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The Ratings Thread (Part 10)
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jake lyle
01-08-2010
Originally Posted by Andy23:
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I can see 101 ways getting recommissioned by default like a lot of dross seems to do on the BBC (see Life of Riley)”

Are you seriously saying 'Take me out' on ITV [which has been recommissioned] wasn't dross
Sun!
01-08-2010
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“ Are you seriously saying 'Take me out' on ITV [which has been recommissioned] wasn't dross”

Didnt Take me out have quite good ratings for ITV? and I cant imagine it was very expensive to make.

Dont Stop Beliveing tonight on five was probabaly the best of the series, but I think the ratings will be poorer given starting at 8 it has got stronger competition than before. Itll proabably be sub 1 million.
Georged123
01-08-2010
Just realised how well the Athletics have been doing on BBC2. 3.2m for nearly 4 hours is very impressive. Seems to bode well for the 2012 games that could see some huge audiences for the big events.
newkid30
01-08-2010
Bad night for BBC1 terrible night for ITV!!
Is Saturday the new Tuesday night flopzone?
Delighted Athletcis did well, it's been fantastic viewing, and a welcome relief to Sat night TV.
D.M.N.
01-08-2010
Very good for Athletics, surely had 4m+ peak.

Also, do ITV1's ratings include HD? Not that it really matters - under 3m is still appalling.
Glenn A
01-08-2010
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“It just shows that the majority don't like junk TV.

ITV1's 13.5%. for a sat night even in summer is very poor. Even if ITV1 get better programmes it's hard to bring myself to tune in, I feel like I'm sluming it.”

I can remember when ITV used to crush BBC One in the ratings in summer with their mixture of films, mini series and game shows. BBC One would typically be showing test match cricket, repeats of a Christmas programme and a sitcom too bad to show at any other time. After all, who really wants to watch an ailing reality show with Australian contestants( Ladette to Lady), tripe about Katie Price and crummy old You've Been Framed?
Charnham
01-08-2010
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“Bad night for BBC1 terrible night for ITV!!
Is Saturday the new Tuesday night flopzone?
Delighted Athletcis did well, it's been fantastic viewing, and a welcome relief to Sat night TV.”

unlikely, I would need to sit one of ITVs big hits, flop before I was willing to declare that.
Fudd
01-08-2010
PJ - I hope you come back. Yesterday and earlier today got very bitter and harsh on here for whatever reason, and the thread always seems to go through periods where the slanging matches gets to someone and they walk. As always, I hope the walker returns.

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wonder why Talking Telephone Numbers was a hit in the 90s but Magic Numbers in the 10s is a flop?
Has TV moved on and people aren't interested in this type of stuff anymore?
Or were people not interested even back then but they ddn't have any alternatives?

There's a lot of bright and colourful gameshows in the 90s/early 00s that I can see people not entertaining thesedays. Remember that Shane Ritchie fronted Bingo show? Didn't that last a few series? Yet it was cheap and nasty even then.

I can see 101 ways getting recommissioned by default like a lot of dross seems to do on the BBC (see Life of Riley)”

The Past does not hold the Golden Period of Television- that's just the impression given because of the good figures. But really the gameshows now produced are little worse than what has gone before, but they managed to claim a cult following due to a lack of choice, hence the popularity.

Originally Posted by newkid30:
“Bad night for BBC1 terrible night for ITV!!
Is Saturday the new Tuesday night flopzone?
Delighted Athletcis did well, it's been fantastic viewing, and a welcome relief to Sat night TV.”

ITV having two flopzones. At least the end of Saturday night woes are in sight with The X Factor starting at the end of the month. Other than moving the soaps, I cannot see what they can do on Tuesday's.

Casaulty did well last night to be number one show but that is a very low figure. I guess Odd One In and Magic Number are holding their figures, but that is little comfort. Big Brother did well with 2m+ on a Saturday night.
Brekkie
01-08-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Dancc - do you know when the Australian X Factor is starting on Seven? I saw some promos for it on YT today and they're awesome and it seems like they're really promoting it. I know it flopped on Ten five years ago but it looks like it'll be very similar to the current British version so I think it'll rate well.

Videos here btw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWloqfTlzZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWj1nb0riaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_AhureN_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPQZr6h5_I”

Not so sure about the first one but some great promos there. I imagine it'll be timed to end as their rating season ends so probably will air pretty much the same time as ours.

I think it'll do OK now Idol is out of the picture, and Seven has a good track record on these sorts of shows. TXF is also really a completely different show to what it was five years ago - indeed it's moved on much more in that time than the Idol format has in almost twice as long.

Originally Posted by jonnyblack:
“Just out of interest - do we know if itv2 will be showing X Factor Australia. Seven seem to be investing a lot in the format and would fit nicely on itv2 I think.

