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Channels Showing Full Widescreen Films
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alcockell
31-12-2010
Real giveaway is NOW... Giveaway is Carr's ankles. She sprained one shortly before they shot 16 going on 17 - just checked - they had Photoshopped out the dressing on the recent remaster.
Left ankle was always a little puffier...

Listed on IMDB's goof pages...
koantemplation
31-12-2010
Originally Posted by alcockell:
“Real giveaway is NOW... Giveaway is Carr's ankles. She sprained one shortly before they shot 16 going on 17 - just checked - they had Photoshopped out the dressing on the recent remaster.
Left ankle was always a little puffier...

Listed on IMDB's goof pages...”

So does that mean that the BBC have paid for a new print to show?
alcockell
31-12-2010
I'd suspect they have - or Fox withdrew old prints and resupplied...
koantemplation
31-12-2010
Originally Posted by alcockell:
“I'd suspect they have - or Fox withdrew old prints and resupplied...”

I hope the latter is the case.
Kevin1960
31-12-2010
Wall-E gets its premier on BBC1 tomorrow afternoon immediately followed by Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Both films were made in 2.35:1 I believe, so it'll be interesting to see if they're shown in the OAR. Also, the Indy film is a 12(A) so I wonder if it'll be cut at all.
Kevin1960
01-01-2011
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Lara Croft: Tomb Raider on BBC1 in 2.35:1 now. Not seen this before. How bad is it?

The sequel's on just after midnight tomorrow, too.”

In not so glorious 16:9 though.
DVDfever
01-01-2011
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“Does this mean they've brought a new print or was the 16:9 version they've shown before a pan and scan version of a 2.31:1 version?”

I understand it was in the correct ratio on BBC HD last time, whereas BBC1 showed the godawful 16:9 print that they had, which had long since seen better days.

Just played back my recording of Lara Croft: The Cradle of Life, and despite showing the first film in 2.35:1, the sequel was cropped to 16:9. I presume it was in 16:9 also on BBC1HD.
DVDfever
01-01-2011
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“In not so glorious 16:9 though.”

Oops, just saw this thread now goes to 14 pages, not 13
DVDfever
01-01-2011
Wall-E was in 2.35:1 earlier. It's repeated on BBC3 on Jan 6th at 7pm, and Jan 9th at 8.30pm.

Indiana Jones 4 on BBC1 now in 2.35:1 (no repeats scheduled) and Independence Day about to start on C4 in 2.35:1 (which it always is on there)
Kevin1960
01-01-2011
Well Indiana Jones is currently being broadcast in OAR. I might be wrong but I think this is the first time that BBC1 has ever transmitted a film in 2.35:1 during the peak evening viewing period.

Did anyone see if Wall-E was in 2.35:1 earlier?
DVDfever
01-01-2011
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“Well Indiana Jones is currently being broadcast in OAR. I might be wrong but I think this is the first time that BBC1 has ever transmitted a film in 2.35:1 during the peak evening viewing period.

Did anyone see if Wall-E was in 2.35:1 earlier?”

My belated post ended up being made one minute before yours, hehe

I think this is as late as a 2.35:1 film has got, eating into primetime. The real test will be Raiders on Weds, at 8.10pm, as that'll cross the whole 8-10 period. They bottled it with the drama, Toast, on Thursday, though.

Radio Times lists it at (W) and there's no point buying a new 16:9 print, so it's either the 2.35:1 print used on BBC HD before, or their 4:3 print which looked older than the film itself(!)
grahamcrowden
01-01-2011
Raiders was on BBC HD in 2.35:1 last time so I suspect the BBC1 screening will be also this week.
Its look like we've really turned a corner this Xmas with films being shown in their correct ratio.
Never have so many films been aired on BBC1 and ITV1 in 2.35:1 before , and in slots other than late night.

Long may it continue.
Shame ITV have not done it with 007 yet bar the credits
Jules 1
01-01-2011
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Wall-E was in 2.35:1 earlier. It's repeated on BBC3 on Jan 6th at 7pm, and Jan 9th at 8.30pm.

Indiana Jones 4 on BBC1 now in 2.35:1 (no repeats scheduled) and Independence Day about to start on C4 in 2.35:1 (which it always is on there)”

I started watching Indiana Jones 4 and was wondering if it was in the proper format, I certainly thought so, good to have it confirmed by this thread.
Libretio
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“The hills are alive with the black-bars of wiiiiidescreeeeen. Sound of Music in 2.20:1 on BBC1 right now.

