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The Ratings Thread (Part 10)
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Desert Rat
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Well compared to last year it's 100 times better. Ratings don't matter this year really as the axe has already fallen - but basically the damage was done last year and once people get out of the BB habit, it's very difficult to lure them back. Since BB3 only BB5 and BB7 have seen an increase in ratings on the previous year, and they were pretty small increases too.

If anything though BB11's biggest problem is it could go a similar route to BB9 with very one-sided evictions seeing the entertaining big characters leave week after week, leaving a group of dullards in at the end.”

The only positive about this year is that BB10 was terrible at first but once they put new people in, it did become vintage BB. I'm not holding out much hope, but its a possibility that there could be a huge improvement next Friday. I just see myself as a casual viewer just now, but could change again.

I wouldn't call BB3 and BB5 having a small increase either, it was 1.4m and 0.5m Every other series rated 4.6/4.7m though.
ZoeMcCallister
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV3
19:00 - Agatha Christie's Marple: 640,000 (3.0%)

[
Five USA
22:00 - Steven Seagal: Lawman: 406,000 (2%)
22:30 - Steven Seagal: Lawman: 286,000 (1.7%)

Very good rating for E4's first look for Hollyoaks. Cue low rating on Channel 4 tomorrow evening... ”

The ITV3 early drama repeats are doing an excellent job in attracting the soap viewers and later on the anti football viewers post 9pm. Lewis, Marple and Poirot have performed excellently lately.

Also quite impressive for the Steven Seagal doc-new factual programming for FIVE:USA I guess?

Hollyoaks @ 7 also benefiting from weak BBC1 and ITV1 competition. 0.7m combined is excellent. The Monday showings always seem to be the highest, so maybe this is where all the big episodes should air, rather than Fridays where the lowest rated episodes air. Personally one of the things I would do is send Hollyoaks to 4 episodes (Mon-Thu).
Jonwo
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
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Also quite impressive for the Steven Seagal doc-new factual programming for FIVE:USA I guess?”

It's a factual import, given how much Five show Seagal films, showing Steven Seagal: Lawman is quite fitting.

Police Interceptors seems to picking up and I imagine the show will rotate with Gadget Show, Fifth Gear got a 20 episode order but I reckon it's a goner once that order is done.
Brekkie
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Hollyoaks @ 7 also benefiting from weak BBC1 and ITV1 competition. 0.7m combined is excellent. The Monday showings always seem to be the highest, so maybe this is where all the big episodes should air, rather than Fridays where the lowest rated episodes air.”

That's a bit of a chicken and the egg situation though. At the moment the shows towards the end of the week are not getting the ratings because the storylines aren't building throughout the week as the used too - but when they do (like Calvin's murder), the audience doesn't seem to be there either.

It's quality not quantity which is the problem at the moment and axing an episode wouldn't change anything.
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Constructing an 'official figure' from the BARB ratings is definitely possible.

But it could be difficult as we'll have to rely on BARB reporting 3 BBC1 ratings and 3 BBC HD ratings for each broadcast in their lists to construct the 'official whole coverage' rating. The BBC1 ratings should be no problem, but I suspect the pre-match HD figure might not chart which would cause an issue. I guess we'll have to wait and see what charts and what doesn't!”

Would that be weighted correctly, though, according to the various parts' durations? And would we even have end-times for the games' post-match analyses?

Last year, when people were cobbling together the two BARB ratings for the 2nd April EastEnders, there was no weighting, which made it unfair because the two parts had different durations and we didn't know what those durations were because we didn't have an exact end-time for the second part. Further, we didn't know whether BARB had taken 90 seconds out of the first rating for the news summary that never was.
KennyT
29-06-2010
Got to get BARB ratings for BBC1 shows first!!!!

Originally Posted by BARB:
“BBC1
w/e 20 Jun 2010

There is no data available for this channel for this week on the website. If you require the top 10 programmes for this channel please contact a data bureau or look at the Total Weekly Viewing Summary to see if the channel was reported during this period.”

What's the problem, MikeTeeVee?

K
D.M.N.
29-06-2010
BBC have updated their side of the EPG for Friday and Saturday... ITV haven't though, Saturday for them is still showing two WC games with Friday no WC games when it should be the other way around!

