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Is the number of failed recordings increasing?
After having only the occasional "failed for no reason" frustration, now for me the frequency is up. My latest is Toots & the Maytals from Glastonbury
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It seems to happen with series for me.
I have Midsomer Murders on ITV HD on series link and it's failing to record about one in three. Everything else, series and one offs is recording perfectly. Before that it was Lewis that ITV had cocked up. So until a couple of months ago I think it had only happened 3/4 times in nearly a year and a half. |
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I had Glastonbury recording in series link with no problems.
The series folder for the whole series was called “Glastonbury Gorillaz”. The only thing that the HDR missed was the beginning of Sunday night with Steve Wonder but this was just a bad cut in from the BBC because they were so busy telling us about what's on tomorrow instead of concentrating on today. All recording were with BBC HD, I did not bother with any BBC 3 Glastonbury programming. |
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We have been seeing that on a number of occasions the broadcasters have changed EventIDs of programmes mid-week and this means that when an item is set to a one-time record it will fail because the event you booked no longer exists (Programme CRID is used for series linked items).
I don't know what would cause series links to have issues. Bob |
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I don't know what would cause series links to have issues.
Presumably ITV just don't send (or raise) the 'programme is now running' flag. A sanity check by the Foxsat so that it started recording for the advertised length of time if it got the appropriate programme details but no start signal (after, say, five minutes) would be sensible. |
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same story here - could count on one hand the number of "failed - unknown reason" we have had since we got the box.
Turned it on yesterday (after ignoring it for a few days) and had five of them on the screen Usual culprits - series-linked Lewis and Midsomer Murders on ITV... |
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For me, yes but it only appears to be ITV HD, Ive had at least 3 WC games not start to record for no reason.
I wish we could get some technical reasons for this happening like start signal not sent instead of unknown problem all the time. |
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There is clearly a problem with some ITV1-HD series linked reservations and the Foxsat-hdr which seemed to start with Lewis. Last nights Emmerdale failed in exactly the same way, The episode was clearly marked to record in both the epg and the schedule. Once again the recording failed to start and eventually the broken recording entry in the media list appeared.
Question is it just the Foxsat that has the problem or are other makes similary affected ? |
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Its not a series link problem for me, I set up to record all the WC matches individually and 4 have failed so far on ITV. Yesterday it switched off during ET too.
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Its not a series link problem for me, I set up to record all the WC matches individually and 4 have failed so far on ITV. Yesterday it switched off during ET too.
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Emmerdale (ITV HD) failed last night & so did today at Wimbledon (BBC HD), both on series link. Had a failed recording for Em. but nothing for TaW. I've just done a factory reset & re-entered all the schedule to see if this helps.
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emmerdale on series link also failed down here..
and since padding out to 17minutes to catch 'Peppa pig' the output does not go into the established folder.. |
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We have also observed quite a number of programmes appearing without any CRID information or starting with CRIDs but they go missing.
Bob |
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presume that would explain the Foxsat waking up to record, but not actually starting to record ?
I am pretty sure I observed that the other day .... |
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One concern I did have was the time that The Prisoner on ITV HD failed to record so did CSI:New York on Five. It seemed suspiciously like the ITV HD problem confused the box so much that it couldn't do anything. I remember that it looked as if it was recording but I didn't actually bring it out of standby to check.
Anyway I've had no problems since switching from accurate record to a minute before/after. I'm pretty convinced therefore that it's ITV HD not the Foxsat. I'd trust the Foxsat as much as I trust my Sky HD box and that's saying something
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We have also observed quite a number of programmes appearing without any CRID information or starting with CRIDs but they go missing.
Bob PS Recording started fine, same series reservation that failed last night
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Anyway I've had no problems since switching from accurate record to a minute before/after.
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But do your progs then go into the main series folder>
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It's a complete shambles, but is it Humax's shambles or ITV's ?
As all recording failures are my fault I am now using ITV2 in the hope everything works and I no longer get ear ache. Dan. |
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Since we moved from Freeview (Humax 9200) to Freesat (Foxsat) I've been really disappointed by the number of failed recordings. From memory I know that Emmerdale failed last night but recorded fine tonight. Jeremy Kyle constantly fails which is probably not a bad thing
. I've missed at least one world cup game with the game yesterday (Japan v Paraguay) totally failing to record. I'm sure Corra has failed in the past and we've had issues with Gok failing to record.It drives the wife mad and although the Foxsat is a step-up from the 9200 in many regards the number of failed recording seems to detract from everything else the box offers. We're in the Yorkshire region. |
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Just gone into Media List. Lewis, emmerdale, 2corries and another Emerdale all failed. Channel 103. This is now beyond a joke.
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Yes but they won't if you edit them they become one offs. anyway update Emmerdale recorded and stopped at the end of the last ads. The follow up Corrie also series record failed to start, had to initiate an instant recording. It's a complete shambles, but is it Humax's shambles or ITV's ?
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I got Emmerdale & Corrie, both on series link with no padding.
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But do your progs then go into the main series folder>
I'm not aware of any cases where a programme appears to be orphaned but tbh I don't use my HDR as much as I use my other PVR so it's probably not getting the same workout that others here give it. |
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My money (1p) is on ITV, Coronation Street failed (ITV London 103). When I pressed 'i' on the remote there was no program synopsis in the schedual but there was in the channel listing if that makes sense.
As all recording failures are my fault I am now using ITV2 in the hope everything works and I no longer get ear ache. Dan. The only time you might be let down is if there is a schedule change. I don't know if the HDR will spot the change in the schedule - I don't even know if it's looking. It depends whether the box stores a reference to the CRID in that situation or just the start/stop time as given by the EPG at the time of creation. Also in power saving mode it just might never be in a position to see the schedule change anyway. |
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