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Old 25-05-2013, 23:07
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A thousand apologies for being late in posting this week's listings. No fancy excuses - it just slipped my mind. I wouldn't care, but I prepared it specially on Thursday night, knowing it would be needed the next day, but time slipped away and I didn't remember until today. I'll wear sackcloth and ashes for the rest of the week as penance...
Bah, excuses, excuses!

Saturday (25 May)

Ben-Hur (C5) [MGM Camera 65] [2.76:1]
I only saw a bit of it on C5+1, but it was an appalling crop to 16:9. Certainly not the HD OAR glory Channel 4 have shown before.

The Man Who Fell to Earth (BBC 2)
OAR on BBC2, albeit in Dolby Pro Logic on BBC2 HD, not DD5.1. However, is this an OAR premiere?
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Old 26-05-2013, 15:36
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Not sure if either one of 'em has been screened OAR before, but both THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH and THE WACKNESS were shown that way (one after t'other) on BBC 2 last night.
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Old 26-05-2013, 15:52
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Not sure if either one of 'em has been screened OAR before, but both THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH and THE WACKNESS were shown that way (one after t'other) on BBC 2 last night.
I remember The Wackness has, on BBC1 in 2011 (it stuck in my mind as I was surprised) but I'm thinking Bowie's film was an OAR premiere.
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Old 26-05-2013, 21:11
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Premieres of Another Year (C4) and Drag Me To Hell (C5) both showing in OAR now.
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Old 27-05-2013, 15:43
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DRAG ME TO HELL premiered OAR on C5 last night, but MY SOUL TO TAKE (same channel) was cropped/reframed.
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Old 27-05-2013, 15:59
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DRAG ME TO HELL premiered OAR on C5 last night, but MY SOUL TO TAKE (same channel) was cropped/reframed.
Different studios, and I have heard (in relation to HBO) that Lionsgate contractually oblige studios to broadcast OAR. Don't know if there's any truth behind that though...
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Old 27-05-2013, 17:28
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Looking down this weeks list,it seems that Tooth Fairy was shown cropped but it never appeared to be a film that was when watching it
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Old 27-05-2013, 20:15
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DRAG ME TO HELL premiered OAR on C5 last night
Am I alone in thinking this was crap?
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Old 27-05-2013, 20:30
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Looking down this weeks list,it seems that Tooth Fairy was shown cropped but it never appeared to be a film that was when watching it
1.85:1 according to IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808510/technical
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Old 27-05-2013, 22:05
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Silver Hawk (2004) Michelle Yeoh starrer was screened in OAR on CBS Action.

Sword Of Sherwood Forest OAR on BBC2
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Old 28-05-2013, 01:01
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Wyatt Earp ITV 4 virtually full OAR
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Old 28-05-2013, 11:16
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Wyatt Earp ITV 4 virtually full OAR
Virtually full? What ratio was it roughly, please? I see it's on again tonight at 10pm so I'll take a look.
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:42
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Different studios, and I have heard (in relation to HBO) that Lionsgate contractually oblige studios to broadcast OAR. Don't know if there's any truth behind that though...
I've heard this said a few times throughout this thread, but my experience is somewhat different. They may well oblige TV companies to broadcast material OAR, but quite a few of their home video releases (of scope films) have been cropped/reframed to 16:9. I just wish I could recall the titles!! I recall, because it became really quite frustrating to see this happen so many times. But as I say, TV broadcasts could be handled differently.

Premieres of Another Year (C4) and Drag Me To Hell (C5) both showing in OAR now.
For some reason, I missed this post, otherwise I wouldn't have made my own about DRAG ME TO HELL. Sorry about that!

Looking down this weeks list,it seems that Tooth Fairy was shown cropped but it never appeared to be a film that was when watching it
DVDfever got it right when he said it was 1.85:1. I had a brain-fart and mixed it up with another film starring The Rock (the title of that one escapes me, too!).

Am I alone in thinking this [DRAG ME TO HELL] was crap?
Empty-headed rubbish, I agree. A good idea, wasted (Korean genre filmmakers could have really made something good of it, I'm sure). But Justin Long is always worth watching, even in mediocrities like this (and his career has been largely - though not completely - wasted on similar lightweight material).