Does anyone have a TV guide on them for next week which lists ITV alternative schedule for Saturday?
Charnham
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC have updated their side of the EPG for Friday and Saturday... ITV haven't though, Saturday for them is still showing two WC games with Friday no WC games when it should be the other way around!

Does anyone have a TV guide on them for next week which lists ITV alternative schedule for Saturday?”

Digiguide had the BBC listings last night
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Its a huge amount if its true, though ITV's policy appears to be to sign anything that moves at the moment. Apart from Gavin and Stacey, Corden's laddish cuddly fat bloke routine does seem to be rather limited. Though presumably a golden handcuffs deal would keep him off the BBC which i reckon is half the purpose of this aggression in the market.”

ITV seem to be adopting the RTE approach of buying up everything and everyone they can, just to stop any other broadcaster getting a look-in.

RTE, partly funded a a TV Licence, gets criticism from many for this, so I'm assuming the critics will feel the same way about ITV's trolley dash.
Dancc
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Would that be weighted correctly, though, according to the various parts' durations? And would we even have end-times for the games' post-match analyses?

Last year, when people were cobbling together the two BARB ratings for the 2nd April EastEnders, there was no weighting, which made it unfair because the two parts had different durations and we didn't know what those durations were because we didn't have an exact end-time for the second part. Further, we didn't know whether BARB had taken 90 seconds out of the first rating for the news summary that never was. ”

Very true. I don't think you can construct a properly weighted average for the entire coverage with ratings only for parts that are not of equal length.

For me this one is very simple anyway. If ITV have chosen not to split up their coverage into prematch, match & postmatch slots in the officials, then we should respect that and follow that when putting together our charts for the year. BARB is not at fault here, since ITV wanted it this way, so we shouldn't have to bend over backwards to try and make ITV's figs look more equal to the BBC's. Just let it be.
D.M.N.
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Very true. I don't think you can construct a properly weighted average for the entire coverage with ratings only for parts that are not of equal length.

For me this one is very simple anyway. If ITV have chosen not to split up their coverage into prematch, match & postmatch slots in the officials, then we should respect that and follow that when putting together our charts for the year. BARB is not at fault here, since ITV wanted it this way, so we shouldn't have to bend over backwards to try and make ITV's figs look more equal to the BBC's. Just let it be.”

Agreed, but someone will probably try and compare ITV's and BBC's equally which is impossible to do.
KennyT
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Very true. I don't think you can construct a properly weighted average for the entire coverage with ratings only for parts that are not of equal length.

For me this one is very simple anyway. If ITV have chosen not to split up their coverage into prematch, match & postmatch slots in the officials, then we should respect that and follow that when putting together our charts for the year. BARB is not at fault here, since ITV wanted it this way, so we shouldn't have to bend over backwards to try and make ITV's figs look more equal to the BBC's. Just let it be.”

Perhaps, if we have the figures available, the 15-min peaks would be a fairer comparison?

K
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC have updated their side of the EPG for Friday and Saturday... ITV haven't though, Saturday for them is still showing two WC games with Friday no WC games when it should be the other way around!

Does anyone have a TV guide on them for next week which lists ITV alternative schedule for Saturday?”

1.00pm Columbo
3.00 Midsomer Murders
5.00 Film: Kangaroo Jack
6.35 Regional News
6.45 News
7.00 Animals Do the Funniest Things
8.00 Midsomer Murders.
10.00 News
10.30 Football highlights.
GeorgeS
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Yes Christmas does seem to be the only active film time at Beeb these days..”

Shrek gets wheeled out to try to suffucate new ITV shows at birth from time to time in that grand old BBC tradition of King Herod
D.M.N.
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“1.00pm Columbo
3.00 Midsomer Murders
5.00 Film: Kangaroo Jack
6.35 Regional News
6.45 News
7.00 Animals Do the Funniest Things
8.00 Midsomer Murders.
10.00 News
10.30 Football highlights.”

They'd have been better putting on YBF! at 7pm with a Harry Potter film repeat at 7:30pm. At least something 'different'.
Dancc
29-06-2010
Quote:
“A new digital channel called Vintage TV, aimed at the over-50s, will launch in September on Sky and Freesat reaching more than 10 million homes.

