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Again, as expected, CONAN THE BARBARIAN premiered OAR on C5 last night, though not in the original 3-D, which is a bit like watching a cropped version of a scope movie - you're not actually seeing the film as it was meant to be seen.
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Fake 3D anyway, though. I end up just seeing the 2D versions of such films as a result.
http://realorfake3d.com The point being that 'fake' 3-D has made extraordinary leaps and bounds in quality since the early days of 'digital 3-D', and while it's no substitute for 'real' 3-D, you're really missing out if you pass over these versions because you think they're not going to be up to snuff. And even if they aren't, they still represent the film as it was meant to be seen. |
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Clash of the Titans is another example of really poor 2D to 3D conversion
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I used to feel the same way about 'fake' 3-D until I saw the likes of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER and ABRAHAM LINCOLN: VAMPIRE HUNTER, both of them excellent examples of modern 3-D storytelling. Of course, I've also seen some appalling crap like HYBRID, which offers no dimensionality at all and simply offsets the 2-D image from the edges of the frame!
The point being that 'fake' 3-D has made extraordinary leaps and bounds in quality since the early days of 'digital 3-D', and while it's no substitute for 'real' 3-D, you're really missing out if you pass over these versions because you think they're not going to be up to snuff. And even if they aren't, they still represent the film as it was meant to be seen. Quote:
Clash of the Titans is another example of really poor 2D to 3D conversion
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Fake 3D anyway, though. I end up just seeing the 2D versions of such films as a result.
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The point being that 'fake' 3-D has made extraordinary leaps and bounds in quality since the early days of 'digital 3-D', and while it's no substitute for 'real' 3-D, you're really missing out if you pass over these versions because you think they're not going to be up to snuff. And even if they aren't, they still represent the film as it was meant to be seen.
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Why does that site list Kung Fu Panda as fake 3D but re-releases of Toy Story as real 3D. It's animated, surely a similar process has been applied to both?
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Why does that site list Kung Fu Panda as fake 3D but re-releases of Toy Story as real 3D. It's animated, surely a similar process has been applied to both?
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Some films while not filmed in 3D are designed and shot with 3D conversion in mind so the result turns out better compared to films that were shot in 2D then converted into 3D at a later stage although there are exception like Titanic and the various Disney and Pixar films. Lion King and Beauty and the Beast were pretty good in 3D and proves you could have a 3D traditional animation film
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If I like a film then I'll check out the 3D version in the home later on, but in the cinema it's the difference between the £5 I've spent on a 2D ticket via my workplace, and £10 or so for it in 3D.
Oddly enough, I had an opportunity to see two tentpole 3-D conversions over the last few days - STAR TREK: INTO DARKNESS and IRON MAN THREE (both on Blu-ray). I understand the director really wasn't keen to do 3-D on the former, but it actually looks better than in the latter, even though neither film really takes advantage of the process, except in a couple of eye-opening scenes (such as the one in IMT when our hero tries to rescue a group of people plunging to their doom from an exploding plane - don't look down!!! ). There are very few 21st century equivalents of HOUSE OF WAX or FLESH FOR FRANKENSTEIN, that's fer sure...
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(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)
* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings). Scope movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (28 September - 4 October): Saturday (28 September) • 10,000 BC (ITV 1)* • Alien (Film 4) • Evan Almighty (ITV 2) • Happy Feet (ITV 2) • Hitman (C4) • The Informers (C4) • The Kentuckian (C5) [2.55:1] • The Magnificent Seven (C5) • Marley & Me (E4) • MASH (Film 4) • My Super Ex-Girlfriend (Film 4) • Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (BBC 3) • Point Break (C5) • Spartacus (ITV 4) [Super Technirama 70] [2.21:1] • Stormbreaker (Film 4) • The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (C4) • Von Ryan's Express (Film 4) • Wonder Boys (BBC 2) Sunday (29 September) • Black Book [Zwartboek](Film 4) • Close Encounters of the Third Kind (C5) • D.A.R.Y.L. (Movie Mix) • Fast & Furious (ITV 2) • Firefox (ITV 4) • Gone in Sixty Seconds (C5) • Larry Crowne (ITV 1)* • The Life of David Gale (ITV 3) • New