Obviously it would depend on when they could show it. If they delay it like they've done with America's Got Talent then it would be pointless in my opinion.”

I doubt they'll show it as it airs due to our version airing, but perhaps might show it next year (could even dump Idol I suppose now it's without Cowell). I'd expect they'll show the US version too, but again if it runs alongside our version it'll probably be delayed. (And the more I here about changes to American Idol, the more I think TXF can be a success in the US).

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wonder why Talking Telephone Numbers was a hit in the 90s but Magic Numbers in the 10s is a flop?
Has TV moved on and people aren't interested in this type of stuff anymore?
Or were people not interested even back then but they ddn't have any alternatives?”

Well back in the 90s it was original, offered the biggest jackpot on UK TV at the time and was actually innovative in people being able to phone up and win - it was not a blatant money grabbing opportunity. And also back in the nineties such shows were slotted into a 30-minute slot and were very pacey, rather than being dragged out for a full hour.


Also talking of Australia, their version of Countdown begins this week: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/08/...d-numbers.html
Dancc
02-08-2010
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.69m
18:30 Dancing with the Stars 1.39m
20:30 Bones (R) 0.95m

Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.65m
18:30 RBT 1.34m
19:00 Send in the Dogs 1.26m
19:30 60 Minutes 1.27m
20:30 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (16/23) 0.95m

Ten
18:30 Modern Family (12/24) 1.04m
19:00 Rules of Engagement (3/13) 0.85m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 1.33m
*top rated show of the night in all key demos - 16-39, 18-49 & 25-54.
20:30 The Good Wife (22/23) 0.97m

ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.88m
19:30 Life 0.79m
20:30 Return to Cranford 0.66m

ONE
21:50 Formula One: Hungarian Grand Prix Live 0.35m
Only_You
02-08-2010
Dancc, it’s probably a long shot but do you have or know where to find the ratings for the David Jason programme Albert’s Memorial when it was shown in Australia on the 13th December 2009 (not sure what channel).
Dancc
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by Only_You:
“Dancc, it’s probably a long shot but do you have or know where to find the ratings for the David Jason programme Albert’s Memorial when it was shown in Australia on the 13th December 2009 (not sure what channel).”

579,000. 17th most watched programme that day.

It was shown on ABC1.
Only_You
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“579,000. 17th most watched programme that day.

It was shown on ABC1.”

That was quick!!

Thanks mate!

It's strange how they get some of our programmes on air before us sometimes ... it was the same with Wallace and Gromit - Matter of Loaf and Death IIRC, but that was only by a few weeks not months and months like AM.
sn_22
02-08-2010
Few things to catch up on...

Thanks for the list of comedies, Pizza. While there's a couple of very successful comedies on there (G&S, Outnumbered, Benidorm), it does highlight the decline of the genre. More subtle, niche, single cam programmes are the only ones finding success - The Vicar of Dibley was probably the last of the big, traditional sitcoms. Not sure why when the likes of CBS in the US have massively successful traditional comedies. Sad to see ITV turning away from the genre too. I know the hit rate is notoriously low, but I can't see sitcoms doing worse than many of their dramas these days, and they'd be cheaper to produce too.

On the Australian X Factor point - it looks very promising. The past failure shouldn't really worry them - it's evolved massively, and globally has really overtaken the Idol franchise. Cowell has now personally shifted the balance of power, I feel - and I think ratings observers in the US will be surprised just how drastically Idol could fall without him, and how big TXF with him, could be.

Finally, about last night's ratings. Pretty terrible for ITV and lacklustre for BBC One too - though I do think Casualty proves its worth by propping up the schedule somewhat during these difficult summer months. The Athletics on BBC Two didn't so much 'dent' the big two, as I reckon it could have beaten both of them between 7 and 9. Heartening to see for an athletics fan like myself - especially as the regular meets seem to struggle.

Georged123, I'm sure London 2012 will be absolutely huge. The event will be all-consuming - not least in terms of the wall-to-wall BBC coverage. When you consider what the WC can pull for group matches between teams no-one really cares for, or what Murray can do in an exciting primetime match at Wimbledon - I genuinely think London 2012 will be hitting 10m and more each and every night.
Georged123
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Georged123, I'm sure London 2012 will be absolutely huge. The event will be all-consuming - not least in terms of the wall-to-wall BBC coverage. When you consider what the WC can pull for group matches between teams no-one really cares for, or what Murray can do in an exciting primetime match at Wimbledon - I genuinely think London 2012 will be hitting 10m and more each and every night.”

I think your probably right about 10m. The interest will be huge and im sure the BBC will have some influence in getting the top events (100m final, competions with top athletes, British football team matches etc) in the best slots for them.
newkid30
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by Sun!:
“Didnt Take me out have quite good ratings for ITV? and I cant imagine it was very expensive to make.”