IMDB lists 2.35:1 as the print struck for cinemas, since that's the conventional ratio, but 2.20:1 is how it was made, in Todd-AO.”

Try not to rely on IMDb for tech details of any kind, since they get it wrong on a fairly consistent basis. It's sad, because they also get it RIGHT on a consistent basis, but it's pot luck as to what you're going to get when you look up the details on an individual film.

As for THE SOUND OF MUSIC, it was broadcast correctly at 2.20:1, since the print was sourced from 70mm materials (the giveaway is the fact that it contained a credit for Todd-AO - 35mm prints do not). Earlier BBC screenings were sourced from 35mm elements, 2.35:1 ratio cropped to 1.78:1 (and, in the early days, 1.33:1).
PhilH36
02-01-2011
Five showing Towering Inferno in 4:3..........you'd think they'd realise this is one film that NEEDS to be shown in widescreen!
koantemplation
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“Five showing Towering Inferno in 4:3..........you'd think they'd realise this is one film that NEEDS to be shown in widescreen!”

Five have absolutely NO respect for the films or programmes they show.

They don't care if it is in the correct aspect ratio, have the news in the middle of it, a DOG, and IPP or a credit squeeze.

I hate when a fave film is shown on Five especially if it means it won't be shown on other channels for a while because of it.
koantemplation
02-01-2011
'The Incredible Hulk' was shown in 16:9 on ITV and ITV HD.
Legerdemain
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“'The Incredible Hulk' was shown in 16:9 on ITV and ITV HD.”

And in a daft bit of scheduling, Channel 4 have Iron Man on against it!!
koantemplation
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by Legerdemain:
“And in a daft bit of scheduling, Channel 4 have Iron Man on against it!!”

I was thinking that too.

But to be honest I suppose most people would have seen it by now on DVD and it is on C4+1 as well.

I watched 'The Incredible Hulk' on ITV HD which was first time HD viewing for me. Don't have C4 HD unfortunately.
PhilH36
02-01-2011
Now I think of it,Towering Inferno was on TCM a few weeks back,anyone catch that showing and/or know which print they used?
DVDfever
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“I was thinking that too.

But to be honest I suppose most people would have seen it by now on DVD and it is on C4+1 as well.

I watched 'The Incredible Hulk' on ITV HD which was first time HD viewing for me. Don't have C4 HD unfortunately.”

Saw it was cropped to 16:9 and didn't even give it a second thought once the opening titles (in 2.35:1) finished. Knew it wasn't going to stay that way, though, as all the 'Marvel' stuff beforehand was 16:9.

Someone posted on my FB page: "Can't believe they cut part of the main Hulk scene. Itv are so shit."

As for Iron Man, in true C4 style, it's on again in a few days - on Saturday at 6.40pm.
DarthFader
02-01-2011
Am I right in thinking that the BBC started to show the correct OAR on BBC One SD when the BBC One HD simulcast started? I got the feeling when it was shown on BBC HD, it was broadcast separately hence the change now?

PJ
grahamcrowden
02-01-2011
Originally Posted by DarthFader:
“Am I right in thinking that the BBC started to show the correct OAR on BBC One SD when the BBC One HD simulcast started? I got the feeling when it was shown on BBC HD, it was broadcast separately hence the change now?

PJ”

It does seem to be the advent of the HD versions of BBC1 and ITV1 that have jump started the widescreen revolution all over again - this time with the right ratios.

Its been very good for the last few weeks but I expect there will be more than a few films shown in the wrong ratios for quite some time to come until the channels get all new prints of their movies.

Not 100% sure but I'm guessing that all the 2.35:1 movies this Xmas are receiving their terrestrial premier or at least their terrestrial HD premier so all the films the channels have left to show that they've owned for a while are likely to carry on in the wrong ratio.

How long before the Radio Times and newspapers get complaints from the proles?
Kevin1960
02-01-2011
I must be missing something here; apart from one of the Hannibal films and Happy Feet, what else has been shown on ITV1 in 2:35.1 ?
Kevin1960
02-01-2011
Dreamgirls is currently on 4Music in AOR. Unfortunately, there are two very distracting DOGS on the screen - one on the top left hand side which says "4Music Hits Hollywood" and a bright pink one on the top right hand side which says "Dreamgirls All New!"
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