the right way round- Five deserves C4 ratings, with C4 deserving Five's. Five could basically become a FTA E4/More4 hybrid and manage to sustain about 1m viewers on average.

Also quite surprised ITV or Channel 4 didn't bid for it, they could have stripped it of its good programming, kept the Freeview slots if needed and then sold it again.

I hope Endemol aren't successful in buying Five and put Big Brother on it, that show has been flogged to death as it is and bringing it back is just public humiliation for all involved. Even Davina has said she doesn't want to do it if it goes to another channel.
Channel 4 and Five would have been the logical pairing as they are Britain's second and third biggest commercial channels and maybe moving Hollyoaks to Five would see an end to the flop Live from Studio Five and give Five an audience of over a million in this slot and would pair it off nicely with the youthful soap Home and Away.
However, should Endemol take over, they might be tempted to turn Five into a Big Brother dominated hell in the summer and annoy the station's crime drama and action film fans, who'll have nowhere to go. Also BB would get even less viewers on Five, although Endemol could possibly kill it mid run, an option Channel 4 would find expensive as they would have to compensate Endemol.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:15
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I expect EastEnders to be bad tonight as well and even though it's a big epiosde is doesn't seem to have been promted and the Gap between Fri and tonight won't help and seeing a weds at 8:00pm is not it's normal slot i think Unders 7m(or just 7m)

Corrie will do better as it's on after Emmerdale
I expect EE to do a lot better than Corrie tbh. Corrie's advertising has been even worse with the only mention on various internet sites. The ITV announced even advertised the next episode as Thursday!

Also EE is a big episode, as you say and the recent Wednesday episodes seem to have done well. Weak competition aswell with repeats and average rating shows.

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In other scheduling news I see CSI:Miami finally returns on Tues 13th July as expected. Repeat series finishes next week and WC out of the way. The few shows FIVE have earmarked for Summer are being spread out it seems. As a new factual series finishes on Monday and is replaced with film repeats a new drama replaces drama repeats on Tuesdays.

EDIT: Also just seen the scheduling for Waterloo Road appears to have changed again-final episode now goes up against Emmerdale & Corrie on Thurs July 15th. Well done BSI. You are successfully destroying a show which has just had almost a years worth of episodes commissioned.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:27
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I expect EE to do a lot better than Corrie tbh. Corrie's advertising has been even worse with the only mention on various internet sites. The ITV announced even advertised the next episode as Thursday!

Also EE is a big episode, as you say and the recent Wednesday episodes seem to have done well. Weak competition aswell with repeats and average rating shows.

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In other scheduling news I see CSI:Miami finally returns on Tues 13th July as expected. Repeat series finishes next week and WC out of the way. The few shows FIVE have earmarked for Summer are being spread out it seems. As a new factual series finishes on Monday and is replaced with film repeats a new drama replaces drama repeats on Tuesdays.

EDIT: Also just seen the scheduling for Waterloo Road appears to have changed again-final episode now goes up against Emmerdale & Corrie on Thurs July 15th. Well done BSI. You are successfully destroying a show which has just had almost a years worth of episodes commissioned.
Yeah but with no Football on people will head over to ITV at 7:00pm to see if Emmerdales on and stick with corrie afterwards
But who knows

Why is waterloo road airing on a Thursday but surely right after EastEnders it could do well against Emmerdale and corrie?
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:36
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So Dragon's Den returns to BBC TWO on Wednesday 14th July at 9pm.

Undercover Boss is on C4 on Thursday 15th July @ 9pm.
Will be interesting how Undercover Boss given its success in America, I expect similar ratings to The Secret Millionaire.

Wonder if The BBC will be showing Toy Story 1 and 2 in the run up to Toy Story 3, I reckon it would get huge ratings similar to what Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade got two years ago.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:40
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Another stripped drama coming up: The Silence on BBC1, between Monday 12th and Thursday 15th July.

101 Ways To Leave A Gameshow starts on Saturday 10th July at 18:30.

The BARB list might miss the match out altogether, like they did with EastEnders one year.
Lol . Or maybe there won't be a BARB list at all - 2009's is still missing!
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:49
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Oh dear, it seems like Identity already has parallels to Married Single Other thanks to BBC's scheduling, and that's not a positive thing either...

