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Yes, like most channels that show mostly 1.85:1 content they will show the opening credits in 2.35:1 as text may be cut off if they don't, but once they are out of the way the image is zoomed in to fill the screen. Jersey Girl was on BBC 1 a few weeks ago and this happened, although they left it a bit later than the end of the opening credits before they actually zoomed in to 1.85:1.
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Yes, like most channels that show mostly 1.85:1 content they will show the opening credits in 2.35:1 as text may be cut off if they don't, but once they are out of the way the image is zoomed in to fill the screen. Jersey Girl was on BBC 1 a few weeks ago and this happened, although they left it a bit later than the end of the opening credits before they actually zoomed in to 1.85:1.
I forgot to check Seabiscuit shown earlier on BBC1. Anyone know about that one too, out of interest? On the credits side of things, ITV often windowbox all credits to around 14:9, but retaining their original ratio, and then put the image back to the edge of the screen (for 2.35:1 films this will also be the point where they crop it to 16:9 if they're going to do so). I think anyone dumb enough to use the 14:9 setting on their digibox gets everything they deserve. |
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I want the full image at the correct aspect ratio, ideally taking up as much screen as possible without cutting any picture off. I don't mind black bars at the top and bottom, or on the sides when watching 4:3 content on a wide screen
It's a circle that cannot be squared - one thing is traded off for the other. Personally, I'd rather have the full resolution (which means they'd have to broadcast with sides cropped, hopefully properly pan-scanned). I like HD better than half-HD but it's purely down to personal taste. There is no perfect solution to this problem. |
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One point that seems to have been overlooked in this discussion is that by letterboxing cinemascope films, broadcasters are lowering the vertical resolution (from 1080 to around 810 for 2.37:1 or thereabouts HD; from 576 to around 432 for SD).
It's a circle that cannot be squared - one thing is traded off for the other. Personally, I'd rather have the full resolution (which means they'd have to broadcast with sides cropped, hopefully properly pan-scanned). I like HD better than half-HD but it's purely down to personal taste. There is no perfect solution to this problem. |
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So you'd rather have a bastardised version of a film rather than what the director intended? There's no point in watching half a film in HD - you can't polish a turd. You clearly can't be a film lover.
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I forgot to check Seabiscuit shown earlier on BBC1. Anyone know about that one too, out of interest?.
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If you care about what the director intended, you wouldn't be watching it on TV (regardles of source, including DVD) since film is higher resolution and shows detail that's not present on video.
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16:9 on BBC HD
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So you'd rather have a bastardised version of a film rather than what the director intended? There's no point in watching half a film in HD - you can't polish a turd. You clearly can't be a film lover.
By the way, watching it on a 'tiny' TV screen at home at low resolution (compared to the original) is not what most directors of big budget films intended. It's not all about seeing right to the edges. |
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It's no so much stretched 4:3 on a 16:9 TV I hate - it's seeing a 16:9 picture squished into 4:3 I hate the most.
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It's not all about seeing right to the edges.
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Thanks. Makes me even more glad I haven't bothered getting an HD digibox if that's how they treat things.
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It's unbelievable that so many people still don't get the irreducibly simple fact that half the film is missing without 'black bars'. To listen to them whinge on, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the black bars are 'put there' purely 'for fun' on the part of the broadcasters.
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whats the point in "forcing" the nation to go out and buy a widescreen tv, and then filling half the screen space with black bars!!!????
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ITV1 HD just started with 2.35:1 for opening credits of Spy Who Loved Me then switched to noticebly less sharp 16:9
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If Living TV could show the 1982 abomination Curse Of The Pink Panther earlier today in 2.35:1, ITV have simply no excuse.
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Oddly enough, I have witnessed some other films on BBC HD as being 2.35:1 (although I only got Freeview HD in July) - Crimson Tide was one.
Either way, if I was a BBC HD viewer I'd be pissed off at being short changed. |
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ITV1 HD just started with 2.35:1 for opening credits of Spy Who Loved Me then switched to noticebly less sharp 16:9
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If they'd done it properly, it would then have shown more detail (in the main action areas) to the viewer. There's no accounting for technical incompetence.
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I think anyone dumb enough to use the 14:9 setting on their digibox gets everything they deserve.
The options are 4:3 or 16:9. Quote:
So you'd rather have a bastardised version of a film rather than what the director intended? There's no point in watching half a film in HD - you can't polish a turd. You clearly can't be a film lover.
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It's no so much stretched 4:3 on a 16:9 TV I hate - it's seeing a 16:9 picture squished into 4:3 I hate the most.
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So you'd rather have a bastardised version of a film rather than what the director intended? There's no point in watching half a film in HD - you can't polish a turd. You clearly can't be a film lover.
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A practice thats not happened for many years except on tv displays owned by people unable to set up their equipment properly
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So you'd rather have a bastardised version of a film rather than what the director intended? There's no point in watching half a film in HD - you can't polish a turd. You clearly can't be a film lover.
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I think some of us are getting a leeeetle bit elitist now. Not exactly something that I'd normally associate with watching a film on the small screen.
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There are no digiboxes with a 14:9 setting.
The options are 4:3 or 16:9. Quote:
I think some of us are getting a leeeetle bit elitist now. Not exactly something that I'd normally associate with watching a film on the small screen.
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Actually it still happens on the CBS (formerly Zone) channels, and on Cinemoi.
Channels do not broadcast 16:9 material intentionally squashed into a 4:3 box like they used to when showing the widescreen credits of a film for example |
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