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ITV didn't get where they are today by their management not being thick as pigshit.
With the introduction of a DOG last year, after 50-odd years without, you get the impression that the entire management board sit round the boardroom table wearing padded helmets and writing on the walls with crayon, with their feet, such is their decision-making skills. |
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I sat down to watch Licence to Kill, as it's one of my favs, and coupled with the dog, bad compression rates on Freeview and the aspect ratio issue, I just put the DVD on instead! Plus I expect ITV cut it up a bit as it was a 15 on at 4pm-ish.
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Yep a couple of edits for the splattery moments.
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I sat down to watch Licence to Kill, as it's one of my favs, and coupled with the dog, bad compression rates on Freeview and the aspect ratio issue, I just put the DVD on instead! Plus I expect ITV cut it up a bit as it was a 15 on at 4pm-ish.
It baffles me why they put it on at that time though, GoldenEye never gets a Sunday slot but LTK always seems to. |
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(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)
* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings). Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (10 - 16 May): Saturday (10 May) Backdraft (ITV 4) Battle of Britain (C5) Bolt (BBC 1) [3-D] [1.85:1] The Day the Earth Stood Still (C4) The Dilemma (E4) Earthquake (Film 4) The Eiger Sanction (ITV 1)* I, Robot (Movie Mix) Man on a Ledge (C4) Next (5 USA) Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (BBC 3) Premonition (Film 4) Proof (Movie Mix) Seven Pounds (Movie Mix) Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (ITV 2) St. Trinian's 2: The Legend of Fritton's Gold (Film 4) Telstar: The Joe Meek Story (BBC 2) Torpedo Run (C5) Wanted (Film 4) Sunday (11 May) 27 Dresses (Film 4) Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls (C5) "Crocodile" Dundee [Crocodile Dundee] (Film 4) "Crocodile" Dundee II (E4) Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (movies4men) Earth Girls Are Easy (Movie Mix) Ever After (C4) Expired (BBC 2) The Fighting Fist of Shangai Joe [Il mio nome θ Shangai Joe] (movies4men) How to Train Your Dragon (CBBC) [3-D] I Dreamed of Africa: A True Story (Movie Mix) The Iron Giant (ITV 2) The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (C5) License to Wed (ITV 2) Long John Silver (movies4men) [2.55:1] Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (BBC 3) Seabiscuit (ITV 3) Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (ITV 2) Tin Cup (ITV 4) U-571 (5 USA) Underworld: Evolution (C4) Zookeeper (ITV 2) Monday (12 May) Carry On Admiral (movies4men) Huge (Film 4) Keoma [Keoma il vendicatore] (movies4men) My Super Ex-Girlfriend (5*) The Prince and the Pauper (Film 4) Skyline (Film 4) Tuesday (13 May) 17 Again (E4) Caesar the Conqueror [Giulio Cesare: Il conquistatore delle Gallie] (movies4men) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (ITV 1) [IMAX DMR 3-D (partly)] License to Wed (ITV 2) Magnum Force (5 USA) Seven Pounds (Movie Mix) Spy Game (ITV 4) Starman (Movie Mix) Suicide Commandos [Commando suicida] (movies4men) Unknown (Film 4) Wednesday (14 May) 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (More 4) [2.55:1] Chaos (5*) "Crocodile" Dundee [Crocodile Dundee] (Film 4) Definitely, Maybe (More 4) Dragonfly (BBC 1) I Dreamed of Africa: A True Story (Movie Mix) Josh (C4) Men of Honor (Movie Mix) Nowhere Boy (Film 4) Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (5*) Tomorrow Never Dies (ITV 1)* X-Men (Film 4) Thursday (15 May) Dragonfly Squadron (movies4men) [3-D] [1.85:1] Firefox (ITV 4) Forty Guns (More 4) Killer Elite (5*) Mirrors (Film 4) Space Cowboys (ITV 4) To Hell and Back (5 USA) [2.55:1] Twilight (Film 4) X-Men: The Last Stand (Film 4) Friday (16 May) Along Came a Spider (More 4) The Dilemma (E4) Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (movies4men) Earthquake (Film 4) The Gauntlet (ITV 4) Lone Star (BBC 2) The Lost World (More 4) New Moon (Film 4) Scary Movie (Film 4) Seven Pounds (Movie Mix) The Thing (ITV 4) The Wings of the Dove (ITV 3) The World is Not Enough (ITV 1)* X-Men Origins: Wolverine (Film 4) |
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Did EXPIRED get the OAR treatment on BBC 2 last night, I wonder? Anyone see it?
Meanwhile, movies4men screened the alternate 1.37:1 version of LONG JOHN SILVER, filmed at the same time as its 'definitive' CinemaScope version. This happened a few times during the very early years of the scope revolution. |
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Did EXPIRED get the OAR treatment on BBC 2 last night, I wonder? Anyone see it?
