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Libretio
22-10-2011
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Have they listened, finally?”

Looks like it.
tin
22-10-2011
Might be a bit OT but what are more4 doing this evening? The Untouchables is in what looks to be almost the original aspect, but with (at least) the top and bottom scanlines wrapped over (sort of like an old CRT with field collapse) and the bottom leg of the 4 from the more 4 DOG visible in the top corner. Proper weird, and technically crap which I guess is the point of this thread.
Libretio
23-10-2011
Originally Posted by tin:
“Might be a bit OT but what are more4 doing this evening? The Untouchables is in what looks to be almost the original aspect, but with (at least) the top and bottom scanlines wrapped over (sort of like an old CRT with field collapse) and the bottom leg of the 4 from the more 4 DOG visible in the top corner. Proper weird, and technically crap which I guess is the point of this thread.”

I didn't check into THE UNTOUCHABLES because I assumed it would be shown OAR, as always. But I'm not entirely sure what you're describing. The bottom of the More 4 dog is almost always visible within the 2.35:1 frame. Could you possibly clarify? Ta very glad.
tin
24-10-2011
Perhaps that's just what it was. 2.35:1 broadcast 16:9 with the dog in the same place. They should turn it off though no?
DVDfever
24-10-2011
Originally Posted by tin:
“Perhaps that's just what it was. 2.35:1 broadcast 16:9 with the dog in the same place. They should turn it off though no?”

More4 and E4 never do.
mwardy
25-10-2011
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“More4 and E4 never do.”

No, they never do. I've noticed an improvement on More4 though. The DOG used to change according to the background so it was always visible, i.e. it was white against a black background and vice versa. Now it's black all the time, so it disappears on a black background. I've always found it's most obtrusive when the picture is dark (which is why BBC FOUR drama is now a dead loss for me) so it's considerably better than it was.

Presumably somebody is listening to complaints. Just a bit more to go now and it will be perfect!
pad_ehh
25-10-2011
E4's DOG is too far in from the left still, it would be nice if they moved it right into the corner like for More 4 and made it the same colour. Don't get me started on 4 Music's DOG...!
VirginMediaPhil
25-10-2011
Certainly E4 HD's DOG should be smaller and more to the left, it's too big for an HD channel.

The E4 DOG has always been in the very left corner, no point in complaining about that.
Libretio
28-10-2011
2.35:1 movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (29 October - 4 November):


Saturday (29 October)

• 3:10 TO YUMA (5 USA)
• AIR AMERICA (ITV 3)
• BRANNIGAN (C5)
• THE BRAVADOS (Film 4)
• BYE BYE BIRDIE (BBC 2)
• CONSTANTINE (ITV 1)
• CONTACT (5 USA)
• FISTFUL OF DOLLARS [Per un Pugno di Dollari] (C5)
• FRIDAY THE 13th (C4)
• THE GHOSTS OF GIRLFRIENDS PAST (C4)
• GUN FOR A COWARD (C5)
• HALLOWEEN (BBC 2)
• HITMAN (Film 4)
• LESBIAN VAMPIRE KILLERS (BBC 3)
• MISSION TO MARS (5 USA)
• MOONRAKER (ITV 4)
• PREMONITION (More 4)
• RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II (ITV 4)
• RAMBO III (ITV 4)
• RUSH HOUR 3 (Film 4)
• STORMBREAKER (Film 4)
• TAXI (Film 4)
• THE THIEF LORD (ITV 2)
• THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES OR HOW I FLEW FROM LONDON TO PARIS IN 25 HOURS 11 MINUTES (Film 4) [Todd-AO (2.21:1)]
• ZOOLANDER (E4)


Sunday (30 October)

• THE 51st STATE (Film 4)
• CUTTHROAT ISLAND (Film 4)
• DAY OF THE EVIL GUN (Film 4)
• HOSTAGE (Film 4)
• KISS OF THE DRAGON (C5)
• MISS POTTER (BBC 2)
• THE NEGOTIATOR (Film 4)
• NIM'S ISLAND (BBC 2)
• THE ODESSA FILE (5 USA)
• SMART PEOPLE (BBC 1)
• UNFORGIVEN (ITV 4)
• X-MEN (E4)


