It would have to at very short notice. The epg gets updated overnight as part of the house keeping routines. When on the next few hours is constantly trickle charged. In any case the failed recordings are not suffering from this. The schedule contains the correct data, the transmission goes ahead as per the schedule the hdr simply fails to start recording because it does not get the correct Accurate Recording codes for the scheduled event. Setting auto padding which disables AR results in a recording every time

I know but if. say, an event was postponed on the day and so the broadcaster moved a later programme forwards to accommodate the new event time, it wouldn't get picked up if the box was off until the original scheduled recording time.

I'm not sure this ever happens, though (or if it does, it may only be a once every few of years).

Just set the box to boot up 2hrs or so before any recording is due and then shut down, or make short dummy repeat recording every day

That's getting into the realms of the absurd. No TV programme is that important.

I'm also not sure where you get the 'just' from. Even if it were a function of the box (and you'd need it to keep waking up in case you were recording two or three programmes and they sneaked in a reschedule between them), it would be a PITA.

The hdr can be set to auto on on any channel you choose and auto off with a simple menu setting so yes it's just. So it is a function of the box.

Sorry, you've lost me there.

What does 'set to auto on on any channel you choose' and 'auto off with a simple menu setting' mean?

As far as I'm concerned my box is set to auto on all channels. It automatically records what I tell it and turns itself off afterwards,

Is this some more confusing Humax terminology?

MENU / SETTINGS / TIME

Power On
Power On Channel
Power Off

P41 user manual.

Setting a watch reservation will do much the same thing

I just wanted to check exactly what you meant.

It still wouldn't overcome the problem of, say, trying to record something at 1:00pm and something else at 5:00pm if they moved the 'wrong' one of them forward an hour three hours before it was originally scheduled because you could only wake the box once.

It would also be hit and miss even with one recording because you might set it to come on before the schedule change and thus not get said change or else after the change and miss the programme.

I think we have to accept that this particular problem (which may be completely hypothetical - no one has yet piped up to offer an instance of it happening), is the price we have to pay for the ultra low power standby.

Even if it would work reliably it's a ridiculous amount of trouble to go to every time you want to set a recording.

I agree - more so if the box is in full standby since it doesn't wake up until two minutes before it's due to start recording. What I don't know is if the box will adjust recordings based on EPG changes and I'm beginning to suspect (as another poster mentioned actually) that it doesn't.

Let's say my next Midsomer recording has been set up for 4pm by series link (or direct from the EPG). If I bring the box out of standby at 3pm that gives it plenty of time to parse the EPG. Would it notice if MM had been changed to 3:30pm and correct accordingly?

I can see that it wouldn't for a manual recording since that's your problem but if the recording was initiated through the EPG I'd hope it would.

Sky+ would. Then again you'd hope so - those damn' boxes burn 20w even in standby so you'd hope they weren't just sitting on their hands

2 more FAILEd Corrie recordings last night..and now possibly a phenomena LINKED to reordings
Have the usual Edale Etc down for tonight..BUT
At900PM i tried to record BB and also at the second part at 2230..These are on C4 of course..
CONFLICTS it says and offers next Monday or some such..
Now NOWT at all is scheduled for recording on the set during those hours..and No padding on any progs before that time..
Trivial to RESET BUT
Is there something here that may help us all??
I have progged them on the old Panny which never causes trouble..
Any ideas before i RESET?

Stan

The hdr wakes up from full sby 15mins before a scheduled event is due. When on holiday I use a programmeable remote to boot the box twice a day to get over the power cut bug. Since most of my recordings starts at around 18:00 it would be very simple to add a daily watch reservation from say 17:00-17:30 which will give an hours grace. Not tried this as not experienced any problem in this respect.

Can you actually remember any instances of that happening, though?

If I've ever experienced it I've forgotten.

I think the TV companies would be loath to reschedule programmes earlier in the day because they'd be inundated with complaints from those who missed them even without an HDR being involved.