Yip Take Me Out did better than Tonight's the Night, but not hugely, I think it averaged around 4.5m, so will have to see the end of season averages for both, I guess
grahamzxy
02-08-2010
Hope SH does well for BBC when the overnights come in Monday - holding 7million will be impressive - just noticed it started when Heartbeat was already on and took on taggart head to head and clashed with Athletics and Top Gear - so maybe 6.5million is more realistic.

Sorry to see PJ leave here for good, but at least he can concentrate on his day job now - best not to mix work and pleasure as a rule.
derek500
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“
If Sky picked up True Blood I don't see where else it would go but Sky1 and Sky1 isn't ad-free.”

I might be in luck with my ad-free wish.

Quote:
“The idea is for Sky to bundle up this programming – along with News Corps FX Channel – into a premium package aimed at attracting new dish subscribers so far unmoved by the broadcaster's sports and movies offering. At the same time, pay-per-view rivals, such as BT and cable operators, are unlikely to have access to shows like Sopranos and Sex and the City. "Even Guardian readers might take a dish if it means they get to see the next season of Curb Your Enthusiasm before the DVD box set comes out," according to one insider.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...-deal-tv-drama
Steve Williams
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Thanks for the list of comedies, Pizza. While there's a couple of very successful comedies on there (G&S, Outnumbered, Benidorm), it does highlight the decline of the genre. More subtle, niche, single cam programmes are the only ones finding success - The Vicar of Dibley was probably the last of the big, traditional sitcoms. Not sure why when the likes of CBS in the US have massively successful traditional comedies. Sad to see ITV turning away from the genre too. I know the hit rate is notoriously low, but I can't see sitcoms doing worse than many of their dramas these days, and they'd be cheaper to produce too.”

One of the problems is that nobody wants to make them anymore, and when they do the idiot likes of Sam Wollaston in The Guardian slag them off for being "too old fashioned" and featuring "canned laughter". Yet all comedy writers are influenced by the likes of The Simpsons, Friends and Seinfeld, which on American telly all went out in the middle of prime time on the major networks.

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wonder why Talking Telephone Numbers was a hit in the 90s but Magic Numbers in the 10s is a flop?
Has TV moved on and people aren't interested in this type of stuff anymore?
Or were people not interested even back then but they ddn't have any alternatives?”

I don't know why they didn't just call it Talking Telephone Numbers rather than Magic Numbers, at least people know what Talking Telephone Numbers was, which would at least have given it a bit of an advantage. Instead you've got a show you've never heard of with a presenter you've barely seen.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Chris, I saw a chart show last night and it was all bland pop, dance and r and b. No doubt come Christmas the X Factor production line will be cranked up.”

Sigh. If only there was some sort of way we could work out what people wanted to hear. Perhaps someone could compile a chart of what's been sell... oh. If you don't like the music in the charts, there's an obvious way to solve that - buy other music and get that in the charts.
D.M.N.
02-08-2010
From Attentional.

Friday 30th July 2010
Channel 4
19:30 - One Under: 530,000 (2.6%)

Discovery
21:00 - Clash of the Dinosaurs: 39,800 (0.2%)
* slot average: 43,700 (0.2%)

Saturday 31st July 2010
Channel 4
15:55 - Come Dine with Me Down Under: 910,000 (9.3%)
* note: Attentional says 91,000 - which is an obvious typo
17:30 - Come Dine with Me Down Under: 1.8m (14%)
dubsj
02-08-2010
Sunday 1.8.2010

Top Gear 4.7m / 20.3%
Heartbeat 4.3m / 18.4%
Amish: 2.3m / 9.4%
Big Brother: 2.4m / 9.5%

Waiting for Sherlock
D.M.N.
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Sunday 1.8.2010

Top Gear 4.7m / 20.3%
Heartbeat 4.3m / 18.4%
Amish: 2.3m / 9.4%
Big Brother: 2.4m / 9.5%

Waiting for Sherlock”

Is Sherlock's rating too high that it's not been recorded? Thanks Dubsj.

Alright for Top Gear considering the later slot.. as for Heartbeat, I guess the guys two weeks ago who said it'd tumble were correct.
Dancc
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“From Attentional.

Saturday 31st July 2010
Channel 4
15:55 - Come Dine with Me Down Under: 910,000 (9.3%)
* note: Attentional says 91,000 - which is an obvious typo
17:30 - Come Dine with Me Down Under: 1.8m (14%)”

Very impressive! Look at those shares.

Good pickup by Channel 4.
dubsj
02-08-2010
Sherlock 6.4m / 25.6%
Don't Stop Believing 587,000 / 2.4%
D.M.N.
02-08-2010
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Sherlock 6.4m / 25.6%”

That's pretty good all considering.

Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Don't Stop Believing 587,000 / 2.4%”



dubsj, do you know how the F1 did yesterday?
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