Vintage TV will broadcast shows dedicated to music, culture, fashion and trends from the 1940s to the 1980s.

The channel is in talks with Channel 4, ITN and the BBC to buy archive entertainment and other content.”

Source & more: http://www.brandrepublic.com/news/10...alist-channel/
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“They'd have been better putting on YBF! at 7pm with a Harry Potter film repeat at 7:30pm. At least something 'different'.”

I think they might change the schedule a bit. Four hours of Midsomer Murders is a bit much.

Then again, didn't they have two Frost eps in last Saturday's alternative schedule?
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Some sad Freeview news to report. 4TV Interactive is closing, as in the service that provides EPG data to various PVRs from manufacturers like DigiFusion, Sony and Thomson via overnight download. The contract to provide the EPG services to these boxes has not been renewed. Any Freeview PVR that uses listings from 4TV (14 Day Guide) except the Top Up TV box will be rendered virtually useless from 8th July.”



I don't know if mine will be affected or not. Mine only has a 7 Day guide.
Dancc
29-06-2010
Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 go live on Digital Terrestrial in August, providing Top Up TV and BT Vision customers the option of receiving premium sports from Sky for the first time via their normal roof aerial.

But according to mlt11 on the Top Up TV forum:
Quote:
“Sky's live Football League matches on Friday 6th August, Saturday 7th August and Friday 13th August will all be broadcast live on Sky Sports 3.”

Funny that. It's almost as if they are avoiding scheduling the UK's most popular sport on the channels which will be available across all digital TV platforms for the first time...

But nah, I'm sure those lovely cuddly fluffy wonderful HD providing all signing all dancing people at Sky wouldn't do a naughty thing like that. Probably a mere listings error !
gottago
29-06-2010
Lmao! Sounds like when they 'coincidentally' started airing sport on Sky1 when it was off Virgin Media!
Dancc
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“

I don't know if mine will be affected or not. Mine only has a 7 Day guide. ”

You should be fine, mate. 4TV boxes should go up to 14 days (currently 8 and falling) with the exception of the Sony that only covers 8 as standard as most Sony boxes use the Freeview guide.
Pizzatheaction
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“You should be fine, mate. 4TV boxes should go up to 14 days (currently 8 and falling) with the exception of the Sony that only covers 8 as standard as most Sony boxes use the Freeview guide.”

Thanks, Dancc. I hope so, because I only bought the thing in April.

I haven't had it very long, but I don't think I could cope with going back to manual timings!
Dancc
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by gottago:
“Lmao! Sounds like when they 'coincidentally' started airing sport on Sky1 when it was off Virgin Media!”



I remember that. Now they have an extra weapon in Sky Sports News since that is also going pay.
Brekkie
29-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 go live on Digital Terrestrial in August, providing Top Up TV and BT Vision customers the option of receiving premium sports from Sky for the first time via their normal roof aerial.

But according to mlt11 on the Top Up TV forum:


Funny that. It's almost as if they are avoiding scheduling the UK's most popular sport on the channels which will be available across all digital TV platforms for the first time...

But nah, I'm sure those lovely cuddly fluffy wonderful HD providing all signing all dancing people at Sky wouldn't do a naughty thing like that. Probably a mere listings error !”

LOL - so true.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Very true. I don't think you can construct a properly weighted average for the entire coverage with ratings only for parts that are not of equal length.

For me this one is very simple anyway. If ITV have chosen not to split up their coverage into prematch, match & postmatch slots in the officials, then we should respect that and follow that when putting together our charts for the year. BARB is not at fault here, since ITV wanted it this way, so we shouldn't have to bend over backwards to try and make ITV's figs look more equal to the BBC's. Just let it be.”

I don't think ITV have much choice due to the ad rules - if the build-up was considered a separate show, it could only have a break mid-way through then just before kick-off, but as part of a 2 hr+ show it can have another break in that first hour too.

Personally though I think BARB should report things as they are scheduled.
KennyT
29-06-2010
This week in the "others top 30" table (including E4 this week but still not ITV1HD, apparently)

BBC3 16 entries
Of which, 10 were Family Guy.

K

Still worth a , I think!
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