Virtually full? What ratio was it roughly, please? I see it's on again tonight at 10pm so I'll take a look.
It was roughly 2.39:1 (not 2.35:1), the full enchilada.
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Old 28-05-2013, 20:42
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Wyatt Earp - It looks more 2:30 than 2:40, it's worth recording for the collection if you dont want it 100% widescreen. Maybe my TV settings are not right.
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Old 28-05-2013, 22:27
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For some reason, I missed this post, otherwise I wouldn't have made my own about DRAG ME TO HELL. Sorry about that!
No-one died. (well except in the film, probably) So we'll let you off

DVDfever got it right when he said it was 1.85:1. I had a brain-fart and mixed it up with another film starring The Rock (the title of that one escapes me, too!).
All of his films are easily forgettable

Re: Wyatt Earp
It was roughly 2.39:1 (not 2.35:1), the full enchilada.
Yep, it was the full thing. Just had a look now.

Wyatt Earp - It looks more 2:30 than 2:40, it's worth recording for the collection if you dont want it 100% widescreen. Maybe my TV settings are not right.
ITV short change on the resolution, so Wyatt Earp is effectively windowboxed on Freeview.

I've realised that, for some unknown reason, while most main channels broadcast in SD in 720x576, the ITV channels broadcast in 704x576. No idea why, but when I want to archive something to DVD, I have to convert it to 720x576 which is a royal pain.
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Old 28-05-2013, 23:43
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I've realised that, for some unknown reason, while most main channels broadcast in SD in 720x576, the ITV channels broadcast in 704x576. No idea why, but when I want to archive something to DVD, I have to convert it to 720x576 which is a royal pain.
Have you tried DVDPatcher?

It can change the video headers in mpeg2 video allowing you to make a DVD out of non-compliant Freeview resolutions without having to re-encode, so it's virtually instant.
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Old 31-05-2013, 13:28
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(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (1 - 7 June):


Saturday (1 June)

Air America (ITV 4)
August Rush (Film 4)
D.A.R.Y.L. (Movie Mix)
The Devil Wears Prada (Film 4)
Drillbit Taylor (Film 4)
Escape to Athena (More 4)
Guns of the Magnificent Seven (5 USA)
The Hills Have Eyes (Film 4)
In God's Hands (Movie Mix)
Kull the Conqueror (ITV 4)
Next (5 USA)
Pearl Harbor (5*)
The Scorpion King (ITV 2)
Shooter (Film 4)
Transformers (C4)
Unbreakable (ITV 2)
Vampires (Movie Mix)
The Vikings (C5) [Technirama]
What a Girl Wants (5*)


Sunday (2 June)

Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (C5)
Bandslam (Film 4)
The Class [Entre les Murs] (Film 4)
Dreamgirls (C4)
Evan Almighty (ITV 2)
Gun for a Coward (5 USA)
Honeymooner (BBC 1)
Nevada Smith (ITV 4)
Nine (C4)
The Poseidon Adventure (Film 4)
Practical Magic (5*)
The Proposal (BBC 3)
The Road (BBC 2)
Stargate (C5)
Summer Holiday (ITV 3)
The Switch (C5)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (ITV 2)
The Tourist (Film 4)
Zoolander (E4)


Monday (3 June)

AVP: Alien vs. Predator (C5)
Death Drums Along the River (Film 4)
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra (Film 4)
A Good Year (Film 4)
In God's Hands (Movie Mix)
Legally Blonde (5*)
The Prince and the Pauper (C4)


Tuesday (4 June)

Bandslam (Film 4)
Drive Angry (5 USA) [3-D] [1.85:1]
The Iron Lady (Film 4)
Mother [마더] (Film 4)
Nevada Smith (ITV 4)
Sudden Impact (5 USA)
Unbreakable (ITV 2)
Vampires (Movie Mix)


Wednesday (5 June)

Air America (ITV 4)
Coyote Ugly (ITV 2)
Damn the Defiant! [HMS Defiant] (Film 4)
Day Watch [Дневной дозор] (Film 4)
Kiss the Girls (Film 4)
The Prophecy (Movie Mix)
Surrogates (BBC 1)
The Wedding Planner (E4)