Episode 1 - MSO vs New Tricks (R)
Episode 2 - MSO vs Five Days (new - stripped drama)

Episode 1 - Identity vs Crimewatch (new - but should get 3.5m, same as a NT repeat)
Episode 2 - Identity vs The Silence (new - stripped drama)

And Identity's ratings as thus are heading south straight from launch. Another ITV show killed before its even started...

...or am I being over dramatic? The parallels are there, let's hope Identity captivates the viewers immediately.

Also, is Reunited a one off tonight? I've heard its new, but have seen zero trailers for it... has it been left on the shelf for the Beeb for a while? Or has it been mispromoted for whatever reason?

EDIT: According to Wikipedia - its a pilot... interesting.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:49
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Its not "getting lower ratings". Its just about a league table.
I didn't word that very well. I should have written "lower ratings figures", (by virtue of ITV not splitting their timesheets).

I'm just sick of the whinges about perceived unfairness in ITV's World Cup ratings. ITV chose to have their ratings listed that way, so they obviously don't care, so why are people getting their knickers in a knot on ITV's behalf?!
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:52
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A very big Tennis upset today in Fed's early exit. Nadal could be heading the same way.

Suddenly Wimbledon looks wide open - could be another bumper weekend of BBC Sport on the cards if Murray can keep his good run going.

Having said that Tsonga is looking strong and the last thing the BBC wants is for Murray, Nadal and Federer all to crash out today.
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Old 30-06-2010, 16:55
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Lol . Or maybe there won't be a BARB list at all - 2009's is still missing!


The parallels are there, let's hope Identity captivates the viewers immediately.
I suppose it depends whether the first episode is any good or not. How long has Identity been in the can? I'm sure I first heard about it a year ago.

ITV have a recent history of slipping out a weak six-parter some summers. I suppose Harley Street is a recent example.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:01
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Also, is Reunited a one off tonight? I've heard its new, but have seen zero trailers for it... has it been left on the shelf for the Beeb for a while? Or has it been mispromoted for whatever reason?

EDIT: According to Wikipedia - its a pilot... interesting.
They have been showing a trail, but it is not the kind of trail to make anyone sit up and nake notice. It's quite an ordinary little promo.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:01
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Oh dear, it seems like Identity already has parallels to Married Single Other thanks to BBC's scheduling, and that's not a positive thing either...

And Identity's ratings as thus are heading south straight from launch. Another ITV show killed before its even started...

...or am I being over dramatic? The parallels are there, let's hope Identity captivates the viewers immediately.
Why do you hope that? Identity has fairly average competition for the first episode. If people sample it en masse and like it, they will come back, regardless of what the BBC is doing the following week.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:02
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I suppose it depends whether the first episode is any good or not. How long has Identity been in the can? I'm sure I first heard about it a year ago.

ITV have a recent history of slipping out a weak six-parter some summers. I suppose Harley Street is a recent example.
I don't think Identity has been on the shelf for too long, and it does sound better than the last few ITV Summer dramas, as like you say they have a habit of burning off poor drama series in the Summer. Last year's Monday Monday was originally supposed to air in late 2007!
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:03
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Why do you hope that? Identity has fairly average competition for the first episode. If people sample it en mass and like it, they will come back, regardless of what the BBC is doing the following week.
Because if people don't like it, they won't come back - regardless of the quality of the other episodes, similar to what happened with MSO.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:04
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I'm just sick of the whinges about perceived unfairness in ITV's World Cup ratings. ITV chose to have their ratings listed that way, so they obviously don't care, so why are people getting their knickers in a knot on ITV's behalf?!
Obviously it's ITV's fault for not splitting their timesheet into pre-match, match, post-match.

But I would have thought on this thread particularly, people would've wanted to see a proper Top 10 which correctly identifies what's the most watched programme this year. Don't you think it'd be a bit weird saying England vs. Germany is the most watched show of the year, when it was not in any of these 3 categories: by 1. coverage average, 2. peak, 3. match average. To me, that would be ridiculous.