Anyone know if Underworld: Awakening was OAR for its premiere, please? I missed it when it was on, but No.3 was cropped to 16:9. |
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Skyline tonight in a letterbox, why can't they show it full screen? Same with Blu Ray letterboxed.
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Skyline tonight in a letterbox, why can't they show it full screen? Same with Blu Ray letterboxed.
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Skyline tonight in a letterbox, why can't they show it full screen? Same with Blu Ray letterboxed.
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Skyline tonight in a letterbox, why can't they show it full screen? Same with Blu Ray letterboxed.
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I didn't last night, but I've still to get round to watching my Sept 2013 recording, which was definitely OAR..
KEOMA screened OAR on movies4men last night. It's nice that a channel such as this exists, showing a broad range of incredible old tat that other broadcasters wouldn't touch (and really SHOULD!). Two points, though: I know m4m isn't really aimed at the 'perfectionost' or 'movie buff' demographic, but I'd still prefer films in their original language with subtitles. But if dubbed stuff is the way they're going, I'm surprised and disappointed that they don't show kung fu movies from the 70's and 80's. Those movies are a natural fit for such a channel... |
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Movies4Men, always use to show martial arts films up until about 2 years ago, then Sony bought a chunk of the channel so it could use the transponder space for its Sony TV and Sony Movies service.
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Speaking of M4M, Somebody Killed Her Husband (1978) a long forgotten Farrah Fawcett vehicle is being shown in 2:35:1.
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Speaking of M4M, Somebody Killed Her Husband (1978) a long forgotten Farrah Fawcett vehicle is being shown in 2:35:1.
Elsewhere, SPY GAME and STARMAN were both screened OAR on their respective channels yesterday, while CAESAR THE CONQUEROR was cropped to around 1.95:1, which would have looked virtually 'full-screen' due to overscan on most 16:9 displays. Oh, and a word out to DVDfever: I checked my recorded copy of UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION and it was indeed broadcast OAR. Enjoy!
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It was not stretchy-vision, bars top and bottom with the image filling the horizontal, the image was not distorted at all.
edit - IMDB sez Showing all 8 technical specifications Runtime 1 hr 37 min (97 min) Sound Mix Mono Color Color Aspect Ratio 2.35 : 1 Laboratory Movielab, USA Negative Format 35 mm Cinematographic Process Panavision (anamorphic) Printed Film Format 35 mm |
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Oh, and a word out to DVDfever: I checked my recorded copy of UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION and it was indeed broadcast OAR. Enjoy!
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It was not stretchy-vision, bars top and bottom with the image filling the horizontal, the image was not distorted at all.
edit - IMDB sez Showing all 8 technical specifications Runtime 1 hr 37 min (97 min) Sound Mix Mono Color Color Aspect Ratio 2.35 : 1 Laboratory Movielab, USA Negative Format 35 mm Cinematographic Process Panavision (anamorphic) Printed Film Format 35 mm ![]() To all and sundry, I'd advise against reliance on the IMDb for tech specs on anything. They get it right a lot of the time, but they get it wrong so often, it's best to double-check their tech info at other sources. |
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Nice one, ta. It's a pretty entertaining entry in the series. Good in 3D, too.
Nurse, the pedants are revolting... ![]()
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Rented THE WEE MAN the other day on Blu-ray, watched it last night. Good film, UTTERLY CRAP disc.
For a start, it was formatted at 1080i/50 rather than 1080p/24. The pic seemed OK, but 'good enough' just doesn't cut it in the HD arena - either full strength, or not at all. But worse still, the film - shot HD, framed for 2.39:1 - was cropped to 16:9. And not 'opened up' either, but cropped at either side from a scope print. I know that most filmmakers these days don't take advantage of the scope frame the way they did in the 1950's and 60's, but THIS looked cramped and cropped from start to finish. It looked bloody awful! And just to kick us all in the nuts, the 'Making of' feature contained copious clips from the film, all of them OAR. To say I was disgusted is an understatement. It's a pity we can't swear on these forums, because I'd like to cut loose and say what I really feel about this rip-off shiece of pit... (I know I only rented rather than bought the thing, but this was a major UK film which deserved better on home video. How can the filmmakers themselves be happy with this colossal travesty?!) |