Thursday (6 June)

AVPR: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (Film 4)
The Devil Wears Prada (Film 4)
Gunman's Walk (Film 4)
The Hindenburg (C4)
In God's Hands (Movie Mix)
Shooter (Film 4)
Tobruk (Film 4)


Friday (7 June)

Escape to Athena (More 4)
Gun Fury (Film 4) [3-D] [1.85:1]
Knights of the Round Table (C4) [2.55:1]
No Escape (C4)
Pearl Harbor (5*)
Point Break (BBC 1)
The Poseidon Adventure (Film 4)
Rendition (More 4)
S.W.A.T. (5 USA)
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Old 31-05-2013, 20:46
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Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron which OAR today.Not bad little animation film that
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:33
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Lymelife BBC2 SCOTLAND OAR transmission
Alien Nation TCM OAR transmission
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:35
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Have you tried DVDPatcher?

It can change the video headers in mpeg2 video allowing you to make a DVD out of non-compliant Freeview resolutions without having to re-encode, so it's virtually instant.
Thanks very much for that. I remember someone once mentioning it to me many moons ago (before I had a need for it) but, yes, it's instant.

Post #3 by mclark_au sums it up:

"Exactly what I needed to allow DVB-T mpeg2 streams to write to DVD with Ulead DVD Workshop.

Only need to patch the first header to make UDWS think the mpeg2 file is compatible.

Allows you to edit mpeg2 bitrate header value from the 15k or so sent in DVB-T to something more friendly like 8k."

I use the same program (well, UDWS2) and while it's way out of date now and no longer supported, it's still a great program.

It never worked in Vista, but works in W7. The only downside is that you can't hear the files as you play them, but I generally just need to add chapters at ad breaks, around opening/closing credits and then approx every 5 mins inbetween.

While I'm just archiving TV material, it's a real bug bear of mine that most DVDs and Blu-rays, of movies, go for a maximum of TWELVE chapters. Even for the Blu-ray of the near-3hr extended version of The Big Blue!
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:52
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Thanks very much for that.
You're welcome.

(sorry for straying off-topic)

I use TMpegEnc for my authoring. I've found it's best to patch the file from 704x576 (or 544x576) to 720x576, then open it with your authoring software, create your menus and chapters, then patch it back to its original resolution and finally let your authoring software process it into dvd vob files in a VIDEO_TS folder. Then burn as normal.
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Old 01-06-2013, 15:20
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I use TMpegEnc for my authoring. I've found it's best to patch the file from 704x576 (or 544x576) to 720x576, then open it with your authoring software, create your menus and chapters, then patch it back to its original resolution and finally let your authoring software process it into dvd vob files in a VIDEO_TS folder. Then burn as normal.
Are we allowing people to make posts in foreign languages now?
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Old 02-06-2013, 19:11
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You're welcome.

(sorry for straying off-topic)

I use TMpegEnc for my authoring. I've found it's best to patch the file from 704x576 (or 544x576) to 720x576, then open it with your authoring software, create your menus and chapters, then patch it back to its original resolution and finally let your authoring software process it into dvd vob files in a VIDEO_TS folder. Then burn as normal.
Just tried it to create menus and chapters, once I'd changed the headers to 720x576 and Ulead DVD Workshop 2 didn't really want to know.

When I went to add the first chapter on a file, at around 20 seconds - after the opening credits of a programme had finished, I typed in 20 where the second go and............................ it took forever to react. Even then it didn't want to save the chapter. I don't think it likes what I did to the file, even though it no longer bloats it to a bigger size when trying to convert it.

I think I'm going to have to go with converting each file, alas
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Old 02-06-2013, 21:01
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The Switch (C5) - in OAR now. From Miramax - are they normally a good bet for OAR films?
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Old 02-06-2013, 21:09
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The Switch (C5) - in OAR now. From Miramax - are they normally a good bet for OAR films?
According to the BBFC The Switch is actually distributed by Lionsgate in the UK, who have recently been good with OAR content...
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