We've always took the common sense approach in the past: never put 2 X Factors, 2 Britain's Got Talent, 2 Dancing on Ice's into the lists, even though BARB does it. I don't see why we should now stop using the common sense approach? And of course, this is nothing to do with not wanting a BBC1 show top because in the other list, EastEnders would be top.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:05
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Why do TV channels release penultimate drafts of their schedules, and fill them with obvious red-herrings, like the 15-minute Live at the Apollo repeat on Sat July 10th's BBC One schedule?

What are the chances of that turning into a new 45-minute Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow?
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:10
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Obviously it's ITV's fault for not splitting their timesheet into pre-match, match, post-match.

But I would have thought on this thread particularly, people would've wanted to see a proper Top 10 which correctly identifies what's the most watched programme this year. Don't you think it'd be a bit weird saying England vs. Germany is the most watched show of the year, when it was not in any of these 3 categories: by 1. coverage average, 2. peak, 3. match average. To me, that would be ridiculous.

We've always took the common sense approach in the past: never put 2 X Factors, 2 Britain's Got Talent, 2 Dancing on Ice's into the lists, even though BARB does it. I don't see why we should now stop using the common sense approach? And of course, this is nothing to do with not wanting a BBC1 show top because in the other list, EastEnders would be top.
Then there's the other debate of should we just have one World Cup match in the chart, or one each from BBC and ITV, or all the World Cup games because thay all feature different pairs of teams? I'm glad I'm not making the list.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:10
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Oh dear, it seems like Identity already has parallels to Married Single Other thanks to BBC's scheduling, and that's not a positive thing either...

Episode 1 - MSO vs New Tricks (R)
Episode 2 - MSO vs Five Days (new - stripped drama)

Episode 1 - Identity vs Crimewatch (new - but should get 3.5m, same as a NT repeat)
Episode 2 - Identity vs The Silence (new - stripped drama)

And Identity's ratings as thus are heading south straight from launch. Another ITV show killed before its even started...

...or am I being over dramatic? The parallels are there, let's hope Identity captivates the viewers immediately.


I suppose it depends whether the first episode is any good or not. How long has Identity been in the can? I'm sure I first heard about it a year ago.

ITV have a recent history of slipping out a weak six-parter some summers. I suppose Harley Street is a recent example.
ITV seem to be giving mixed signals. They have promoted it pretty well and the Monday @ 9pm slot is the best they have. However, if it was any good why would they show it in the summer after having it on the shelf for year?

As seen by MSO, viewers will give it a chance especially if its got a Corrie lead-in but it has to keep viewers with a strong first ep.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:11
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A very big Tennis upset today in Fed's early exit. Nadal could be heading the same way.

Suddenly Wimbledon looks wide open - could be another bumper weekend of BBC Sport on the cards if Murray can keep his good run going.

Having said that Tsonga is looking strong and the last thing the BBC wants is for Murray, Nadal and Federer all to crash out today.
Nadal is probably likely to reach the final although I hope Murray does well, I think the World Cup has sort of taken pressure off him media wise.

Is the Ladies tennis looking like another Williams Sisters final?
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:13
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Nadal is probably likely to reach the final although I hope Murray does well, I think the World Cup has sort of taken pressure off him media wise.

Is the Ladies tennis looking like another Williams Sisters final?
I think one williams has gone out.

Not sure, though.
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:13
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ITV seem to be giving mixed signals. They have promoted it pretty well and the Monday @ 9pm slot is the best they have. However, if it was any good why would they show it in the summer after having it on the shelf for year?
Yeah, half of me wonders why they're promoting the hell out of it if it's crap, and half of me wonders why they're showing it in the Summer if it's good. Are there any reviews out yet to give more of an indication of if it's any good?
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:15
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I think one williams has gone out.

Not sure, though.
Yeah Venus got knocked out yesterday
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:16
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I don't think Identity has been on the shelf for too long, and it does sound better than the last few ITV Summer dramas, as like you say they have a habit of burning off poor drama series in the Summer. Last year's Monday monday was originally supposed to air in late 2007!
I forgot about Monday Monday.

I wonder what the ratings target will be for Identity? I guess it will have to beat the Friday Doc Martin repeats, as a minimum, if it's to get a second series?
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Old 30-06-2010, 17:19
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Yeah Venus got knocked out yesterday
Ah. I saw the lunchtime programme on BBC One today, and I thought I heard mention of one of them being knocked out.
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