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(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)
* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings). Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (17 - 23 May): Saturday (17 May) 633 Squadron (C5) Absolute Power (ITV 4) AVPR: Aliens vs. Predators: Requiem (Film 4) Dangerous Mission (BBC 2) [3-D] [1.75:1] Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (movies4men) Eclipse (Film 4) Enchanted (BBC 1) Firefox (ITV 4) Fistful of Dollars [Per un pugno di dollari] (5 USA) Glengarry Glen Ross (True Entertainment) Hanover Street (Movie Mix) The Iron Giant (ITV 2) Joe Kidd (5 USA) Kelly's Heroes (ITV 4) Lake Placid (Film 4) Men of Honor (Movie Mix) Mesrine: Killer Instinct [L'instinct de mort] (BBC 2) Monsters (Film 4) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (BBC 3) River of No Return (More 4) [2.55:1] Starman (Movie Mix) Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (ITV 2) Top Gun (C4) X: First Class (C4) Sunday (18 May) 17 Again (E4) 21 Jump Street (C5) Absolute Power (ITV 4) Around the World in 80 Days (C5) Bird on a Wire (ITV 3) Catch a Fire (BBC 2) CutThroat Island (C5) Dragonball: Evolution (Film 4) Edge of Darkness (BBC 2) Five Bloody Graves (movies4men) Hanover Street (Movie Mix) Just Wright (Film 4) Letters to Juliet (Film 4) Nanny McPhee (ITV 2) Nim's Island (5*) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (BBC 3) Salt (Film 4) Seabiscuit (ITV 3) Space Cowboys (ITV 4) Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope [Star Wars] (ITV 2) X2 (C5) Monday (19 May) Fast Five (Film 4) Four Fast Guns (movies4men) The Lady Vanishes (More 4) Starman (Movie Mix) Sunset (Movie Mix) X-Men (Film 4) Tuesday (20 May) 5 Days of War (movies4men) Big Momma's: Like Father, Like Son (5*) Code 7 Victim 5! [Victim Five] (movies4men) Duplicity (ITV 2) The General's Daughter (Film 4) Glengarry Glen Ross (True Entertainment) Hanover Street (Movie Mix) Jindabyne (BBC 1) The Last Wagon (Film 4) Romancing the Stone (E4) That's Life! (Movie Mix) Timecop (5 USA) To Hell and Back (5 USA) [2.55:1] Universal Soldier (5 USA) X-Men: The Last Stand (Film 4) Wednesday (21 May) Alfie (Film 4) Along Came a Spider (More 4) American Beauty (ITV 2) The Boston Strangler (movies4men) Entrapment (5*) The Gauntlet (ITV 4) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 (ITV 1) [3-D] Hot Fuzz (ITV 1)* Idlewild (C4) Knock Off (5 USA) The Lincoln Lawyer (Film 4) Lion's Den [Leonera] (Film 4) The Lost World (More 4) Machine-Gun Kelly (movies4men) Point Break (5*) Runaway (Movie Mix) Saanghuro [साँघुरो] (C4) Starman (Movie Mix) That's Life! (Movie Mix) Twilight (Film 4) Thursday (22 May) 5 Days of War (movies4men) Bad Education [La mala educaciσn] (Film 4) [scope and 1.85:1] Blind Date (Movie Mix) A Bullet for the General [El Chucho: Quien sabe?] (movies4men) Crooks in Cloisters (Film 4) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (ITV 1) [3-D] Kelly's Heroes (ITV 4) New Moon (Film 4) The Next Three Days (5*) The Pursuit of Happyness (5*) Sunset (Movie Mix) The Thing (ITV 4) When a Woman Ascends the Stairs [女が階段を上る時] (Film 4) X-Men Origins: Wolverine (Film 4) Friday (23 May) Big Momma's: Like Father, Like Son (5*) Bird on a Wire (ITV 3) Die Another Day (ITV 1)* Eclipse (Film 4) Extreme Measures (ITV 4) The Fifth Element [Le cinquiθme ιlιment] (5*) The Fighting Fist of Shangai Joe [Il mio nome θ Shangai Joe] (movies4men) Gun for a Coward (5 USA) Kingpin (C4) Law Abiding Citizen (Film 4) Mesrine: Public Enemy No. 1 [Mesrine: L'ennemi public n°1] (BBC 2) Monsters (Film 4) River of No Return (More 4) [2.55:1] Salt (Film 4) |
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Do you mean it has black bars at the top and bottom? That's intentional. They can't show it full screen because that would compromise the director and cinematographer's artistic vision.
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Dangerous Mission (BBC 2) [3-D] [1.75:1]
I'm willing to bet it will be shown in 4:3 and flat though. |
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That's what I mean, I have to adjust the TV setting to show it full on my screen without black bars top and bottom, same on some Bly rays.
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This particularly useful site went up, recently, documenting the changeover of the US major studios to widescreen in 1953. According to it, DANGEROUS MISSION is in an OAR of 1.66:1. (1.75:1 is what the IMDB says.)
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I'm willing to bet it will be shown in 4:3 and flat though.
![]() * The opening credits on BBC 2's 4:3 print simply bolster Furmanek's new info about a 1.66 - rather than 1.75 - ratio for DM, with plenty of headroom at the top and a smaller sliver at the bottom. Cropped to 1.78, it looks far too tight, but 1.66 would be ideal. This needs to be remastered for 3-D Blu-ray, pronto. |
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