Monday (Halloween)

• BEOWULF (5*) [3-D]
• HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION (BBC 2)
• IN HER SHOES (Film 4)
• KING KONG (ITV 2)
• RAMBO III (ITV 4)
• STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (Film 4)


Tuesday (1 November)

• DISTRICT 13: ULTIMATUM [Banlieue 13: Ultimatum] (Film 4)
• FLATLINERS (C5)
• MONSTER-IN-LAW (Film 4)
• NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Film 4)
• TANGO & CASH (ITV 4)
• UNDISPUTED (5 USA)


Wednesday (2 November)

• 300 (5 USA)
• FANTASTIC FOUR (E4)
• LESBIAN VAMPIRE KILLERS (BBC 3)
• PAYBACK (ITV 2)
• RUSH HOUR 3 (Film 4)
• SADDLE THE WIND (More 4)
• THE TALL MEN (Film 4) [CinemaScope (2.55:1)]
• UNFORGIVEN (ITV 4)


Thursday (3 November)

• BONNEVILLE (5 USA)
• CUTTHROAT ISLAND (Film 4)
• HOSTAGE (Film 4)
• ICE STATION ZEBRA (Film 4) [Super Panavision 70 (2.21:1)]
• THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND (Film 4)
• NONE BUT THE BRAVE (More 4)
• ZULU (Film 4) [Super Technirama 70 (2.21:1)]


Friday (4 November)

• BEOWULF (5*) [3-D]
• THE BRAVADOS (Film 4)
• FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (ITV 4)
• THE LONGEST YARD (5 USA)
• THE NEGOTIATOR (Film 4)
• RUMBLE IN THE BRONX [紅番區] (BBC 1)
• THE THIN RED LINE (More 4)
Dar W
28-10-2011
Space Cowboys on ITV 4 at the mo is showing in it's original ratio.Be good if Moonraker after gets the same treatment but I very much doubt it will
mike65
28-10-2011
It didn't, why though?
Libretio
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Dar W:
“Space Cowboys on ITV 4 at the mo is showing in it's original ratio.Be good if Moonraker after gets the same treatment but I very much doubt it will”

They've been running the same James Bond prints for so long, I'm surprised the tape hasn't snapped! Who's watching the damned things, anyways?

More OAR goodness on other channels this morning - BYE BYE BIRDIE on BBC 2, and THE THIEF LORD on ITV 2. Good times.
Libretio
29-10-2011
By the way, Dar, are you sure it was SPACE COWBOYS on ITV 4 this morning and not MISSION TO MARS? It's the latter title that was scheduled for broadcast on that channel today, and has been screened OAR a number of times before.

Easy to see how they might get confused, though.
Dar W
29-10-2011
It was definately Space Cowboys,seen both before and it was on last night,don't know what was on this morning as working.
Braindead2011
30-10-2011
New to this forum.

Does anybody know why Channel Four show their films squeezed on freeview, no matter how hard I fiddle about with the DVR and TV settings I can't get a decent letterbox image for films shot in cinemascope but everything seems fine on Channel 4 plus one

Does anybody know if Movies4Men actually show their films in the correct OAR or are they over scanned full screen versions matted to fit a 16:9 broadcast.
Libretio
30-10-2011
Originally Posted by Braindead2011:
“New to this forum.”

Welcome! Mind you, your username is a bit of a worry...

Originally Posted by Braindead2011:
“Does anybody know why Channel Four show their films squeezed on freeview, no matter how hard I fiddle about with the DVR and TV settings I can't get a decent letterbox image for films shot in cinemascope but everything seems fine on Channel 4 plus one.”