I'm pretty sure that the Humax can handle programmes being rescheduled later. There's no good reason why it shouldn't.

In any event, the success rate for HDR recordings, even with ITV persistently screwing up Midsomer is still far higher that it ever was with a VCR.

CH4 have given the same prog crid on the C4 and C4+1 versions of BB but a different series crid. As soon as you try and set the series recording for part 2 on CH4 it generates a clash because the hdr is trying to record the C4+1 version of PT1 at the same time.

If you set a series record on the C4+1 first part it will work

Regarding Midsomer Murders today @ 1600

Freeview hummy (9200t) shows slightly odd behaviour - the EPG entry didn't display that it was going to be recorded, but it was in the record schedule. It did record.

Freesat hummy - same as above ( i.e. in schedule but not not shown on in EPG as to be recorded) but didn't record it.

Could assume that the same underlying data problem is present on both freesat and freeview (not totally unsurprising) but the 9200's code deals with it, whilst the foxsat does not ...
But then again, there is some weird weird stuff going on with the 9200 since the cached epg sw update, so this might be a red herring ...

But again that data problem does not appear in the Sky EPG or if it did then no ill affect - set here on ITV1 HD on Sky HD box and recording OK. How can they mess it up so much or is it a Humax HDR only problem.

Not sure but I have seen one report from a Panasonic freesat pvr reporting identical problems. Trouble is the number of Humax-hdrs around you naturally get many more postings. It does seem to be a bit random with a few reporting it works for them. As the problem only manifests on ITV 1 (SD and HD), follow up recordings on ITV2 always work properly there has to be something different about how ITV1 are implementing AR even different from their own other channels.

As Andrue pointed out, Sky+ does not do accurate recording (not sure that Freesat does much either ) so it can't be screwed up by the accurate recording data being incorrect.

In reality, it's only these last few weeks, when ITV seem to have completely lost the plot, that it's been any sort of problem for the average Freesat user.

I think you will find that Sky does accurate recording if you mean relying on the start and end signals sent by the broadcasters - in its automatic setting. It certainly does rely on end signals as has been proven several times when recordings of the last programme of the day have continued through the night when the broadcaster has forgotten to send that signal. Whether it totally relies on the start signal is not clear as I have seen recordings do two different things on slightly delayed programmes - either starting at advertised time or starting at actual start of the programme. Or is there a totally different mechanism with the freesat boxes?

Does it? All I've noticed is that the clock appears one minute before a recording is due.

Curious. Mine recorded 62 minutes but the synopsis claims it's Celebrity Pressure Cooker. Same with yesterday's recording. I guess we need to recreate the timer entry :-/

Whatever ITV is doing it sure is screwing up ITV HD

Sorry to keep asking for information again and again but this is getting really involved, now and I can't remember who's doing what.

Are you using accurate recording or padding?

If you're using padding I'd expect it to come on 1 min before the due time. If autorecord, 15 mins as mine has for the last ~eighteen months.

It should go into pre-recording sby (pressing boot gives an instant picture) 15 mins before a recording falls due. If you are in non-freesat and the box is on then 15 mins before the recording is due to start (provided you went into non-freesat more than 15 mins before the recording is due to start you get a message and if not responded to the box will switch to freesat mode. If in full sby and you went into sby in non-freesat the box switches back to freesat mode 15 mins before the recording is due. If you put the box in sby less than 15 mins before a recording is due then the box goes to pre-recording sby. (The clock displays). Turning off power saving in sby displays the clock 24/7. If yours does not summats up

What if he has padding set rather than AR?

I presume that the 15 mins early is so that the HDR can reload the EPG and notice any changes. Does anyone know if this is so?

Yes but I think, more importantly, if it gets the appropriate start signal for a programme it's supposed to be recording it will commence.

Whether it turns itself on 15 mins early to have a little look-see when you have padding set, though, I don't know.