Town Killers (BBC 1) • Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (BBC 3) • The Straight Story (Film 4) • Supercop [Police Story III - Super Cop] [警察故事III超級警察] (Movie Mix) • Superman (C5) • Tears of the Sun (Movie Mix) • Timecop (C5) • Transporter 3 [Le Transporteur 3] (Film 4) Monday (30 September) • Bridget Jones's Diary (ITV 2) • Drillbit Taylor (Film 4) • The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo [Män som Hatar Kvinnor] (Film 4) • Hostel (C5) • A Mighty Heart (Film 4) • Secret Window (Movie Mix) • Whiteout (Film 4) Tuesday (1 October) • Independence Day (Film 4) • The Quiller Memorandum (Film 4) • Run Fatboy Run (E4) • Tears of the Sun (Movie Mix) Wednesday (2 October) • Bandslam (E4) • Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason (ITV 2) • Domino (Film 4) • Dreamgirls (Film 4) • The Enemy Below (Film 4) • Great Expectations (Movie Mix) • Hitch (5*) • Judgment Night (BBC 1) • The Rare Breed (Film 4) • Sleepers (ITV 4) Thursday (3 October) • Air America (ITV 4) • Avalanche Express (Film 4) • The Last King of Scotland (Film 4) • Magicians (ITV 1)* • My Super Ex-Girlfriend (Film 4) • Salt (Film 4) • Swordfish (5*) • Von Ryan's Express (Film 4) Friday (4 October) • Airport '77 (Drama) • Fast & Furious (ITV 2) • Great Expectations (Movie Mix) • The Life of David Gale (ITV 3) • Marley & Me (E4) • Rollerball (Movie Mix) • The Sea Chase (Film 4) [2.55:1] • Solaris (Movie Mix) • Stormbreaker (Film 4) • Taken (Film 4) • The Time Traveler's Wife (More 4) • Whip It (ITV 2) |
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Beowolf screened in 2D on ITV a few weeks back, was one of the first Real 3D features, and it was easy to spot that each scene had been set up for 3D. Even in 2D the film demonstrated a lot of depth and space in the few scenes i watched.
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Beowolf screened in 2D on ITV a few weeks back, was one of the first Real 3D features, and it was easy to spot that each scene had been set up for 3D. Even in 2D the film demonstrated a lot of depth and space in the few scenes i watched.
The same director went on to do A CHRISTMAS CAROL, one of the best examples of 21st century 3-D I've seen to date. Oddly, some people loathe and detest this film, for reasons which completely elude me. But each to their own, and all that... |
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I'd love to see that one in 3-D (that opening scene looks incredible, even in 2-D - not to mention incredibly frightening!), even though it's clear the human characters have that 'dead-eyed' appearance that caused so much controversy at the dawn of 'motion capture' technology. I may be wrong, but I don't think BEOWULF has been made available on 3-D Blu-ray, in either the US or UK.
The same director went on to do A CHRISTMAS CAROL, one of the best examples of 21st century 3-D I've seen to date. Oddly, some people loathe and detest this film, for reasons which completely elude me. But each to their own, and all that... I love it when 3D is done well, but that so rarely happens. |
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Not sure if it played in all areas, but 10,000 BC was OAR on ITV 1 last night. Meanwhile, POINT BREAK switched from BBC to C5 - and was STILL cropped to buggery...
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In what must be a first.There was 3 films playing OAR at the same time last night.Wonder Boys on BBC2-10,000 on ITV and Hitman on C4.With The Magnficient Seven showing OAR earlier too,was a good night apart from Point Break
On a different note,watched The Expendables 2 on Netflix USA and it was showing 1.85.The original being 2.39 I investigated and saw the blu ray was 2.39 so tried it on Netflix UK and was showing in 2.39 so why the different ratios in different regions ?? |
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In what must be a first.There was 3 films playing OAR at the same time last night.Wonder Boys on BBC2-10,000 on ITV and Hitman on C4.With The Magnficient Seven showing OAR earlier too,was a good night apart from Point Break
On a different note,watched The Expendables 2 on Netflix USA and it was showing 1.85.The original being 2.39 I investigated and saw the blu ray was 2.39 so tried it on Netflix UK and was showing in 2.39 so why the different ratios in different regions ?? Shame about Point Break. It's a great piece of entertainment. |
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Netflix have a 4:3 version of An American Werewolf In London. It also looks like a VHS copy of the film, it's terrible quality wise.
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Netflix have a 4:3 version of An American Werewolf In London. It also looks like a VHS copy of the film, it's terrible quality wise.
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Netflix have a 4:3 version of An American Werewolf In London. It also looks like a VHS copy of the film, it's terrible quality wise.
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Netflix have a 4:3 version of An American Werewolf In London. It also looks like a VHS copy of the film, it's terrible quality wise.