I'm assuming you're viewing on a 16:9 screen? If so, I can only suggest that if every other channel (including C4 +1) displays 'scope movies correctly (that's to say, letterboxed within the 16:9 frame), then there MUST be a fault with your DVR.

I can only ask: Are you absolutely certain all your equipment is set to '16:9' (or 'full' or the nearest equivalent)?
Libretio
30-10-2011
As usual at this time of the year, the BBC insisted on screening their pathetically cropped version of HALLOWEEN. If there's one film that really needs to be seen at its full Panavision dimensions, it's this one.

Pity the poor fools who 'saw' it for the first time on BBC 2 last night and thought they'd gotten The Real Deal...
DVDfever
30-10-2011
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“As usual at this time of the year, the BBC insisted on screening their pathetically cropped version of HALLOWEEN. If there's one film that really needs to be seen at its full Panavision dimensions, it's this one.

Pity the poor fools who 'saw' it for the first time on BBC 2 last night and thought they'd gotten The Real Deal...”

Agreed. And on the Panavision side of things, presuming the series is shown the same way as the trailers, Top Boy (Mon-Thurs, C4, 10pm), will be in 2.35:1 Panavision.
Libretio
31-10-2011
By the way, wasn't LESBIAN VAMPIRE KILLERS screened OAR the other night. I caught the opening credits but nothing afterwards. Could anyone out there confirm one way or t'other?
Dar W
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“By the way, wasn't LESBIAN VAMPIRE KILLERS screened OAR the other night. I caught the opening credits but nothing afterwards. Could anyone out there confirm one way or t'other?”

It was,I turned over 20 mins in and kicked myself for missing it but will watch the Wednesday night repeat
Libretio
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by Dar W:
“It was,I turned over 20 mins in and kicked myself for missing it but will watch the Wednesday night repeat”

Ta for that confirmation.

Kicked yourself for missing it, eh? Wouldn't have anything to do with the word 'Lesbian' in the title, would it?...
pad_ehh
31-10-2011
I see VIVA broadcast Blade in 2.35:1 the other night.
Libretio
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Paddy C:
“I see VIVA broadcast Blade in 2.35:1 the other night.”

Now that they're broadcasting in 16:9, could you confirm it was a 'proper' 16:9 version, with the 2.39:1 image letterboxed within the 1.78:1 frame? Ta.

True to the trailers, the first episode of TOP BOY went out framed at 2.35:1 on C4 last night. Online reports confirm it was shot with HD cameras. It will probably be edited into a feature-length version for theatrical release in non-domestic markets, which isn't unusual for one-off, multi-episode TV dramas these days (recent French film CARLOS developed from the very same TV background, shooting 2-perf 35mm for TV and theatrical release).
Libretio
02-11-2011
Following on from my recent post concerning UK DVD versions of SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE and THE WARRIOR'S PATH, both from Momentum, the same company has been at it again:

I rented New Zealand horror THE DEVIL'S ROCK yesterday, and it was cropped from 2.39:1 to 1.78:1, despite the fact the film is clearly framed at 2.39:1 on the cameras which we see being employed on-set during the accompanying 'Making of' documentary. I'm beginning to wonder if Momentum has a policy of supplying cropped editions of such films wherever possible, and if there's an e-mail contact address, I'll be writing to them forthwith to ask about this very thing. Watch this space.
DVDfever
02-11-2011
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“Now that they're broadcasting in 16:9, could you confirm it was a 'proper' 16:9 version, with the 2.39:1 image letterboxed within the 1.78:1 frame? Ta.

True to the trailers, the first episode of TOP BOY went out framed at 2.35:1 on C4 last night. Online reports confirm it was shot with HD cameras. It will probably be edited into a feature-length version for theatrical release in non-domestic markets, which isn't unusual for one-off, multi-episode TV dramas these days (recent French film CARLOS developed from the very same TV background, shooting 2-perf 35mm for TV and theatrical release).”

I've been watching it, but it does have a lot that could be cut out to get to the meat of the story so a film of around 2hrs would be easy enough to put together.
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