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The same version appears to have screened on the new Freeview channel True Entertainment, which is broadcasting in 4:3 rather than 16:9. This resulted in a letterboxed version of BAD LIEUTENANT a few weeks back. At least it was (surprisingly) uncut, but still...
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It's a good job the internet doesn't have any other copies of AWiL doing the rounds...
It's pretty ludicrous that someone who tries to watch a licenced copy of the film gets fobbed-off with a shoddy sub-VHS copy in the wrong aspect ratio. Meanwhile, someone who downloads an illegal copy gets it in pristine HD. |
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AIUI, this film is no longer censored by the BBFC so that shouldn't be a problem.
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And I thought pirated copies were supposed to be terrible quality and fill my computer with malware? It said so on a FACT ad, so it must be true.
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It's pretty ludicrous that someone who tries to watch a licenced copy of the film gets fobbed-off with a shoddy sub-VHS copy in the wrong aspect ratio. Meanwhile, someone who downloads an illegal copy gets it in pristine HD.
Ah, the mysteries of life...
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(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)
* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings). Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (5 - 11 October): Saturday (5 October) • Airport '77 (Drama) • Battle of the Bulge (C5) [Ultra Panavision 70] [2.76:1] • Billion Dollar Brain (ITV 4) • Blood Alley (C5) [2.55:1] • The Boat That Rocked (ITV 4) • Cabin Fever (5*) • Drillbit Taylor (Film 4) • Friends With Benefits (C4) • Heartbreaker [L'Arnacoeur] (BBC 2) • Journey to the Center of the Earth (More 4) • The Keep (C4) • Lethal Weapon 3 (C5) • The Magnificent Seven (C5) • Mercury Rising (ITV 1)* • Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium (ITV 1) • Nim's Island (5*) • No Escape (Film 4) • Peter Pan (CITV) • Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (BBC 3) • The Quiller Memorandum (Film 4) • Run Fatboy Run (E4) Sunday (6 October) • Bandslam (E4) • Billion Dollar Brain (ITV 4) • The Graduate (ITV 3) • Independence Day (Film 4) • The Joneses (Film 4) • Killers (C5) • The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (ITV 2) • New Moon (Film 4) • Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (BBC 3) • Plunkett & Macleane (ITV 4) • The Secret War of Harry Frigg (ITV 4) • Solaris (Movie Mix) • Superman II (C5) • The Time Machine (C5) • The Year of Living Dangerously (BBC 2) Monday (7 October) • Avalanche Express (Film 4) • Better Things (Film 4) • Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason (ITV 2) • Great Expectations (Movie Mix) • Hitch (5*) • Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham... [कभी ख़ुशी कभी ग़म] (C4) • Ladyhawke (Film 4) • Pillow Talk (Film 4) • Reservoir Dogs (C5) • Skyline (Film 4) Tuesday (8 October) • Backdraft (ITV 4) • Bear Island (C4) • The Chronicles of Riddick (ITV 2) • Date Night (Film 4) • Death Drums Along the River (Film 4) • Hearts in Atlantis (ITV 1)* Wednesday (9 October) • Crimson Tide(5*) • Ever After (E4) • Gambit (C4) • The Ghost (Film 4) • Hobo With a Shotgun (Film 4) • Payback (ITV 4) • The Sea Chase (Film 4) [2.55:1] • The Time Traveler's Wife (More 4) • Trust the Man (BBC 1) • Untraceable (5 USA) • Whip It (ITV 2) Thursday (10 October) • The Bone Collector (5*) • Gone (ITV 1)* • Lassie (Film 4) • Monsieur Lazhar (Film 4) • Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation (More 4) • Planet of the Apes (Movie Mix) • Plunkett & Macleane (ITV 4) • The Secret Life of Bees (Film 4) • Solaris (Movie Mix) • Taken (Film 4) Friday (11 October) • American Graffiti (Film 4) • Away We Go (C4) • The Boat That Rocked (ITV 4) • The Chronicles of Riddick (ITV 2) • The DaVinci Code (5*) • The Graduate (ITV 3) • Journey to the Center of the Earth (More 4) • Peter Pan (CITV) • Pillow Talk (Film 4) • Piranha (C5) [3-D] • The Ugly Truth (More 4) • Vampires: Los Muertos (Movie Mix) |
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No surprises yesterday, except that 5* ran the same OAR print of CABIN FEVER that used to run on Film 4. Considering they've recently taken to running a cropped/reframed print of CREEP (also late of Film 4, etc.), this came as a bit of a welcome eye-opener.
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). There are very few 21st century equivalents of HOUSE OF WAX or FLESH FOR FRANKENSTEIN, that's fer sure...